Jedi Master Kenobi

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  • TVF
    36583 posts Member
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    Have CG announced when JMK is getting a buff?

    Worst GL by a fair margin based on early testing. Shocking on defence

    This is sarcasm right? He beats any GL on offense

    That's not what determines whether he's good. If he drops like a rock on defense, he's only good in arena for new players without other GLs.

    I mean, that’s half true. If he can beat any GL on offense, then he’s good. Now if his worth in defense is the issue perhaps it’s the composition. Is KAM on those teams? CAT surely isn’t. Does he have his ultimate? There’s a lot of factors to be considered in that argument for viability on defense

    The poster in question does not have the ult, which makes me very sad.
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  • Jkane
    220 posts Member
    Have CG announced when JMK is getting a buff?

    Worst GL by a fair margin based on early testing. Shocking on defence

    I think it may just be a teeeny bit early to state this categorically.
  • Nauros
    5429 posts Member
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    Have CG announced when JMK is getting a buff?

    Worst GL by a fair margin based on early testing. Shocking on defence

    This is sarcasm right? He beats any GL on offense

    That's not what determines whether he's good. If he drops like a rock on defense, he's only good in arena for new players without other GLs.

    I mean, that’s half true. If he can beat any GL on offense, then he’s good. Now if his worth in defense is the issue perhaps it’s the composition. Is KAM on those teams? CAT surely isn’t. Does he have his ultimate? There’s a lot of factors to be considered in that argument for viability on defense

    My point was that, in general, beating all the other GLs on offense doesn't mean he is good when the same can be achieved with a maximum of 2 other teams. I didn't comment on whether or not it's the case now, and I agree that we don't have enough information to make judgement yet. With his cooldown reset, CAT will be very dangerous.
  • Ravens1113
    5215 posts Member
    Nauros wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
    Have CG announced when JMK is getting a buff?

    Worst GL by a fair margin based on early testing. Shocking on defence

    This is sarcasm right? He beats any GL on offense

    That's not what determines whether he's good. If he drops like a rock on defense, he's only good in arena for new players without other GLs.

    I mean, that’s half true. If he can beat any GL on offense, then he’s good. Now if his worth in defense is the issue perhaps it’s the composition. Is KAM on those teams? CAT surely isn’t. Does he have his ultimate? There’s a lot of factors to be considered in that argument for viability on defense

    My point was that, in general, beating all the other GLs on offense doesn't mean he is good when the same can be achieved with a maximum of 2 other teams. I didn't comment on whether or not it's the case now, and I agree that we don't have enough information to make judgement yet. With his cooldown reset, CAT will be very dangerous.

    Exactly. And many don’t have KAM running who is crucial for his teams too. Now if the AI ONLY targets a tank for the CD reduction, then that may need tweaking to be a random targeting to at least give it a chance for CAT to get her Insta kill running.
  • If he’s a hard counter to every other GL on offense it stands to reason that he would be a wet noodle on defense to maintain the “rock paper scissors” balance CG tries to achieve.
  • MilHanso
    291 posts Member
    If he’s a hard counter to every other GL on offense it stands to reason that he would be a wet noodle on defense to maintain the “rock paper scissors” balance CG tries to achieve.

    you mean rock paper scissors lizard spock, right?
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  • Nauros
    5429 posts Member
    MilHanso wrote: »
    If he’s a hard counter to every other GL on offense it stands to reason that he would be a wet noodle on defense to maintain the “rock paper scissors” balance CG tries to achieve.

    you mean rock paper scissors lizard spock, right?

    Which GL is what?
  • LordDirt
    4995 posts Member
    Nauros wrote: »
    MilHanso wrote: »
    If he’s a hard counter to every other GL on offense it stands to reason that he would be a wet noodle on defense to maintain the “rock paper scissors” balance CG tries to achieve.

    you mean rock paper scissors lizard spock, right?

    Which GL is what?

    Rock (JML), Paper (SEE), Scissors (SLKR), Lizard (Rey), Spock (JMK)
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  • Nauros
    5429 posts Member
    LordDirt wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    MilHanso wrote: »
    If he’s a hard counter to every other GL on offense it stands to reason that he would be a wet noodle on defense to maintain the “rock paper scissors” balance CG tries to achieve.

    you mean rock paper scissors lizard spock, right?

    Which GL is what?

    Rock (JML), Paper (SEE), Scissors (SLKR), Lizard (Rey), Spock (JMK)

    Come on, Rey is obviously scissors because of her two lightsabers, although Anakin is the original lightsaber scissors.
  • LordDirt
    4995 posts Member
    But SLKR slices and dices. Plus Rey looks more like a lizard. B)
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  • TVF
    36583 posts Member
    LordDirt wrote: »
    But SLKR slices and dices. Plus Rey looks more like a lizard. B)

    A beautiful lizard.

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  • Eweff
    400 posts Member
    TVF wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    But SLKR slices and dices. Plus Rey looks more like a lizard. B)

    A beautiful lizard.

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  • rdufield
    115 posts Member
    Is he working like intended??
    He's horrible on defense even with ultimate had a shardmate drop out of top 50 with him.
    Hopefully somebody is already on this to fix it. If not please fix it asap
  • Every GL is horrible on defence if the rest of the shard have multiple GLs
  • Every GL is horrible on defence if the rest of the shard have multiple GLs

    Not that horrible.

