Did they forgot to add JKL event back?

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Deflaimun
4 posts Member
edited December 2020
He's last even has been more than 90 days now.
Can we at least have a date when the next event will hit?
Post edited by Kyno on

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  • August
  • Seems they wanted to add the new pit raid and Mando event. Follow the $
    Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
  • I believe today is the expected minimum return date. Maybe give a little leeway. The cadence isn’t precise.

    Remember when Malak came back for the second or third time. He was several months late according to cadence. Just saying it may be a little early to say he’s been forgotten.
  • Deflaimun wrote: »
    Can we at least have a date when the next event will hit?
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    (Star Trek meme for Kyno)
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  • Yeah might as well make a when will jkl return mega at this point.
  • It’s not about not being allowed to question things, it’s about repeatedly asking the same question, despite being told every time:
    - they won’t answer these questions
    - They won’t bring it back any sooner or later as a result of these questions
    - The release cadence does not specify a return date for the second of 3rd running of the event

    My son asking me when we’re on a journey in the car “are we there yet?” reminds me of these threads. Him asking repeatedly makes no difference to our arrival time, and him comparing our current journey duration to the previous time we were in the car is meaningless, because no 2 car journeys are mandated to last the same length of time.

    But he is 4 years old.
  • looking back at the other journey characters there longest is:

    Luke (to cls): 140 days
    Rey: 119 days
    Jrevan: 105 days
    Drevan: 84 days (also made permanent very fast)
    luke (to JKL): 92 so far.

    so given the main other 3, we are looking at least 2 more weeks
  • The difference that everyone seems to not notice .... is that JKL is REQUIRED to obtain a GL.... so the standard should be different for him.
  • TVF
    36591 posts Member
    Jpfit262 wrote: »
    The difference that everyone seems to not notice .... is that JKL is REQUIRED to obtain a GL.... so the standard should be different for him.

    or should it

    Third run? That's all on you.
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  • Nikoms565
    14242 posts Member
    edited December 2020
    TVF wrote: »
    Jpfit262 wrote: »
    The difference that everyone seems to not notice .... is that JKL is REQUIRED to obtain a GL.... so the standard should be different for him.

    or should it

    Third run? That's all on you.

    This. The extremely good hoarders/well prepared got JKL the first time around. After that, everyone knew his requirements. So those that set aside other farms and focused on the requirements got JKL the second time he dropped (yes, even many f2p players). IIRC, that's about 23,000 players that have JKL at this point.

    Most people begging for his return now chose to focus on other things after his first appearance. Abs that's fine - but that's their choice, not CG's "fault".
    In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie

    In game guild: TNR Uprising
    I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
    *This space left intentionally blank*
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    Deflaimun wrote: »
    He's last even has been more than 90 days now.
    Can we at least have a date when the next event will hit?

    First - why does 90 days matter? Where is it stated that event will return at 90 days, or before?

    Second- no they have stated in the release cadence they will not announce the dates of events before they hit the 1 year mark.
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    LordDirt wrote: »
    Seems they wanted to add the new pit raid and Mando event. Follow the $

    You misspelled release cadence
  • TVF
    36591 posts Member
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Jpfit262 wrote: »
    The difference that everyone seems to not notice .... is that JKL is REQUIRED to obtain a GL.... so the standard should be different for him.

    or should it

    Third run? That's all on you.

    This. The extremely good hoarders/well prepared got JKL the first time around. After that, everyone knew his requirements. So those that set aside other farms and focused on the requirements got JKL the second time he dropped (yes, even many f2p players). IIRC, that's about 23,000 players that have JKL at this point.

    Most people begging for his return now chose to focus on other things after his first appearance. Abs that's fine - but that's their choice, not CG's "fault".

    Yes abs are fine.
    I need a new message here. https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    TVF wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Jpfit262 wrote: »
    The difference that everyone seems to not notice .... is that JKL is REQUIRED to obtain a GL.... so the standard should be different for him.

    or should it

    Third run? That's all on you.

    This. The extremely good hoarders/well prepared got JKL the first time around. After that, everyone knew his requirements. So those that set aside other farms and focused on the requirements got JKL the second time he dropped (yes, even many f2p players). IIRC, that's about 23,000 players that have JKL at this point.

    Most people begging for his return now chose to focus on other things after his first appearance. Abs that's fine - but that's their choice, not CG's "fault".

    Yes abs are fine.

    Weird flex, but K.
  • TVF
    36591 posts Member
    Kyno wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Jpfit262 wrote: »
    The difference that everyone seems to not notice .... is that JKL is REQUIRED to obtain a GL.... so the standard should be different for him.

    or should it

    Third run? That's all on you.

