Hahahaha this is a joke......galactic trashhhhh. I am so glad I started MSF 2 months ago...I knew they will make something like this only for whales. Joke of a game. Its not even pay to win game...it is pay to play and not to win unless you pay some more for crap rewards hahaha. Jokeeee
I restarted with msf as well.
you really think it is better ?
the only thing you do is battling the same teams over and over again, even in raid you only fight normal and existing teams. super boring and unimaginative
So some simple feedback scale of 1 to 10 with comments
Content:
6 - There is potential here. New global effects and fraction specific effect, but no cut scenes, no new game play mod. This is just different effects on existing battles.
Rewards:
2 - Decent rewards for the top feat. Ever level reward without feats is a joke. The mods just remind me I am hitting the inventory cap. The lower level feat gear reward is laughable. No player needs these pieces.
As an alternative for Sandbox
4 - The team buffs makes using any team less effective but the global effect really changes using any team that is not meta and does not have cleanse.
Game play:
5 - Very similar to other mods, some new changes and challenges, like the effects and having a summoned enemy unit. Nothing very new. I like a challenge,once, but then it is not something I will play for 7 days.
Potential:
8 - This could be much better. The rewards, the effects, adding cut scenes, etc., all could make this much better. There is a lot of potential to make small changes to what is built. I hope we see changes like the shift from GA to GAC. Please CG do not leave this as it is.
99% of the community is upset with the delivery of Galactic Challenges - check Reddit. Granted, we understand it's a platform to roll out more content and are hopeful things will get better, but there are many many reasons why it has resulted in extremely negative feedback.
Length: 2-7 days is extremely too long for something that took 10-20 minutes to beat what tiers I could with no incentive to return.
Rewards: Tying the rewards to feats is cool. However, the feats use gear locks to incentivize players to gear up parts of their roster for meager rewards. Take the gear locks out. Additionally, the rewards in the other feats are very very poor - I have 1000s of these pieces of gear. How about some stun cuffs or stun guns or carbantis or nubian security scanners or something that is actually a bottleneck? Or an actual good amount of crystals or credits or something... And if the event is running this long, at least make the rewards replayable for the amount that there are. Overall, the rewards are very, very poor for this long of an event. I felt like I lost something instead of gaining anything.
Fun: Assault battles is more fun by many miles (and has better rewards). Probably because of the waves and the abilities and difficulty. This content is just like any other hard battle with changed elements. One and Done.
Replayability: I mean we could replay it, but there is no purpose to.
Feats: The feats are fine, but adding some flare/creativity would be nice. "Use this ability so many times"
Modifiers: This is probably the most different part of the event than anything else which is good, but it doesn't really save the game mode from being boring.
I mean we want to be on your side CG and are hopeful that this thing becomes positive. But it feels like we were promised something that was supposed to be exciting and instead, we were given whatever you had in your pocket at the time - a half eaten lollipop, some gum wrappers, and some lint.
"Our main goal for this feature is to provide more activities for players each day. We hear players asking for more ways to use their growing roster of units and want more than just new events that you can master quickly or sim."
In what way do these challenges accomplish the main goal as set out in the road ahead?
Can't believe I held out hope it would be more than Assault Battles 2.0.
It's a start. Still not able to beat my recommended level, but I probably just need to get good. The lack of rewards takes out the replayability, so nothing beyond a marquee event, imho. 7 days is way too long for the events and for the rewards being only a 1 time thing.
Like a sandbox mode you might say. They've more or less constantly shot that idea down.
The problem with looking at it as a "sandbox mode" is that it doesn't actually resemble any of the "real" teams you'd face. Nobody places Poggle on a GG team. So even from the "sandbox" mode angle, it doesn't work.
Once again, CG had every opportunity to make this a fun event, but managed to shoot themselves in the foot with overly-restrictive game play (for the rewards) and unrealistic enemy team comps.
I know it has been a long-running joke that the developers don't play their own game, but I'm beginning to think that it's certainly possible considering how badly they continually miss the mark on what should be (and easily could have been) very easy "wins".
Honestly, all they had to do to get this one right was one of about 4 different things - and any ONE of them probably would have made people happy:
1) Slightly better rewards
2) Drop the relic-wall for the later tiers
3) Make it possible to actually "utilize more of our roster in meaningful and fun ways."
4) Make the enemy teams "realistic" and require strategy.
But instead, we got "Assualt Battles light"...with more restrictions. And weaker rewards.