  • This is like a carbon copy of every new GL release. Just give it a couple of weeks to settle in and let people try out and learn best comps before crying foul.
  • Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Every GL is horrible on defence if the rest of the shard have multiple GLs

    Not that horrible.
    How so? If people own SLKR, SEE and JML, what can you possibly hold with?
  • TVF
    36583 posts Member
    Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Every GL is horrible on defence if the rest of the shard have multiple GLs

    Not that horrible.
    How so? If people own SLKR, SEE and JML, what can you possibly hold with?

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  • Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Every GL is horrible on defence if the rest of the shard have multiple GLs

    Not that horrible.
    How so? If people own SLKR, SEE and JML, what can you possibly hold with?

    I don’t remember another GL that didn’t hold on D against Shaak+clones.
  • rdufield wrote: »
    Is he working like intended??
    He's horrible on defense even with ultimate had a shardmate drop out of top 50 with him.
    Hopefully somebody is already on this to fix it. If not please fix it asap

    Lol, doesn't everyone attack the new GL? Arena is one of the only places to test out the Meta and counters. If your shardmate is worried about rank, I don't recommend leaving JMK on Def until others start showing up in larger volume.
  • Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Every GL is horrible on defence if the rest of the shard have multiple GLs

    Not that horrible.
    How so? If people own SLKR, SEE and JML, what can you possibly hold with?

    I don’t remember another GL that didn’t hold on D against Shaak+clones.
    I don’t see the relevance. All GLs are beatable. Doesn’t matter by what.
  • Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Every GL is horrible on defence if the rest of the shard have multiple GLs

    Not that horrible.
    How so? If people own SLKR, SEE and JML, what can you possibly hold with?

    I don’t remember another GL that didn’t hold on D against Shaak+clones.
    I don’t see the relevance. All GLs are beatable. Doesn’t matter by what.

    The relevance is that no other GL were beatable with a team like shaak/clones.

    I agree that every GLs have counters, but shaak/clones, that’s a kick in the nuts for a GL lol.
  • Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Every GL is horrible on defence if the rest of the shard have multiple GLs

    Not that horrible.
    How so? If people own SLKR, SEE and JML, what can you possibly hold with?

    I don’t remember another GL that didn’t hold on D against Shaak+clones.
    I don’t see the relevance. All GLs are beatable. Doesn’t matter by what.

    The relevance is that no other GL were beatable with a team like shaak/clones.

    I agree that every GLs have counters, but shaak/clones, that’s a kick in the nuts for a GL lol.
    Can IT beat JMK?

    Can Vader?
  • Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Every GL is horrible on defence if the rest of the shard have multiple GLs

    Not that horrible.
    How so? If people own SLKR, SEE and JML, what can you possibly hold with?

    I don’t remember another GL that didn’t hold on D against Shaak+clones.
    I don’t see the relevance. All GLs are beatable. Doesn’t matter by what.

    The relevance is that no other GL were beatable with a team like shaak/clones.

    I agree that every GLs have counters, but shaak/clones, that’s a kick in the nuts for a GL lol.
    Can IT beat JMK?

    Can Vader?

    Vader with Wat and Thrawn, which are legendary and TB toon.

    Good point for IT. But if I’m not mistaken it’s IT with Dark Trooper and/or Moff. Which were recently added toons. Shaak/clones on the other hands that can beat JMK right out of the gate…
    I stand with my kick in the nuts 😅
  • Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Every GL is horrible on defence if the rest of the shard have multiple GLs

    Not that horrible.
    How so? If people own SLKR, SEE and JML, what can you possibly hold with?

    I don’t remember another GL that didn’t hold on D against Shaak+clones.
    I don’t see the relevance. All GLs are beatable. Doesn’t matter by what.

    The relevance is that no other GL were beatable with a team like shaak/clones.

    I agree that every GLs have counters, but shaak/clones, that’s a kick in the nuts for a GL lol.

    Is this a reliable counter or something that happened ? I guess it’s a ‘let’s focus Rex so fives can sacrifice’ situation ?
  • Granolo
    214 posts Member
    edited June 2021
    Starslayer wrote: »

    Is this a reliable counter or something that happened ? I guess it’s a ‘let’s focus Rex so fives can sacrifice’ situation ?

    As I've seen, it relies on 5s sacrifice, because JMK's team usually just jumps around hitting everyone. It's the same with the GAS counter. Maybe they'll tweak the AI so it doesn't triggers the sacrifice every single time, because as far as I've seen, they usually do.
  • Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Wolfcast1e wrote: »
    Every GL is horrible on defence if the rest of the shard have multiple GLs

    Not that horrible.
    How so? If people own SLKR, SEE and JML, what can you possibly hold with?

    I don’t remember another GL that didn’t hold on D against Shaak+clones.
    I don’t see the relevance. All GLs are beatable. Doesn’t matter by what.

    The relevance is that no other GL were beatable with a team like shaak/clones.

    I agree that every GLs have counters, but shaak/clones, that’s a kick in the nuts for a GL lol.
    Can IT beat JMK?

    Can Vader?

    Vader with Wat and Thrawn, which are legendary and TB toon.

    Good point for IT. But if I’m not mistaken it’s IT with Dark Trooper and/or Moff. Which were recently added toons. Shaak/clones on the other hands that can beat JMK right out of the gate…
    I stand with my kick in the nuts 😅

    Nope, Troopers don't need Dark Trooper or Gideon to beat SEE
  • rdufield
    115 posts Member
    This is like a carbon copy of every new GL release. Just give it a couple of weeks to settle in and let people try out and learn best comps before crying foul.

    Pretty sure it's the fixes they make after there releases like slkr that makes them better
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