What does "expire" mean?

shaun51422

I am considering the Vader Zeta on his leader. When damage over time "expires", does that mean naturally over time or do they come back if cleared through Culling Blade? What about if an opponent clears them with an ability?
Thanks for any feedback

TVF

I believe it's all of the above.

Weirdornothology

In this regard it refers to when a buff or debuff stops working on the affected character/s.

TVF is correct in that this applies to each of the interactions tou mentioned.

Gifafi

yeah it's just "goes away somehow" so dipel, culling, time, etc

shaun51422

Thanks all, I appreciate it

Ben_Skywalker

So how does that work with Padmes dispel/protection up? Bc they can’t be debugged when they have protection up

Ben_Skywalker

*debuffed

Gifafi

like if the padme team had the dots from vader (lead) on them already, then padme used Cunning plan to dispel the dots then they got the prot up from cunning plan? I would think they couldn't be debuffed by a new debuff while they had the prot up, but the dots would reappear bc of vader's lead. But I don't know this for sure.

his lead says enemies "immediately regain" the dots but her lead says "resist all debuffs" with prot up. I haven't used vader lead since rancor/wampanader days so not sure. Maybe @Kyno knows?

Ultra

shaun51422 wrote: »

I am considering the Vader Zeta on his leader. When damage over time "expires", does that mean naturally over time or do they come back if cleared through Culling Blade? What about if an opponent clears them with an ability?
Thanks for any feedback

Expired is the same as dispel but its an old terminology that they no longer use. Its all of the above:

1. Damage over Time runs its turn limit (1 turn, 2 turns, 3 turns, 4 turns, etc.)
2. Someone cleanses it and it reapplies (Rex's Form Up, Chirrut's special)
3. Dispelled through Culling Blade, Geo Spy's special

Only time it doesn't reapply if someone is immune to Damage over Time such as Kylo, and Rey in Ultimate Stance, and General Skywalker in Cover.

Gifafi

do you know the answer to the padme q @Ultra ?

Ultra

No I don't

But since Damage over time is reapplied through Rex's tenacity up, it should reapply after Padme's cleanse since protection up resists debuffs (like tenacity up) not makes them immune to them

but i could be wrong

Deathbringer59

I just tested this, wish my video would upload but it the DoT still re-applies after the cleanse

Metasly

In the swgoh ability mechanic page (https://swgoh.gg/characters/darth-vader/ability/inspiring-through-fear) the apply effect is marked as "Effect is unresistable"

davidwanqwerty

expire means whenever it stops, and the vader ability pretty much means that once you get damage over time on an enemy, it will never run out(but does go down to 2 when it would've ended)