[MEGA] Road Ahead: April 2021

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  • TVF
    28813 posts Member
    TVF wrote: »
    My favorite thing about GLs is the month of hand-wringing, no question.
    Hand-wringing and entitlement - don’t forget the entitlement!

    Entitlement is a close second, but hand-wringing wins.
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  • Pile
    556 posts Member
    Saada wrote: »
    Pile wrote: »
    The more people fret, the more I'm hoping he ends up a requirement just so I can read through all the rage quit posts.

    I quit based on your joy in my quitting just to start things off.

    See, I would have no actual joy in people quitting because no one would. The rage and hissy fits would be more than entertaining.
  • LordDirt
    2089 posts Member
    edited May 3
    My guess for the requirements
    Batch 2:
    Cody, Yoda, Qui Gon, Jedi Knight Anakin, darth Maul
    Batch 3:
    Plo Koon, Kit Fisto, Ashoka Tano, C3PO, Padme
    I say this because 1) I don’t think KAM will be required and 2) I think Lord Vader (if he is the other one) will mainly have separatists and empire as requirements along with GAS Rex and CAT.

    That list is way too easy. Too many people will have Yoda, JKA, DM, AT, C3P0 and Padme at relic levels.

    That only leaves four to relic.
  • Yeah but same with top tier rebels and Luke, not to mention, Bo, Mace, Ayla were all not popular relics
  • Kyno
    29146 posts Moderator
    StarSon wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    RTS wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    RTS wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    , I’ll know if I’m spending or laughing at CG’s ineptitude that costs them truckloads of money. If they make KAM a req without changing how to get his shards, they’re going to lose a lot of money. That’s just a fact.

    Posts like this just make me lol.

    You think you know what makes people spend better than CG (and their data companies) and their data scientists do?

    The amount of data these companies have on 'you' (generic sense) is insane - they know EXACTLY what will make people spend and what will not, and that drives 99% of these decisions.

    Responses like this just make me LOL as well :)

    You’re missing a glaring issue with your generic retort about player spending. If KAM’s farming source (a monthly TB guild mission) doesn’t change, and players cannot acquire him any other way, why would they spend on the other requirements when KAM will take a set amount of time to get? Why spend on the other 11 requirements when the last one isn’t available until 4 months later due to his farming method?
    It doesn’t require tons of data collection to make a common sense conclusion.

    If they make KAM a req but also move him and Wat to the GET store then problem solved. People will still spend. If they don’t and keep him only attainable through the TB mission, people will just farm the other reqs FTP until they can actually get KAM to 7*. Why spend when you can’t complete the reqs? Again common sense. Thanks for coming to my TED talk ;)

    Do you have data on millions of people across dozens/hundreds of games?

    For all you know similar moves in other games - which data has been shared and compiled - has led to people trying to whale on getting toons better to beat those otherwise impossible missions etc.

    You have no idea. I have no idea. But I guarantee you that CG knows - and they'll do what makes the more money, irregardless of your foot stomping posts.

    Again. People can whale to get R8 on the clones and Shak Ti but can’t make the mission show up more than once a month. I’m willing to be that the average person has 5* KAM and then some. And that’s being gracious. That means that at 5* and change you need at minimum, 4 more months of perfect KAM runs to get him. Why would anyone, even Uber krakens spend on the other requirements when they can’t finish KAM off?

    Is that common sense scenario sinking in? Or are you going to point to other games, and data when all this discussion really needs is common sense. Bash the negative speculation of him being a req as is, all you want. People are going to think how they do, and CG has past practices to blame. However I have no idea how you think anyone would whale on JKM when it would be worthless until KAM is 7*

    Then it seems common sense and past practices of CG would lead us to the conclusion KAM will not be required, not that he would be.

    Then why not just come out and say "This GL will not require any character achieved only through Geonosis Special Missions,"?

    Because they are going to follow the outlined cadence.
  • Ravens1113
    3281 posts Member
    Kyno wrote: »
    StarSon wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    RTS wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    RTS wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    , I’ll know if I’m spending or laughing at CG’s ineptitude that costs them truckloads of money. If they make KAM a req without changing how to get his shards, they’re going to lose a lot of money. That’s just a fact.

    Posts like this just make me lol.

