[MEGA] Road Ahead: July 2021

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  • skyguy4645 wrote: »
    why is Padme CAT counter to gls more legitimate than Vader wat Thrawn counter?
    if its not, nerf it b4 everyone invests their time money, and resources into CAT

    or wait until everyone invests their time money and resources into CAT and show us your just doing these nerfs for profit only

    I think you answered your own question there. If CG applies the nerf bat to CAT, it'll be after the money and resources are spent on her.
  • WookieWookie
    1460 posts Member
    edited August 2021
    I agree with OP, not at all expecting a full refund, which as mentioned would interfere with the GLs they were used to obtain.

    It's also surprising that Kylo is getting his fourth buff (AI tweak, presumably to keep him from losing to non GL counters with GAS and fives aka the Rex zarris team), but JML is not getting any buffs, despite his team (even the recommended synergy units per CG) getting hit with the nerf bat, which effectively makes him significantly worse as his role was as a tank, and he relied on the soon to be nerfed non GL attackers in his team to actually do the heavy lifting. Would be nice to see JML get an offense buff (or his ultimate buff increased) to make up for the loss in offensive capabilities of GAS and JML, else he (as a GL) will have a much harder time beating other GLs.
  • Rath_Tarr
    4944 posts Member
    skyguy4645 wrote: »
    why is Padme CAT counter to gls more legitimate than Vader wat Thrawn counter?
    if its not, nerf it b4 everyone invests their time money, and resources into CAT

    or wait until everyone invests their time money and resources into CAT and show us your just doing these nerfs for profit only

    The bottom line; is this about the integrity of the game? or money?
    I will unlock CAT next Conquest for $0.
    Many people have already unlocked CAT for $0.
    All of those players.unlocked Padme and Thrawn long ago, most of them probably for $0.
  • Rath_Tarr wrote: »
    skyguy4645 wrote: »
    why is Padme CAT counter to gls more legitimate than Vader wat Thrawn counter?
    if its not, nerf it b4 everyone invests their time money, and resources into CAT

    or wait until everyone invests their time money and resources into CAT and show us your just doing these nerfs for profit only

    The bottom line; is this about the integrity of the game? or money?
    I will unlock CAT next Conquest for $0.
    Many people have already unlocked CAT for $0.
    All of those players.unlocked Padme and Thrawn long ago, most of them probably for $0.

    Good for you.. You may not have spent but others would of - why else does CG release stuff? Where does their revenue come from.?

    So if people get the likes of Thrawn or Padme for free, then it's OK for CG to nerf them further down the line? Is that what you're saying?
  • AlexanderG wrote: »
    Rath_Tarr wrote: »
    skyguy4645 wrote: »
    why is Padme CAT counter to gls more legitimate than Vader wat Thrawn counter?
    if its not, nerf it b4 everyone invests their time money, and resources into CAT

    or wait until everyone invests their time money and resources into CAT and show us your just doing these nerfs for profit only

    The bottom line; is this about the integrity of the game? or money?
    I will unlock CAT next Conquest for $0.
    Many people have already unlocked CAT for $0.
    All of those players.unlocked Padme and Thrawn long ago, most of them probably for $0.

    Good for you.. You may not have spent but others would of - why else does CG release stuff? Where does their revenue come from.?

    So if people get the likes of Thrawn or Padme for free, then it's OK for CG to nerf them further down the line? Is that what you're saying?

    I think he's saying that CAT isn't a huge revenue generator, so there's nothing to "wait for".
  • Iy4oy4s
    2918 posts Member
    CG no longer believes in compensation.

    Cant argue with this.

    It would be pretty great if they did some sort of gift package since they are changing so much and negating so much of our investments. I would love to say that Im hopful for something like that, but this is CG we are talking about here and judging by the past, we will get nothing and like it.
  • DuneSeaFarmer
    3525 posts Member
    edited August 2021
    Based on what we know so far, will the Luke squads still dominate Arena? I am 5 disc's from GLReys leg skill completion, but facing those squads now is no go for me. Is there some grand enhancement coming with the leg skill? As is facing teams like mine now is a coin toss.
  • Nauros
    5419 posts Member
    Based on what we know so far, will the Luke squads still dominate Arena? I am 5 disc's from GLReys leg skill completion, but facing those squads now is no go for me. Is there some grand enhancement coming with the leg skill? As is facing teams like mine now is a coin toss.

    If you mean the ultimate, yes, there is a very significant improvement for Rey. Tip for mirrors: hold your ultimate until the opposing Rey uses it. Luke's ultimate is pretty much useless in arena, though.
  • SWBSD
    57 posts Member
    So if I counted right from the RA post, there were essentially 15 characters nerfed, correct?