    This. The extremely good hoarders/well prepared got JKL the first time around. After that, everyone knew his requirements. So those that set aside other farms and focused on the requirements got JKL the second time he dropped (yes, even many f2p players). IIRC, that's about 23,000 players that have JKL at this point.

    Most people begging for his return now chose to focus on other things after his first appearance. Abs that's fine - but that's their choice, not CG's "fault".

    Yes abs are fine.

    Weird flex, but K.

    I didn't say *whose* abs.

    But thanks for noticing.
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  • crzydroid
    7296 posts Moderator
    Jpfit262 wrote: »
    The difference that everyone seems to not notice .... is that JKL is REQUIRED to obtain a GL.... so the standard should be different for him.

    This is probably exactly why they would wait LONGER to bring him back the third time. They threw us a bone by bringing him back on the early side of things because he was required for JML. But now they want JML owners to feel like their investment was validated. If you didn't get him the second time around, that's on you.

    If we get him for Christmas that will be very generous. Based on other cadences and the aforementioned reason of keeping JML owners happy, it wouldn't be unexpected to get him back mid-January.
  • crzydroid wrote: »
    Jpfit262 wrote: »
    The difference that everyone seems to not notice .... is that JKL is REQUIRED to obtain a GL.... so the standard should be different for him.

    This is probably exactly why they would wait LONGER to bring him back the third time. They threw us a bone by bringing him back on the early side of things because he was required for JML. But now they want JML owners to feel like their investment was validated. If you didn't get him the second time around, that's on you.

    If we get him for Christmas that will be very generous. Based on other cadences and the aforementioned reason of keeping JML owners happy, it wouldn't be unexpected to get him back mid-January.

    And out of curiosity- why do palp, Rey and kylo owners not need to have their investments “validated” then
  • crzydroid wrote: »
    Jpfit262 wrote: »
    The difference that everyone seems to not notice .... is that JKL is REQUIRED to obtain a GL.... so the standard should be different for him.

    This is probably exactly why they would wait LONGER to bring him back the third time. They threw us a bone by bringing him back on the early side of things because he was required for JML. But now they want JML owners to feel like their investment was validated. If you didn't get him the second time around, that's on you.

    If we get him for Christmas that will be very generous. Based on other cadences and the aforementioned reason of keeping JML owners happy, it wouldn't be unexpected to get him back mid-January.


    would make more sense they bring him back very fast, because then they could grab panic-farm-money - waiting longer only let us prepare longer -> save unlock for everyone
  • Twi
    209 posts Member
    edited December 2020
    TVF wrote: »
    Jpfit262 wrote: »
    The difference that everyone seems to not notice .... is that JKL is REQUIRED to obtain a GL.... so the standard should be different for him.

    or should it

    Third run? That's all on you.

    STOP THIS TYPE OF POST!!!!

    No it is not on anyone for missing JKL. Stop throwing gas on the fire. Wampa and Hermit Yoda are 3 to 6 month farms a piece. There is NO WAY to have framed them ahead of his second return. I had Hermit Yoda already. I started Wampa when JKL's requirements were announced, and it took me 115 days 7* him... Pouring EVERY bit of GET1 into it.

    So no its not on anyone for not meeting a second return date which was the shortest of any Journey Character. Which happened before the 3 to 4 month cadence window detailed by CG in their cadence blog post. Not to mention that only 3 days notice was given on first release and 1 day notice on second return (Note CG said in the same cadence post this would be a week...)

    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/164741/dev-blog-character-release-and-event-cadence-3-30-2018

    TopHat stated that, "And we want you to feel like you know when you can expect that stuff to return or how you’re going to get that stuff when it comes around, whether it’s the first time or the 100th time." In the above post... JKL has borken the cadence and release pattern set by CG. They can do that its thier game... But we can want his return, we can ask for his return, espically when the pattern that has been set isn't being followed...
  • Twi
    209 posts Member
    Bottom line, people want to play the game. People want the months long investment to payoff and enjoy characters they have farmed for.

    JKL is a game changing character. He is also a gateway character to JML. Both of which are key for LS Geo TB, and do really good number in the new Pit Raid.

    Why not let those who have chased him enjoy him as well...
  • crzydroid
    7296 posts Moderator
    Larx wrote: »
    crzydroid wrote: »
    Jpfit262 wrote: »
    The difference that everyone seems to not notice .... is that JKL is REQUIRED to obtain a GL.... so the standard should be different for him.