    You think you know what makes people spend better than CG (and their data companies) and their data scientists do?

    The amount of data these companies have on 'you' (generic sense) is insane - they know EXACTLY what will make people spend and what will not, and that drives 99% of these decisions.

    Responses like this just make me LOL as well :)

    You’re missing a glaring issue with your generic retort about player spending. If KAM’s farming source (a monthly TB guild mission) doesn’t change, and players cannot acquire him any other way, why would they spend on the other requirements when KAM will take a set amount of time to get? Why spend on the other 11 requirements when the last one isn’t available until 4 months later due to his farming method?
    It doesn’t require tons of data collection to make a common sense conclusion.

    If they make KAM a req but also move him and Wat to the GET store then problem solved. People will still spend. If they don’t and keep him only attainable through the TB mission, people will just farm the other reqs FTP until they can actually get KAM to 7*. Why spend when you can’t complete the reqs? Again common sense. Thanks for coming to my TED talk ;)

    Do you have data on millions of people across dozens/hundreds of games?

    For all you know similar moves in other games - which data has been shared and compiled - has led to people trying to whale on getting toons better to beat those otherwise impossible missions etc.

    You have no idea. I have no idea. But I guarantee you that CG knows - and they'll do what makes the more money, irregardless of your foot stomping posts.

    Again. People can whale to get R8 on the clones and Shak Ti but can’t make the mission show up more than once a month. I’m willing to be that the average person has 5* KAM and then some. And that’s being gracious. That means that at 5* and change you need at minimum, 4 more months of perfect KAM runs to get him. Why would anyone, even Uber krakens spend on the other requirements when they can’t finish KAM off?

    Is that common sense scenario sinking in? Or are you going to point to other games, and data when all this discussion really needs is common sense. Bash the negative speculation of him being a req as is, all you want. People are going to think how they do, and CG has past practices to blame. However I have no idea how you think anyone would whale on JKM when it would be worthless until KAM is 7*

    Then it seems common sense and past practices of CG would lead us to the conclusion KAM will not be required, not that he would be.

    Then why not just come out and say "This GL will not require any character achieved only through Geonosis Special Missions,"?

    Because they are going to follow the outlined cadence.

    Really? Cause they’ve said “GL’s will not be required for new GL’s”

    As you yourself said, saying a faction or group of characters isn’t breaking that cadence, in fact they did it already. So saying “TB mission acquired characters will not be required for GL’s” doesn’t break any cadence or outlined practice.
  • BeralCator
    618 posts Member
    Going all in on Jedi Knight Guardian and Consular. Wish me luck.
  • Ravens1113
    3281 posts Member
    BeralCator wrote: »
    Going all in on Jedi Knight Guardian and Consular. Wish me luck.

    I’d wait brudda
  • LordDirt
    2089 posts Member
    BeralCator wrote: »
    Going all in on Jedi Knight Guardian and Consular. Wish me luck.

    Just hoard gear, no need to apply it to anyone.
  • placing bets, whos in?
    No. Just No.
  • LordDirt
    2089 posts Member
    CUP
    Jedi Consular
    Jedi Knight Guardian
  • im here for it, can we add that cook alien ?
    No. Just No.
  • LordDirt
    2089 posts Member
    Dex Jettster, lol
  • mariogsh
    371 posts Member
    Sure, why not

    Everyone but KAM
  • GlitterOutlaw
    1872 posts Member
    edited May 4
    or if kam, make his node easier.

    im fearing there gonna make us do bad batch, really dont want lvl 5 toons i dont care about from level 1 gear 1
    No. Just No.
  • mariogsh
    371 posts Member
    or if kam, make his node easier.

    im fearing there gonna make us do bad batch, really dont want lvl 5 toons i dont care about from level 1 gear 1

    Nah

    Bad Batch has absolutely nothing to do with Kenobi
    They may be needed for a "Fallen Anakin" later on tho
  • DarjeloSalas
    5541 posts Member
    @Kyno or @GlitterOutlaw

    Please edit this click bait thread title to at least include a question mark.
  • @Kyno or @GlitterOutlaw

    Please edit this click bait thread title to at least include a question mark.

