May the 4th reward - fairness?

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  • Never heard of carvana mate. So they probably could but no ones heard of it. Not my point though is it.

    Just to be clear. fairness. Remove probability from packs. Be clear.
  • CCyrilS
    5398 posts Member
    Never heard of carvana mate. So they probably could but no ones heard of it. Not my point though is it.

    Just to be clear. fairness. Remove probability from packs. Be clear.

    so no more Pokémon cards either?
  • TVF
    29532 posts Member
    Just to be clear. fairness. Remove probability from packs. Be clear.

    How is it unfair? You don't have to buy it.
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  • CCyrilS
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    TVF wrote: »
    Then don't let your kids have your credit card and make purchases. Would you let you kid go to the mall with your card?

    Because they might bring you back a six pack.

    or you might get 4 of the six by the time they get home. That's your real life probability example
  • TVF
    29532 posts Member
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Never heard of carvana mate. So they probably could but no ones heard of it. Not my point though is it.

    Just to be clear. fairness. Remove probability from packs. Be clear.

    so no more Pokémon cards either?

    I got one of Jacen Solo yesterday!
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  • ImaSmakya
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    Just so I understand what point your trying to make. When you buy something, (not gamble) you get what you pay for? I suppose you are saying is gambling? Does that not require a license?

    With loot boxes (call them what you will) in any game like this, there is almost always chance involved which by definition is gambling. As far as I know, only crystals and some of the resource (Training droids) purchases are "this is exactly what you are going to get" type of purchase. Every other purchase has some sort of risk/reward element to it and that is not likely going to change until some regulatory body forces them to change it.
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  • TVF
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    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    Just so I understand what point your trying to make. When you buy something, (not gamble) you get what you pay for? I suppose you are saying is gambling? Does that not require a license?

    With loot boxes (call them what you will) in any game like this, there is almost always chance involved which by definition is gambling. As far as I know, only crystals and some of the resource (Training droids) purchases are "this is exactly what you are going to get" type of purchase. Every other purchase has some sort of risk/reward element to it and that is not likely going to change until some regulatory body forces them to change it.

    There's plenty of other examples beyond the ones you listed. Don't confuse the issue.
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  • TVF
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    CCyrilS wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Then don't let your kids have your credit card and make purchases. Would you let you kid go to the mall with your card?

    Because they might bring you back a six pack.

    or you might get 4 of the six by the time they get home. That's your real life probability example

    Still ahead 4!
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  • ImaSmakya
    696 posts Member
    TVF wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    Just so I understand what point your trying to make. When you buy something, (not gamble) you get what you pay for? I suppose you are saying is gambling? Does that not require a license?

    With loot boxes (call them what you will) in any game like this, there is almost always chance involved which by definition is gambling. As far as I know, only crystals and some of the resource (Training droids) purchases are "this is exactly what you are going to get" type of purchase. Every other purchase has some sort of risk/reward element to it and that is not likely going to change until some regulatory body forces them to change it.

    There's plenty of other examples beyond the ones you listed. Don't confuse the issue.

    Sorry, my intent was not to confuse you.
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  • TVF
    29532 posts Member
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    Just so I understand what point your trying to make. When you buy something, (not gamble) you get what you pay for? I suppose you are saying is gambling? Does that not require a license?

    With loot boxes (call them what you will) in any game like this, there is almost always chance involved which by definition is gambling. As far as I know, only crystals and some of the resource (Training droids) purchases are "this is exactly what you are going to get" type of purchase. Every other purchase has some sort of risk/reward element to it and that is not likely going to change until some regulatory body forces them to change it.

    There's plenty of other examples beyond the ones you listed. Don't confuse the issue.

    Sorry, my intent was not to confuse you.

    I'm not the one that is confused, since I am right.
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  • CCyrilS
    5398 posts Member
    TVF wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Then don't let your kids have your credit card and make purchases. Would you let you kid go to the mall with your card?

    Because they might bring you back a six pack.

    or you might get 4 of the six by the time they get home. That's your real life probability example

    Still ahead 4!

    8 on double drops day. But ppl still gotta complain
  • TVF
    29532 posts Member
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Then don't let your kids have your credit card and make purchases. Would you let you kid go to the mall with your card?

    Because they might bring you back a six pack.

    or you might get 4 of the six by the time they get home. That's your real life probability example

    Still ahead 4!

    8 on double drops day. But ppl still gotta complain

    The mall has double drops? That's great!

    Too bad there aren't malls anymore.
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  • ImaSmakya
    696 posts Member
    TVF wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    Just so I understand what point your trying to make. When you buy something, (not gamble) you get what you pay for? I suppose you are saying is gambling? Does that not require a license?

    With loot boxes (call them what you will) in any game like this, there is almost always chance involved which by definition is gambling. As far as I know, only crystals and some of the resource (Training droids) purchases are "this is exactly what you are going to get" type of purchase. Every other purchase has some sort of risk/reward element to it and that is not likely going to change until some regulatory body forces them to change it.

    There's plenty of other examples beyond the ones you listed. Don't confuse the issue.

    Sorry, my intent was not to confuse you.

    I'm not the one that is confused, since I am right.

