Merciless massacre wai?

Itsa_me_Malario

So just faced off a padme team with a gear 12 ahsoka, casted merciless, did the force crush and since ahsoka was gear 12 she went below 100% hp and Annie got ticked off, and one spotted Vader, I thought they were only allowed to counter attack and not take a turn when Vader was in merciless mode.

Itsa_me_Malario

It could also be I'm not understanding the kit properly 😕

Vendi1983

It's working as intended. Other characters gaining bonus turns because of something Vader did is allowed. It just prevents anything from happening because Vader took a bonus turn.

UdalCuain

WAI. It doesn't prevent bonus turns.

It prevents effects caused by characters getting bonus turns. At present we don't any of those effects. It's just a bit of future-proofing in his kit.

Itsa_me_Malario

UdalCuain wrote: »

WAI. It doesn't prevent bonus turns.

It prevents effects caused by characters getting bonus turns. At present we don't any of those effects. It's just a bit of future-proofing in his kit.

Got it! Thanks 😊🙏 should had used traya lol

Vendi1983

Actually we do:

Press the Advantage on SLKR doesn't activate when Vader is in Merciless Massacre. It activates on "speed recovery" or "bonus speed gain" for H/P decrease, and "delay" or "bonus speed loss" for H/P increase.

Vader's MM turns are coded as "Vaders unique bonus turns", the same way that Thrawn's swap is coded as a hard "recover 500% TM" with no handler to trigger effects elsewhere.

Vendi1983

@Iy4oy4s it prevents abilities that are triggered by Vader taking bonus turns/gaining TM.

JKA/GG bonus turns aren't triggered because someone gained TM or took a turn, they're triggered by damage/death markers being hit. Hence why they can still happen.

UdalCuain

But bonus turns (as in actual bonus turns, not "gain 100% TM") don't trigger Press the Advantage anyway do they? Hux certainly doesn't.

Vendi1983

@UdalCuain you are correct. Hux doesn't trigger it either. It does have a handler, unlike Thrawn, which is odd. It seems like the "turn meter gain" caveat at the end almost seems inserted to clarify exactly this situation: SLKR.

UdalCuain

Vendi1983 wrote: »

@UdalCuain you are correct. Hux doesn't trigger it either. It does have a handler, unlike Thrawn, which is odd.

It's the old problem of bonus turns, 100% TM, and older kits using them interchangeably.

We should maybe shhh on Hux incase they change it.

Old_Ben12345

I'm pretty sure that's working as intended.

I have capitalized off that interaction many times when I used to see Vaders in arena. He'd kill/damage someone, Anakin would get mad, deal big damage, and Padme would turn all those DoT's into protection up, stopping any further debuffs, and creating lots of courage.

CUFCfan

It seems to be WAI, however I think that it could be tweaked so that any characters who now have a bonus turn like JKA does if you kill someone on his team should wait until after MM is completed.