    Or add "CONFIRMED" to the title
  • Adamklark
    696 posts Member
    CUP IS NEEDED FOR GL Kenobi? (WHAT WAS EA THINKING? NOT CLICKBAIT) (SPECULATION).


    fixed for you, a proper youtube title
  • there always one guy.
    No. Just No.
  • DarjeloSalas
    5541 posts Member
    there always one guy.
    And you are that guy today.
  • Legend91
    1807 posts Member
    LordDirt wrote: »
    BeralCator wrote: »
    Going all in on Jedi Knight Guardian and Consular. Wish me luck.

    Just hoard gear, no need to apply it to anyone.

    That's not the forums way.
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  • Kyno
    29146 posts Moderator
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    StarSon wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    RTS wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    RTS wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    , I’ll know if I’m spending or laughing at CG’s ineptitude that costs them truckloads of money. If they make KAM a req without changing how to get his shards, they’re going to lose a lot of money. That’s just a fact.

    Posts like this just make me lol.

    You think you know what makes people spend better than CG (and their data companies) and their data scientists do?

    The amount of data these companies have on 'you' (generic sense) is insane - they know EXACTLY what will make people spend and what will not, and that drives 99% of these decisions.

    Responses like this just make me LOL as well :)

    You’re missing a glaring issue with your generic retort about player spending. If KAM’s farming source (a monthly TB guild mission) doesn’t change, and players cannot acquire him any other way, why would they spend on the other requirements when KAM will take a set amount of time to get? Why spend on the other 11 requirements when the last one isn’t available until 4 months later due to his farming method?
    It doesn’t require tons of data collection to make a common sense conclusion.

    If they make KAM a req but also move him and Wat to the GET store then problem solved. People will still spend. If they don’t and keep him only attainable through the TB mission, people will just farm the other reqs FTP until they can actually get KAM to 7*. Why spend when you can’t complete the reqs? Again common sense. Thanks for coming to my TED talk ;)

    Do you have data on millions of people across dozens/hundreds of games?

    For all you know similar moves in other games - which data has been shared and compiled - has led to people trying to whale on getting toons better to beat those otherwise impossible missions etc.

    You have no idea. I have no idea. But I guarantee you that CG knows - and they'll do what makes the more money, irregardless of your foot stomping posts.

    Again. People can whale to get R8 on the clones and Shak Ti but can’t make the mission show up more than once a month. I’m willing to be that the average person has 5* KAM and then some. And that’s being gracious. That means that at 5* and change you need at minimum, 4 more months of perfect KAM runs to get him. Why would anyone, even Uber krakens spend on the other requirements when they can’t finish KAM off?

    Is that common sense scenario sinking in? Or are you going to point to other games, and data when all this discussion really needs is common sense. Bash the negative speculation of him being a req as is, all you want. People are going to think how they do, and CG has past practices to blame. However I have no idea how you think anyone would whale on JKM when it would be worthless until KAM is 7*

    Then it seems common sense and past practices of CG would lead us to the conclusion KAM will not be required, not that he would be.

    Then why not just come out and say "This GL will not require any character achieved only through Geonosis Special Missions,"?

    Because they are going to follow the outlined cadence.

    Really? Cause they’ve said “GL’s will not be required for new GL’s”

    As you yourself said, saying a faction or group of characters isn’t breaking that cadence, in fact they did it already. So saying “TB mission acquired characters will not be required for GL’s” doesn’t break any cadence or outlined practice.

    KAM or "TB mission acquired toons" are not a specified type of character in game, and they are not going to break the cadence for a specific toon being "in question".
  • RTS
    354 posts Member
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    RTS wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    RTS wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    , I’ll know if I’m spending or laughing at CG’s ineptitude that costs them truckloads of money. If they make KAM a req without changing how to get his shards, they’re going to lose a lot of money. That’s just a fact.

    Posts like this just make me lol.

    You think you know what makes people spend better than CG (and their data companies) and their data scientists do?

    The amount of data these companies have on 'you' (generic sense) is insane - they know EXACTLY what will make people spend and what will not, and that drives 99% of these decisions.