    Well since the only thing you've added to the conversation other than six packs and Pokémon cards is "Don't buy packs", I will agree that you are right.
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  • Defenderbuss
    81 posts Member
    edited May 5
    I remember double dropping at a rave. I knew exactly what was in them to. The next person didn’t though.
  • TVF
    29532 posts Member
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    Just so I understand what point your trying to make. When you buy something, (not gamble) you get what you pay for? I suppose you are saying is gambling? Does that not require a license?

    With loot boxes (call them what you will) in any game like this, there is almost always chance involved which by definition is gambling. As far as I know, only crystals and some of the resource (Training droids) purchases are "this is exactly what you are going to get" type of purchase. Every other purchase has some sort of risk/reward element to it and that is not likely going to change until some regulatory body forces them to change it.

    There's plenty of other examples beyond the ones you listed. Don't confuse the issue.

    Sorry, my intent was not to confuse you.

    I'm not the one that is confused, since I am right.

    Well since the only thing you've added to the conversation other than six packs and Pokémon cards is "Don't buy packs", I will agree that you are right.

    You listed a few examples of guaranteed packs and said they were the only ones. You are very wrong.
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  • DaarthBrewer
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    Does that not require a license?

    SWGOH is licensed. Straight from Disney.
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  • ImaSmakya
    696 posts Member
    TVF wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    Just so I understand what point your trying to make. When you buy something, (not gamble) you get what you pay for? I suppose you are saying is gambling? Does that not require a license?

    With loot boxes (call them what you will) in any game like this, there is almost always chance involved which by definition is gambling. As far as I know, only crystals and some of the resource (Training droids) purchases are "this is exactly what you are going to get" type of purchase. Every other purchase has some sort of risk/reward element to it and that is not likely going to change until some regulatory body forces them to change it.

    There's plenty of other examples beyond the ones you listed. Don't confuse the issue.

    Sorry, my intent was not to confuse you.

    I'm not the one that is confused, since I am right.

    Well since the only thing you've added to the conversation other than six packs and Pokémon cards is "Don't buy packs", I will agree that you are right.

    You listed a few examples of guaranteed packs and said they were the only ones. You are very wrong.

    And how does that confuse the issue that the vast majority of packs purchased in this game have chance involved. Who cares whether there are 20, 30, 40 other examples, there have been hundreds if not thousands where there was/is no guarantee you will get exactly "this".
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  • TVF
    29532 posts Member
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    ImaSmakya wrote: »
    Just so I understand what point your trying to make. When you buy something, (not gamble) you get what you pay for? I suppose you are saying is gambling? Does that not require a license?

    With loot boxes (call them what you will) in any game like this, there is almost always chance involved which by definition is gambling. As far as I know, only crystals and some of the resource (Training droids) purchases are "this is exactly what you are going to get" type of purchase. Every other purchase has some sort of risk/reward element to it and that is not likely going to change until some regulatory body forces them to change it.

    There's plenty of other examples beyond the ones you listed. Don't confuse the issue.

    Sorry, my intent was not to confuse you.

    I'm not the one that is confused, since I am right.

    Well since the only thing you've added to the conversation other than six packs and Pokémon cards is "Don't buy packs", I will agree that you are right.

    You listed a few examples of guaranteed packs and said they were the only ones. You are very wrong.

    And how does that confuse the issue that the vast majority of packs purchased in this game have chance involved. Who cares whether there are 20, 30, 40 other examples, there have been hundreds if not thousands where there was/is no guarantee you will get exactly "this".

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  • You might not care.
  • TVF
    29532 posts Member
    You might not care.

    No, I do.
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  • So do I.
  • TVF
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    TVF wrote: »
    Just to be clear. fairness. Remove probability from packs. Be clear.

    How is it unfair? You don't have to buy it.

    Still no answer?
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  • Start reading this thread again. If your smart. You will work it out. I’ve provided the reason and the answer to your question in some of my previous responses. If it doesn’t make sense, leave it.
  • CCyrilS
    5398 posts Member
    Start reading this thread again. If your smart. You will work it out. I’ve provided the reason and the answer to your question in some of my previous responses. If it doesn’t make sense, leave it.

    "If your smart" lol
  • Kyno
    29933 posts Moderator
    Start reading this thread again. If your smart. You will work it out. I’ve provided the reason and the answer to your question in some of my previous responses. If it doesn’t make sense, leave it.

    not necessarily.
    Packs containing odds =/= unfair.
    everyone having the same odds = fair.

    clearly stated probabilities = informed decision.

    not wanting packs to contain this kind of stuff is a fair request, and seems like a reasonable suggestion. That doesn't have anything to do with being fair.
  • TVF
    29532 posts Member
    Can always tell when someone realizes they have no leg to stand on.
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  • CCyrilS
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    TVF wrote: »
    Can always tell when someone realizes they have no leg to stand on.

    Like Lt Dan?
  • Defenderbuss
    81 posts Member
    edited May 5
    So when does this become gambling. It’s one or the other
  • TVF
    29532 posts Member
    So when does this become gambling. It’s on or the other

    Gambling is unfair?
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  • TVF
    29532 posts Member
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Can always tell when someone realizes they have no leg to stand on.

    Like Lt Dan?

    The Jedi version or the Sith Lord version?
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