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TheLiz
TheLiz
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edited April 2021
Had to share a funny thing from today. So, my final battle in the last 3v3 was against "Bob" (don't want to say his actual tag).

I go to check my first match-up today for the new 5v5 and it's the same "Bob" from my last battle in 3v3. Needless to say, we're both pretty shocked!



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  • Antario
    Antario
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    TheLiz wrote: »
    Had to share a funny thing from today. So, my final battle in the last 3v3 was against "Bob" (don't want to say his actual tag).

    I go to check my first match-up today for the new 5v5 and it's the same "Bob" from my last battle in 3v3. Needless to say, we're both pretty shocked!

    What's wrong with a rematch?

    I suppose it means both of you have a quite niche roster and GAC MM could only find a limited pool of people to match you up with.
    That's me! https://swgoh.gg/p/337141285/
  • CCyrilS
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    Antario wrote: »
    TheLiz wrote: »
    Had to share a funny thing from today. So, my final battle in the last 3v3 was against "Bob" (don't want to say his actual tag).

    I go to check my first match-up today for the new 5v5 and it's the same "Bob" from my last battle in 3v3. Needless to say, we're both pretty shocked!

    What's wrong with a rematch?

    I suppose it means both of you have a quite niche roster and GAC MM could only find a limited pool of people to match you up with.

    What is a niche roster?
  • vincentlondon
    vincentlondon
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    edited April 2021
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    It already happened to me once but within the same GAC.
    I faced someone on the last round of a week and at the start of next week i faced the same player again

    And both i lost :s
  • Mephisto_style
    Mephisto_style
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    Antario wrote: »
    TheLiz wrote: »
    Had to share a funny thing from today. So, my final battle in the last 3v3 was against "Bob" (don't want to say his actual tag).

    I go to check my first match-up today for the new 5v5 and it's the same "Bob" from my last battle in 3v3. Needless to say, we're both pretty shocked!

    What's wrong with a rematch?

    I suppose it means both of you have a quite niche roster and GAC MM could only find a limited pool of people to match you up with.

    I dont think anyone did. Shocked =/= wrong.
  • Mephisto_style
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    vincentlondon wrote: »
    It already happened to me once but within the same GAC.
    I faced someone on the last round of a week and at the start of next week i faced the same player again

    And both i lost :s

    I think I have fought 10ish rematches.
  • Antario
    Antario
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    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    TheLiz wrote: »
    Had to share a funny thing from today. So, my final battle in the last 3v3 was against "Bob" (don't want to say his actual tag).

    I go to check my first match-up today for the new 5v5 and it's the same "Bob" from my last battle in 3v3. Needless to say, we're both pretty shocked!

    What's wrong with a rematch?

    I suppose it means both of you have a quite niche roster and GAC MM could only find a limited pool of people to match you up with.

    What is a niche roster?

    A roster which is atypical for the majority of players. For example having 4 GLs but overall below 5m GP. Something used by the MM algorithm but is not common. Like I said, I just suppose. I have no proof the number of GLs is taken into consideration for MM. Consider it just as a example.
    That's me! https://swgoh.gg/p/337141285/
  • CCyrilS
    CCyrilS
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    Antario wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    TheLiz wrote: »
    Had to share a funny thing from today. So, my final battle in the last 3v3 was against "Bob" (don't want to say his actual tag).

    I go to check my first match-up today for the new 5v5 and it's the same "Bob" from my last battle in 3v3. Needless to say, we're both pretty shocked!

    What's wrong with a rematch?

    I suppose it means both of you have a quite niche roster and GAC MM could only find a limited pool of people to match you up with.

    What is a niche roster?

    A roster which is atypical for the majority of players. For example having 4 GLs but overall below 5m GP. Something used by the MM algorithm but is not common. Like I said, I just suppose. I have no proof the number of GLs is taken into consideration for MM. Consider it just as a example.

    That's not how it works.
  • Ultra
    Ultra
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    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    TheLiz wrote: »
    Had to share a funny thing from today. So, my final battle in the last 3v3 was against "Bob" (don't want to say his actual tag).

    I go to check my first match-up today for the new 5v5 and it's the same "Bob" from my last battle in 3v3. Needless to say, we're both pretty shocked!

    What's wrong with a rematch?

    I suppose it means both of you have a quite niche roster and GAC MM could only find a limited pool of people to match you up with.

    What is a niche roster?

    A roster which is atypical for the majority of players. For example having 4 GLs but overall below 5m GP. Something used by the MM algorithm but is not common. Like I said, I just suppose. I have no proof the number of GLs is taken into consideration for MM. Consider it just as a example.

    That's not how it works.

    its just an example bro
  • CCyrilS
    CCyrilS
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    Ultra wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    TheLiz wrote: »
    Had to share a funny thing from today. So, my final battle in the last 3v3 was against "Bob" (don't want to say his actual tag).

    I go to check my first match-up today for the new 5v5 and it's the same "Bob" from my last battle in 3v3. Needless to say, we're both pretty shocked!

    What's wrong with a rematch?

    I suppose it means both of you have a quite niche roster and GAC MM could only find a limited pool of people to match you up with.

    What is a niche roster?

    A roster which is atypical for the majority of players. For example having 4 GLs but overall below 5m GP. Something used by the MM algorithm but is not common. Like I said, I just suppose. I have no proof the number of GLs is taken into consideration for MM. Consider it just as a example.

    That's not how it works.

    its just an example bro

    I get it. Like another example is MM put them together because they have similar mods.
  • TheLiz
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    He has a niche roster since he's super focused at the top with only 5 mil gp and 2 GL. Mine is a more typical 6.4 with 1 GL.
  • Antario
    Antario
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    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Ultra wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    TheLiz wrote: »
    Had to share a funny thing from today. So, my final battle in the last 3v3 was against "Bob" (don't want to say his actual tag).