    Responses like this just make me LOL as well :)

    You’re missing a glaring issue with your generic retort about player spending. If KAM’s farming source (a monthly TB guild mission) doesn’t change, and players cannot acquire him any other way, why would they spend on the other requirements when KAM will take a set amount of time to get? Why spend on the other 11 requirements when the last one isn’t available until 4 months later due to his farming method?
    It doesn’t require tons of data collection to make a common sense conclusion.

    If they make KAM a req but also move him and Wat to the GET store then problem solved. People will still spend. If they don’t and keep him only attainable through the TB mission, people will just farm the other reqs FTP until they can actually get KAM to 7*. Why spend when you can’t complete the reqs? Again common sense. Thanks for coming to my TED talk ;)

    Do you have data on millions of people across dozens/hundreds of games?

    For all you know similar moves in other games - which data has been shared and compiled - has led to people trying to whale on getting toons better to beat those otherwise impossible missions etc.

    You have no idea. I have no idea. But I guarantee you that CG knows - and they'll do what makes the more money, irregardless of your foot stomping posts.

    Again. People can whale to get R8 on the clones and Shak Ti but can’t make the mission show up more than once a month. I’m willing to be that the average person has 5* KAM and then some. And that’s being gracious. That means that at 5* and change you need at minimum, 4 more months of perfect KAM runs to get him. Why would anyone, even Uber krakens spend on the other requirements when they can’t finish KAM off?

    Is that common sense scenario sinking in? Or are you going to point to other games, and data when all this discussion really needs is common sense. Bash the negative speculation of him being a req as is, all you want. People are going to think how they do, and CG has past practices to blame. However I have no idea how you think anyone would whale on JKM when it would be worthless until KAM is 7*

    I don't disagree with you - but but that post is useless. Either requiring KAM would be a good idea, or it would be a bad idea - CG already knows this based on their data, and stomping your foot and saying "if you do X, no more money from me CG!" does nothing - they already have the data on this and one rando on the forums having a fit won't affect it either way.
  • LorDClockaN
    6 posts Member
    edited May 4
    If CG requires KAM for GL Kenobi, that would mean that they will lose money because a LOT less people will not be whaling on GL Kenobi because they don't have KAM. I also don't have it and would really like for it to NOT be a requirement

    Also I'm still waiting for 4.May celebration pack in inbox :D
    Post edited by LorDClockaN on
  • Jedi, Jedi Council (abilities will affect these not Jedi), Galactic Republic

    GK, Nego, Aayla, Mace, Bo-Katan

    Hondo! Darth Maul, Zam Wessel, Cody, Grievous Ship?

    JKA (GAS for Lord Vader later), GMY, Grievous, Old-Ben, Clone Wars Chewie


    Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon Vs Darth Maul

    Obi & Ani versus murder worms & Zam
    Or
    Kenobi & Hondo versus Maul and Savage (Ventress could be instead of Hondo)(New Maul model used for GL Maul)

    Bo-Katan & Obi-Wan escape Mandalore


    Kenobi versus GG (So uncivilised move)

    Order 66 Cody and clones versus Kenobi,
    Clones versus Aayla
    Clones versus GMY & Clone Wars Chewie

    Kenobi versus JKA (High Ground Ultimate move)

    I don't think there will be many Jedi as we'll get a new tag and farming them will be a separate task rather than a happy double win.
  • Vendi1983
    4628 posts Member
    No Jango?
  • TVF
    28813 posts Member
    there always one guy.
    And you are that guy today.

    "today"
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  • TVF
    28813 posts Member
    Also I'm still waiting for 4.May celebration pack in inbox :D

    Hey I'm still waiting for a time machine too!
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  • khdelboy
    622 posts Member
    edited May 4
    Think they’ll keep GG’s ship for the darkside GL.

    Cody and Qui Gon Jinn seems to be more likely as they both have very close ties with Obi Wan. I would be disappointed if they aren’t included.

    As for the GR Jedi, anyone is possible. Even Kit Fisto, Guardian and Consular.

    KAM would not be required... hopefully.

    Maul was already used for SEE. Maybe taken further and need to be R7/R8. Same wise for JKA but he was already a R7 requirement but there have been crossovers in the last four GLs.

    Jango Fett would be a good shout.

    One new toon: possibly one of the Bad Batch but seems unlikely. It will not be Hondo. (My prediction!) it could be Commander Ahsako Tano?
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