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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@AgentSmith I am the same. I like the basic Idea of it, giving us weekly challenges to complete. I completed tiers 1-6 using a variety of my teams and ignoring the feats i thought it had potential. I also agree that the rewards are worse than the game's RNG. However If I remember the GAC rewards were once terrible, and they fixed them not too long later after listening to feedback. They also said they would change things, so lets deploy the reviews and hopefully they improve the rewarding system.
I have zero incentive to relic or level any faction up with the current rewards given out. Like, I’m not going to spend months, crystals, relic material, and gear to relic 5 bounty hunters so I can get garbage rewards.
On a side note, is this a WORLDS FIRST time the entire forums agreed on something? Lol
Also, if the event remains a 1 week event, the rewards should not be 3 stun guns, 5 carbantis. 15+ should be the minimum.
Another idea, what about a reward that gives you 100% drop rate on your next 5 sims? Or allows you to increase the hard mode cap to 8 battles/refresh for 24 hours?
Rewards need a tune-up from tier 1-7. Example. At around tier 4 you should start giving gear like mk 5 stun guns. 5 should be giving the same but more pieces. 6 should be gear 12 pieces. 7 should be tip of the spear stuff like relic 4-7 materials. B/C ALL of the above is needed this makes emdgame players play those lower tiers.
Stop gated rewards. If i beat the tier with 5 sith it shouldn't matter what relic they have.
Add some new backgrounds.
Gameplay was solid 👌 I really like the sandstorm stuff. Adds a little bit of a rush.
@kyno they posted a video saying that the rewards are meaningful. Now even if they change things, this video is about what we have now, what they just released.
So they are saying that these rewards are meaningful which is completely absurd
GAC rewards were adjusted for cadence and the rewards are still awful which ever way you slice it. If they had increased cadence without adjusting rewards maybe it would have been ok.
In a less grumpy way then he said it ^ Your post will just get merged in to the big discussion either way. But atleast you're providing your feedback and contributing
I have zero incentive to relic or level any faction up with the current rewards given out. Like, I’m not going to spend months, crystals, relic material, and gear to relic 5 bounty hunters so I can get garbage rewards.
On a side note, is this a WORLDS FIRST time the entire forums agreed on something? Lol
But surely you must have - or will be - putting relics on faction-based squads for others areas of the game, anyway?
Nobody in their right mind would start relicing up Sith for this one, based on the rewards but plenty of people had Vader, Malak, Nasty etc at relics anyway.
I have zero incentive to relic or level any faction up with the current rewards given out. Like, I’m not going to spend months, crystals, relic material, and gear to relic 5 bounty hunters so I can get garbage rewards.
On a side note, is this a WORLDS FIRST time the entire forums agreed on something? Lol
But surely you must have - or will be - putting relics on faction-based squads for others areas of the game, anyway?
Nobody in their right mind would start relicing up Sith for this one, based on the rewards but plenty of people had Vader, Malak, Nasty etc at relics anyway.
Of course yes. But let’s say when the bounty hunters event comes. Do I work to relic 5 Boba Fett and Dengar and Jango and IG-88? (dengar and 88 in my case as they’re already 7*) or do I continue to work on my JKR team (need approx 200 stun guns) for LS Geo Tb?
kyno they posted a video saying that the rewards are meaningful. Now even if they change things, this video is about what we have now, what they just released.
So they are saying that these rewards are meaningful which is completely absurd
2 questions, 1 - Is it, because that video seems to be about Galactic Challenges, not specifically the exhibition.
2 - why does that matter, they stated this is an exhibition to gain feedback. why not treat it as such and move on so we can see what the final outcome is.
to me it seem the best course of action it to not get worked up right now, and just provide constructive feedback. but thats just me, I dont really try to increase my own stress over things that I like. I use things I like to reduce my stress.
Reading TopHat's post about GC took longer than completing the event. I'm astonished that it took CG this long to develop an individual battle and then just scaled up the difficulty and spinned it as "tiers". I'd love to get the developers perspective on if this is worthwhile content if they were on our side of the fence".
I have zero incentive to relic or level any faction up with the current rewards given out. Like, I’m not going to spend months, crystals, relic material, and gear to relic 5 bounty hunters so I can get garbage rewards.
On a side note, is this a WORLDS FIRST time the entire forums agreed on something? Lol
But surely you must have - or will be - putting relics on faction-based squads for others areas of the game, anyway?
Nobody in their right mind would start relicing up Sith for this one, based on the rewards but plenty of people had Vader, Malak, Nasty etc at relics anyway.
Of course yes. But let’s say when the bounty hunters event comes. Do I work to relic 5 Boba Fett and Dengar and Jango and IG-88? (dengar and 88 in my case as they’re already 7*) or do I continue to work on my JKR team (need approx 200 stun guns) for LS Geo Tb?