    This is probably exactly why they would wait LONGER to bring him back the third time. They threw us a bone by bringing him back on the early side of things because he was required for JML. But now they want JML owners to feel like their investment was validated. If you didn't get him the second time around, that's on you.

    If we get him for Christmas that will be very generous. Based on other cadences and the aforementioned reason of keeping JML owners happy, it wouldn't be unexpected to get him back mid-January.


    would make more sense they bring him back very fast, because then they could grab panic-farm-money - waiting longer only let us prepare longer -> save unlock for everyone

    That's exactly what they DID do. Brought him back early the second time to get a grab for JML. Everyone should be ready for him the third time regardless.
  • crzydroid
    7296 posts Moderator
    Twi wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Jpfit262 wrote: »
    The difference that everyone seems to not notice .... is that JKL is REQUIRED to obtain a GL.... so the standard should be different for him.

    or should it

    Third run? That's all on you.

    STOP THIS TYPE OF POST!!!!

    No it is not on anyone for missing JKL. Stop throwing gas on the fire. Wampa and Hermit Yoda are 3 to 6 month farms a piece. There is NO WAY to have framed them ahead of his second return. I had Hermit Yoda already. I started Wampa when JKL's requirements were announced, and it took me 115 days 7* him... Pouring EVERY bit of GET1 into it.

    So no its not on anyone for not meeting a second return date which was the shortest of any Journey Character. Which happened before the 3 to 4 month cadence window detailed by CG in their cadence blog post. Not to mention that only 3 days notice was given on first release and 1 day notice on second return (Note CG said in the same cadence post this would be a week...)

    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/164741/dev-blog-character-release-and-event-cadence-3-30-2018

    TopHat stated that, "And we want you to feel like you know when you can expect that stuff to return or how you’re going to get that stuff when it comes around, whether it’s the first time or the 100th time." In the above post... JKL has borken the cadence and release pattern set by CG. They can do that its thier game... But we can want his return, we can ask for his return, espically when the pattern that has been set isn't being followed...

    Consider that if you didn't have these two finished long ago, you are a new player and your roster is not ready for JKL anyway.
  • TVF
    36591 posts Member
    Twi wrote: »
    Bottom line, people want to play the game. People want the months long investment to payoff and enjoy characters they have farmed for.

    JKL is a game changing character. He is also a gateway character to JML. Both of which are key for LS Geo TB, and do really good number in the new Pit Raid.

    Why not let those who have chased him enjoy him as well...

    Because he's coming and will be enjoyed. Just not in the exact number of days you want. You'll have to live with that fact, and none of your posts will change it, no matter how much you shout at me about my posts.

    At least you'll have ShinyMando available whenever you're ready. Enjoy him. Not everything is for everyone.
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  • Twi
    209 posts Member
    edited December 2020
    crzydroid wrote: »
    Consider that if you didn't have these two finished long ago, you are a new player and your roster is not ready for JKL anyway.

    Why the hostility? Why? And who are you to say how the game is supposed to be played?

    Not to mention my roster is ready for JKL, is ready for JML (once JKL is released). I have gear for them both to R7 them.

    (Also a month 1 player, with 4.3 million GP and SKLR already).

    I don't get why you are attacking anyone on this forum for asking questions about release of an event that isn't following the release cadence stated by the developer...

    All of us that are asking questions are showing support, are looking forward to content within the game, and are looking for clarification... Why attack that?

    @CG_Doja_Fett is this really how such questions should be handled?
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    edited December 2020
    @Twi please go back and read the post you linked.

    Here are some highlights that show they did not break it, and they are following exactly what they said.
    Hero’s Journeys


    Similar to Legendaries and Mythics, we have a concept of a New and Legacy Hero’s Journey.
    The first two runs of a Hero’s Journey we consider New and will give at least a week’s notice before their launch.
    Unlike a Legendary or Mythic, when a Hero’s Journey becomes a Legacy event we will not necessarily post it to the Event Calendar at the beginning of the month. However, the intention is that Hero’s Journey events will return roughly every three to four months after they become a Legacy event and that we will give at least a week’s notice before they return to the game. When we announce the return of the Hero’s Journey event, we will post it on the Event Calendar on the forums.

    You can see here that first 2 runs are still new, and do not need to follow the 3-4 month timeline, so they didnt break it by launching it 83 days the first time. They may not have given the full notice, so there is that.

    Now we are in the Legacy period, which means they will follow the 3-4 month period, so asking now that it is the beginning edge of that period is fine, it will not change the fact that he will launch when they want within the next month, as per the cadence.

