A better way to handle crashes
Let's face it... Like any software, this game will never be totally bug free. However, it can be quite upsetting when you hit one of the bugs at the wrong time.
I'm thinking of the game modes that have no retreat option. Galactic arena for example. How many times have you fallen foul of a crash mid battle? Based on reports online, I'm willing to believe it happens to all of us at some point (but definitely some like me seem to be hit by it more than others)...
Wouldn't it be great if the game detected that crash and rather than treat it as a failed attempt, it gave you an option to try again? Instead of an instant loss/possible loss for all your guild mates in TW or TB/loss of a battle (and hence the round) in GAC/etc. how happy would you be if you had a chance to recover it?
Now I know that the instant reaction is going to be that you have to prevent cheating in these modes.... Fine by me! Put some extra constraints on the restart - e.g. you can't access this mode through a resignation, you can only do it once, you must complete within the original 5 minute window, or something like that. Given that you already enforce instant failure in the game, it can't be hard to detect this and do something better instead, can it?
Looking at all the angry posts around this issue, it must be worth some effort to ease that pain... Right?
I'm thinking of the game modes that have no retreat option. Galactic arena for example. How many times have you fallen foul of a crash mid battle? Based on reports online, I'm willing to believe it happens to all of us at some point (but definitely some like me seem to be hit by it more than others)...
Wouldn't it be great if the game detected that crash and rather than treat it as a failed attempt, it gave you an option to try again? Instead of an instant loss/possible loss for all your guild mates in TW or TB/loss of a battle (and hence the round) in GAC/etc. how happy would you be if you had a chance to recover it?
Now I know that the instant reaction is going to be that you have to prevent cheating in these modes.... Fine by me! Put some extra constraints on the restart - e.g. you can't access this mode through a resignation, you can only do it once, you must complete within the original 5 minute window, or something like that. Given that you already enforce instant failure in the game, it can't be hard to detect this and do something better instead, can it?
Looking at all the angry posts around this issue, it must be worth some effort to ease that pain... Right?
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Fewer people quitting due to these issues = more customers who may be willing to pay a few more $$$
If you limit it as suggested (i.e. 1 retry and with the same deadline as the original battle - i.e. you don't get another 5 minutes for the restarted battle), this only slightly opens the door for cheating, but massively reduces the cost of a crash. The theory being that legitimate players usually complete most battles in under 3 minutes and (in my experience at least) the crash usually happens near the start of the battle.
Anyone who force quits still has to race to restart, then complete in a reduced time (and only gets this chance once). I doubt many people would be able to cash in on that unless they already had a team that was going to win.
Someone who understands this better than me should certainly chime in, but I'm pretty sure it should be very easy to detect the difference. It would also be very easy for these cheating apps to mimic a crash, but if someone is using those they aren't going to need to manipulate the game for a free second try anyways.
As weird as it sounds, no you can't, at least not in the current setup.
Current setup only pings the server at the beginning and end of a combat, which is why you can play any match offline, once you are in, and connect again at the end.
If they changed the setup to ping more often, it may lead to more issues as someone with a bad connection could get a dropped battle. Also this doesnt solve the issues unless it is a full live connection the whole time.
A live connection the whole time has it's own pitfalls for both them and the players.
Even a live connection will not be able tell the difference between a force closed app and a crash all the time, because an app crash is not likely to always have the ability to send information back to the server. Buttons disappearing, is one of the few exceptions, but a full crash or restart or locking will not.
Yes. This will be a level playing field for everyone to use and frankly only works early on in a battle or you will be out of time on your retry.
I don't know about you, but I have sufficiently few battles that rely on RNG (outside of certain events - P4 GAS anyone?) that it will make no odds. I'd be willing to give my opponents that small opportunity (that I could also use!) In order to fix THE most frustrating problem with this game.
Exactly! A truly crashed app can't tell the servers what's happened and so I'm asking them to give all players a limited benefit of the doubt to recover.
That will be a "No thanks" from me. I like that in TW and GA there's no second chances or ways of correcting mistakes once the battle is initiated - even when I make my own mistakes that may cost the win.
Your phone is not stable.
I got a new phone and it fixed every crash.
Then I started crashing again because I ran out of storage. I fixed that, and the crashes stopped again.
ha that's a good one
Yes, even if it's just bad RNG.
Is that not worth addressing? And if it is, where does the line lay on a fair deal for those players affected (given that you can't detect the difference between a force quit and a crash)?
Of course it's worth addressing but your solution comes with too great cost. If you have any better ideas feel free to let us all know.
No one? I've already explained why I personally believe it's too great a cost and why it's a "No thanx" from me:
they are all handled the same right now, so it is a level playing field.
you want a different playing field to be the "new level playing field".
as pointed at above, what you are introducing, allows player to "game the system", even if you find this an acceptable margin and a small one, its still there and adds that layer to those game modes.
There is literally no option but to change the game's rules and tie them down enough to make enough people happy. Looks like that there is little appetite for that sort of change, though.