In my view, no. I was implying this mode is perhaps a bit of a bonus for those that already have the relevant squads reliced. But to take your hypothetical BH event, good grief no!
I have zero incentive to relic or level any faction up with the current rewards given out. Like, I’m not going to spend months, crystals, relic material, and gear to relic 5 bounty hunters so I can get garbage rewards.
On a side note, is this a WORLDS FIRST time the entire forums agreed on something? Lol
But surely you must have - or will be - putting relics on faction-based squads for others areas of the game, anyway?
Nobody in their right mind would start relicing up Sith for this one, based on the rewards but plenty of people had Vader, Malak, Nasty etc at relics anyway.
Of course yes. But let’s say when the bounty hunters event comes. Do I work to relic 5 Boba Fett and Dengar and Jango and IG-88? (dengar and 88 in my case as they’re already 7*) or do I continue to work on my JKR team (need approx 200 stun guns) for LS Geo Tb?
In my view, no. I was implying this mode is perhaps a bit of a bonus for those that already have the relevant squads reliced. But to take your hypothetical BH event, good grief no!
Dengar needs 200 carbanti to go from gear 9->10. In setting up a go fund me so people can donate. Can you help me out pls
kyno they posted a video saying that the rewards are meaningful. Now even if they change things, this video is about what we have now, what they just released.
So they are saying that these rewards are meaningful which is completely absurd
2 questions, 1 - Is it, because that video seems to be about Galactic Challenges, not specifically the exhibition.
2 - why does that matter, they stated this is an exhibition to gain feedback. why not treat it as such and move on so we can see what the final outcome is.
to me it seem the best course of action it to not get worked up right now, and just provide constructive feedback. but thats just me, I dont really try to increase my own stress over things that I like. I use things I like to reduce my stress.
@Kyno
I think for many the concern is based on the fact that we have played this game long enough to know that the rewards aren't going to increase significantly between the "exhibition" and the "real thing". CG uses "exhibition" to make sure the mechanics are working as intended and the event runs smoothly - not to give out weak rewards only to dramatically increase them later. If anything, history suggests that the reward structure does, indeed change - just not in a way any player would prefer (please see Sith raid rewards post "modification" for examples).
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In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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Has *anyone* been able to beat levels 5 and up? I have a Bounty Hunter Squad, all Relic 7 that kills it in Squad Arena - and everywhere else - but here, they all get killed without even getting a shot in..
Also, enemies die randomly, without even hitting them..
There’s something very wrong in the game mechanics here...
Yes, many can even get Flawless Victory on the final tier - I did (GL Rey, GK, Holdo, GSky and JKR).
Then I saw the rewards....and literally laughed out loud for how weak they were on T7.
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
So, if you win with 4 toons relic 5 and 1 gear 12, no reward. In a game where many already passed relic 5, we cannot use many of our toons and need to stop exactly at relic 5 for some lame reward.
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I restarted with msf as well.
you really think it is better ?
the only thing you do is battling the same teams over and over again, even in raid you only fight normal and existing teams. super boring and unimaginative
Content:
6 - There is potential here. New global effects and fraction specific effect, but no cut scenes, no new game play mod. This is just different effects on existing battles.
Rewards:
2 - Decent rewards for the top feat. Ever level reward without feats is a joke. The mods just remind me I am hitting the inventory cap. The lower level feat gear reward is laughable. No player needs these pieces.
As an alternative for Sandbox
4 - The team buffs makes using any team less effective but the global effect really changes using any team that is not meta and does not have cleanse.
Game play:
5 - Very similar to other mods, some new changes and challenges, like the effects and having a summoned enemy unit. Nothing very new. I like a challenge,once, but then it is not something I will play for 7 days.
Potential:
8 - This could be much better. The rewards, the effects, adding cut scenes, etc., all could make this much better. There is a lot of potential to make small changes to what is built. I hope we see changes like the shift from GA to GAC. Please CG do not leave this as it is.
99% of the community is upset with the delivery of Galactic Challenges - check Reddit. Granted, we understand it's a platform to roll out more content and are hopeful things will get better, but there are many many reasons why it has resulted in extremely negative feedback.
Length: 2-7 days is extremely too long for something that took 10-20 minutes to beat what tiers I could with no incentive to return.
Rewards: Tying the rewards to feats is cool. However, the feats use gear locks to incentivize players to gear up parts of their roster for meager rewards. Take the gear locks out. Additionally, the rewards in the other feats are very very poor - I have 1000s of these pieces of gear. How about some stun cuffs or stun guns or carbantis or nubian security scanners or something that is actually a bottleneck? Or an actual good amount of crystals or credits or something... And if the event is running this long, at least make the rewards replayable for the amount that there are. Overall, the rewards are very, very poor for this long of an event. I felt like I lost something instead of gaining anything.