    It is clear and there is no need for a dev response to this matter as we have the cadence, which has not been broken as far as launch dates.
  • Twi
    209 posts Member
    Kyno wrote: »
    @Twi please go back and read the post you linked.

    Here are some highlights that show they did not break it, and they are following exactly what they said.
    Hero’s Journeys


    Similar to Legendaries and Mythics, we have a concept of a New and Legacy Hero’s Journey.
    The first two runs of a Hero’s Journey we consider New and will give at least a week’s notice before their launch.
    Unlike a Legendary or Mythic, when a Hero’s Journey becomes a Legacy event we will not necessarily post it to the Event Calendar at the beginning of the month. However, the intention is that Hero’s Journey events will return roughly every three to four months after they become a Legacy event and that we will give at least a week’s notice before they return to the game. When we announce the return of the Hero’s Journey event, we will post it on the Event Calendar on the forums.

    You can see here that first 2 runs are still new, and do not need to follow the 3-4 month timeline, so they didnt break it by launching it 83 days the first time. They may not have given the full notice, so there is that.

    Now we are in the Legacy period, which means they will follow the 3-4 month period, so asking now that it is the beginning edge of that period is fine, it will not change the fact that he will launch when they want within the next month, as per the cadence.

    It is clear and there is no need for a dev response to this matter as we have the cadence, which has not been broken as far as launch dates.

    Why are you cherry picking what they follow in that cadence?

    "The first two runs of a Hero’s Journey we consider New and will give at least a week’s notice before their launch." - This was not followed both times

    "...in the initial two runs of the events, we believe players that have invested widely and made preparation for the event should be rewarded for their diligence." - As previously demonstrated two of the key requirements for the event Wampa and Hermt Yoda could not be farmed within the original announcement period and the conclusion of the second appearance. How is that "rewarding for their diligence".

    Third, "It is clear and there is no need for a dev response to this matter as we have the cadence"... This is your opinion... Why don't we let the developers make the call?
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    Twi wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    @Twi please go back and read the post you linked.

    Here are some highlights that show they did not break it, and they are following exactly what they said.
    Hero’s Journeys


    Similar to Legendaries and Mythics, we have a concept of a New and Legacy Hero’s Journey.
    The first two runs of a Hero’s Journey we consider New and will give at least a week’s notice before their launch.
    Unlike a Legendary or Mythic, when a Hero’s Journey becomes a Legacy event we will not necessarily post it to the Event Calendar at the beginning of the month. However, the intention is that Hero’s Journey events will return roughly every three to four months after they become a Legacy event and that we will give at least a week’s notice before they return to the game. When we announce the return of the Hero’s Journey event, we will post it on the Event Calendar on the forums.

    You can see here that first 2 runs are still new, and do not need to follow the 3-4 month timeline, so they didnt break it by launching it 83 days the first time. They may not have given the full notice, so there is that.

    Now we are in the Legacy period, which means they will follow the 3-4 month period, so asking now that it is the beginning edge of that period is fine, it will not change the fact that he will launch when they want within the next month, as per the cadence.

    It is clear and there is no need for a dev response to this matter as we have the cadence, which has not been broken as far as launch dates.

    Why are you cherry picking what they follow in that cadence?

    "The first two runs of a Hero’s Journey we consider New and will give at least a week’s notice before their launch." - This was not followed both times

    "...in the initial two runs of the events, we believe players that have invested widely and made preparation for the event should be rewarded for their diligence." - As previously demonstrated two of the key requirements for the event Wampa and Hermt Yoda could not be farmed within the original announcement period and the conclusion of the second appearance. How is that "rewarding for their diligence".

    Third, "It is clear and there is no need for a dev response to this matter as we have the cadence"... This is your opinion... Why don't we let the developers make the call?

    As a moderator here we have pushed for much of the documents you see regarding what will happen with releases, we did this so that the dev team doesnt need to respond to repeated questions of "known things". Its not my call, its documented and there is no need for then to comment that the document is correct.

    I agreed with your first point, not cherry picking.

    You want to argue the second point, but that is not stated, that is just how you feel. I don't see how players who farmed those shards without them being directly needed previously were not rewarded for thier diligence. Or players who stock up store materials to stay flexible for things like this for that matter.

    Sure not everyone fits in to that situation, but that is not breaking the release cadence, by any means.
  • Twi
    209 posts Member
    edited December 2020
    Thank you for the follow up @Kyno. And I appreciate the help the moderators do for the community.

    The more open communication, the better for the community!
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