    I go to check my first match-up today for the new 5v5 and it's the same "Bob" from my last battle in 3v3. Needless to say, we're both pretty shocked!

    What's wrong with a rematch?

    I suppose it means both of you have a quite niche roster and GAC MM could only find a limited pool of people to match you up with.

    What is a niche roster?

    A roster which is atypical for the majority of players. For example having 4 GLs but overall below 5m GP. Something used by the MM algorithm but is not common. Like I said, I just suppose. I have no proof the number of GLs is taken into consideration for MM. Consider it just as a example.

    That's not how it works.

    its just an example bro

    I get it. Like another example is MM put them together because they have similar mods.

    There are many assumptions. But what I know for certain is that the MM algorithm is not as simple as counting 65 or 80 characters' GP and do random mix. You always get matched up with people, who show comparable traits to your own roster (regardless of their GP). That's why I supposed the OP has a unique roster, which is not shared by many others.
    That's me! https://swgoh.gg/p/337141285/
  • Ultra
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    TheLiz wrote: »
    He has a niche roster since he's super focused at the top with only 5 mil gp and 2 GL. Mine is a more typical 6.4 with 1 GL.

    How do you know 6.4 GP with 1 GL is typical

    I expect 2-3 GLs at that GP range tbh
  • TVF
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    Ultra wrote: »
    TheLiz wrote: »
    He has a niche roster since he's super focused at the top with only 5 mil gp and 2 GL. Mine is a more typical 6.4 with 1 GL.

    How do you know 6.4 GP with 1 GL is typical

    It's very typical in my matchups lol.
    I need a new message here. https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • TheLiz
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    Ultra wrote: »
    TheLiz wrote: »
    He has a niche roster since he's super focused at the top with only 5 mil gp and 2 GL. Mine is a more typical 6.4 with 1 GL.

    How do you know 6.4 GP with 1 GL is typical

    I expect 2-3 GLs at that GP range tbh

    Sorry, I forgot you have Ultra knowledge.
  • Rath_Tarr
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    Antario wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Ultra wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    TheLiz wrote: »
    Had to share a funny thing from today. So, my final battle in the last 3v3 was against "Bob" (don't want to say his actual tag).

    I go to check my first match-up today for the new 5v5 and it's the same "Bob" from my last battle in 3v3. Needless to say, we're both pretty shocked!

    What's wrong with a rematch?

    I suppose it means both of you have a quite niche roster and GAC MM could only find a limited pool of people to match you up with.

    What is a niche roster?

    A roster which is atypical for the majority of players. For example having 4 GLs but overall below 5m GP. Something used by the MM algorithm but is not common. Like I said, I just suppose. I have no proof the number of GLs is taken into consideration for MM. Consider it just as a example.

    That's not how it works.

    its just an example bro

    I get it. Like another example is MM put them together because they have similar mods.

    There are many assumptions. But what I know for certain is that the MM algorithm is not as simple as counting 65 or 80 characters' GP and do random mix. You always get matched up with people, who show comparable traits to your own roster (regardless of their GP). That's why I supposed the OP has a unique roster, which is not shared by many others.
    Wrong. I encounter a wide variety of opponents and I invest a good deal of time analyzing their rosters to find weaknesses I can exploit to beat them.
  • QuickGoneJim
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    I was matched 2 or even 3 times against a couple of people. 6.8m GP and 3 GLs ... certainly not an uncommon roster
  • Antario
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    Rath_Tarr wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Ultra wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Antario wrote: »
    TheLiz wrote: »
    Had to share a funny thing from today. So, my final battle in the last 3v3 was against "Bob" (don't want to say his actual tag).

    I go to check my first match-up today for the new 5v5 and it's the same "Bob" from my last battle in 3v3. Needless to say, we're both pretty shocked!

    What's wrong with a rematch?

    I suppose it means both of you have a quite niche roster and GAC MM could only find a limited pool of people to match you up with.

    What is a niche roster?

    A roster which is atypical for the majority of players. For example having 4 GLs but overall below 5m GP. Something used by the MM algorithm but is not common. Like I said, I just suppose. I have no proof the number of GLs is taken into consideration for MM. Consider it just as a example.

    That's not how it works.

    its just an example bro

    I get it. Like another example is MM put them together because they have similar mods.

    There are many assumptions. But what I know for certain is that the MM algorithm is not as simple as counting 65 or 80 characters' GP and do random mix. You always get matched up with people, who show comparable traits to your own roster (regardless of their GP). That's why I supposed the OP has a unique roster, which is not shared by many others.
    Wrong. I encounter a wide variety of opponents and I invest a good deal of time analyzing their rosters to find weaknesses I can exploit to beat them.

    I'm not sure what's wrong with my statement based on your answer.

    Does the "wide variety" also include for example matchups between players with 4 GLs and players with no GL? Certainly not. But if the algorithm is simply GP based, it could well happen.
    That's me! https://swgoh.gg/p/337141285/
  • Wimma
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    edited May 2021
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    Be great to know exactly how the do the matching (top X toons only? is X always = slots needed for def + off?) but doubt they'd take GLs into consideration. I have a fairly broad roster, no GLs, and there's usually 2 or 3 in my groups with a single GL. Haven't seen any with 2+ GLs yet, but just the pre-req relic toons would add a heap of GP to their lists for that, so I assume I'm not likely to see many.
    Don't recall many rematches though, but hard to remember, and only a brief history online.
    Did you both use similar teams on defence in the rematch? Or change tactics?
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