Fun: Assault battles is more fun by many miles (and has better rewards). Probably because of the waves and the abilities and difficulty. This content is just like any other hard battle with changed elements. One and Done.
Replayability: I mean we could replay it, but there is no purpose to.
Feats: The feats are fine, but adding some flare/creativity would be nice. "Use this ability so many times"
Modifiers: This is probably the most different part of the event than anything else which is good, but it doesn't really save the game mode from being boring.
I mean we want to be on your side CG and are hopeful that this thing becomes positive. But it feels like we were promised something that was supposed to be exciting and instead, we were given whatever you had in your pocket at the time - a half eaten lollipop, some gum wrappers, and some lint.
A hopeful player,
MasterKestis
In what way do these challenges accomplish the main goal as set out in the road ahead?
Can't believe I held out hope it would be more than Assault Battles 2.0.
The problem with looking at it as a "sandbox mode" is that it doesn't actually resemble any of the "real" teams you'd face. Nobody places Poggle on a GG team. So even from the "sandbox" mode angle, it doesn't work.
Once again, CG had every opportunity to make this a fun event, but managed to shoot themselves in the foot with overly-restrictive game play (for the rewards) and unrealistic enemy team comps.
I know it has been a long-running joke that the developers don't play their own game, but I'm beginning to think that it's certainly possible considering how badly they continually miss the mark on what should be (and easily could have been) very easy "wins".
Honestly, all they had to do to get this one right was one of about 4 different things - and any ONE of them probably would have made people happy:
1) Slightly better rewards
2) Drop the relic-wall for the later tiers
3) Make it possible to actually "utilize more of our roster in meaningful and fun ways."
4) Make the enemy teams "realistic" and require strategy.
But instead, we got "Assualt Battles light"...with more restrictions. And weaker rewards.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
This is not THE sandbox mode you’re looking for.
On a side note, is this a WORLDS FIRST time the entire forums agreed on something? Lol
Another idea, what about a reward that gives you 100% drop rate on your next 5 sims? Or allows you to increase the hard mode cap to 8 battles/refresh for 24 hours?
Stop gated rewards. If i beat the tier with 5 sith it shouldn't matter what relic they have.
Add some new backgrounds.
Gameplay was solid 👌 I really like the sandstorm stuff. Adds a little bit of a rush.
So they are saying that these rewards are meaningful which is completely absurd
But surely you must have - or will be - putting relics on faction-based squads for others areas of the game, anyway?
Nobody in their right mind would start relicing up Sith for this one, based on the rewards but plenty of people had Vader, Malak, Nasty etc at relics anyway.
Of course yes. But let’s say when the bounty hunters event comes. Do I work to relic 5 Boba Fett and Dengar and Jango and IG-88? (dengar and 88 in my case as they’re already 7*) or do I continue to work on my JKR team (need approx 200 stun guns) for LS Geo Tb?
2 questions, 1 - Is it, because that video seems to be about Galactic Challenges, not specifically the exhibition.
2 - why does that matter, they stated this is an exhibition to gain feedback. why not treat it as such and move on so we can see what the final outcome is.
to me it seem the best course of action it to not get worked up right now, and just provide constructive feedback. but thats just me, I dont really try to increase my own stress over things that I like. I use things I like to reduce my stress.
In my view, no. I was implying this mode is perhaps a bit of a bonus for those that already have the relevant squads reliced. But to take your hypothetical BH event, good grief no!
Dengar needs 200 carbanti to go from gear 9->10. In setting up a go fund me so people can donate. Can you help me out pls
I think for many the concern is based on the fact that we have played this game long enough to know that the rewards aren't going to increase significantly between the "exhibition" and the "real thing". CG uses "exhibition" to make sure the mechanics are working as intended and the event runs smoothly - not to give out weak rewards only to dramatically increase them later. If anything, history suggests that the reward structure does, indeed change - just not in a way any player would prefer (please see Sith raid rewards post "modification" for examples).
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
Yes, many can even get Flawless Victory on the final tier - I did (GL Rey, GK, Holdo, GSky and JKR).
Then I saw the rewards....and literally laughed out loud for how weak they were on T7.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
So, if you win with 4 toons relic 5 and 1 gear 12, no reward. In a game where many already passed relic 5, we cannot use many of our toons and need to stop exactly at relic 5 for some lame reward.