    If that’s the case, why not push out to those who have those characters a one-time-use tool that lets them reset those characters and reacquire the resources used? One time only, all or nothing reset, and only those characters. Add the caveat that if one of those characters were required to unlock another character, the reset only goes back to the minimum needed for that unlock (similar for if hyperspace bundle was purchased).

    Gives folks the opportunity to correct for the new rules (because the RA changes are a change to the rules of the game), keep the value of their time & $ investments (because they DO decrease the value of those characters), and generate some good will w/ the players.

    At the end of the day, reading this thread has led me to believe those are the biggest complaints; the rules changed, players are facing a loss in investment, and CG’s customer service isn’t as satisfactory as it probably could be.

  • Nauros wrote: »
    Based on what we know so far, will the Luke squads still dominate Arena? I am 5 disc's from GLReys leg skill completion, but facing those squads now is no go for me. Is there some grand enhancement coming with the leg skill? As is facing teams like mine now is a coin toss.

    If you mean the ultimate, yes, there is a very significant improvement for Rey. Tip for mirrors: hold your ultimate until the opposing Rey uses it. Luke's ultimate is pretty much useless in arena, though.

    Thanks
  • Nauros wrote: »
    Based on what we know so far, will the Luke squads still dominate Arena? I am 5 disc's from GLReys leg skill completion, but facing those squads now is no go for me. Is there some grand enhancement coming with the leg skill? As is facing teams like mine now is a coin toss.

    If you mean the ultimate, yes, there is a very significant improvement for Rey. Tip for mirrors: hold your ultimate until the opposing Rey uses it. Luke's ultimate is pretty much useless in arena, though.

    What is the Rey improvement?
  • LynxVJ
    136 posts Member
    Nauros wrote: »
    If you mean the ultimate, yes, there is a very significant improvement for Rey. Tip for mirrors: hold your ultimate until the opposing Rey uses it. Luke's ultimate is pretty much useless in arena, though.

    Huhhh??? I can get no 1 in arena swimming through the sea of JMK thanks to JML's lead and ulti.
  • TVF
    36418 posts Member
    Just ignore people that think his lead and ultimate are bad.
    I need a new message here. https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • Nauros wrote: »
    Based on what we know so far, will the Luke squads still dominate Arena? I am 5 disc's from GLReys leg skill completion, but facing those squads now is no go for me. Is there some grand enhancement coming with the leg skill? As is facing teams like mine now is a coin toss.

    If you mean the ultimate, yes, there is a very significant improvement for Rey. Tip for mirrors: hold your ultimate until the opposing Rey uses it. Luke's ultimate is pretty much useless in arena, though.

    What is the Rey improvement?

    I think they just mean Rey gets a large boost from her Ultimate, not that Rey’s Ultimate was boosted here.

    Still not sure how that new Rey Whirlwind change works.
  • Nauros
    5419 posts Member
    TargetEadu wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    Based on what we know so far, will the Luke squads still dominate Arena? I am 5 disc's from GLReys leg skill completion, but facing those squads now is no go for me. Is there some grand enhancement coming with the leg skill? As is facing teams like mine now is a coin toss.

    If you mean the ultimate, yes, there is a very significant improvement for Rey. Tip for mirrors: hold your ultimate until the opposing Rey uses it. Luke's ultimate is pretty much useless in arena, though.

    What is the Rey improvement?

    I think they just mean Rey gets a large boost from her Ultimate, not that Rey’s Ultimate was boosted here.

    Still not sure how that new Rey Whirlwind change works.

    Yes, the question was whether there is an enhancement with the ultimate, so I interpreted it that way.
  • SerylT2
    146 posts Member
    What is the Rey improvement?

    Her whirlwind will now scale in damage to her relic levels making it a potentially far more devastating attack.

  • SerylT2 wrote: »
    What is the Rey improvement?

    Her whirlwind will now scale in damage to her relic levels making it a potentially far more devastating attack.

    Potentially? Unless I misread it (possible, that is some serious word salad), at r7, she's going to deal 2×(1 + 0.07×7)=2.98x massive damage to target. She currently deals 3x. So at r8 (3.12x), she'll have a very slight boost. At r7, a very slight nerf. Basically, unchanged.
  • SerylT2
    146 posts Member
    Potentially? Unless I misread it (possible, that is some serious word salad), at r7, she's going to deal 2×(1 + 0.07×7)=2.98x massive damage to target. She currently deals 3x. So at r8 (3.12x), she'll have a very slight boost. At r7, a very slight nerf. Basically, unchanged.

    @Ragnarok_COTF I have not done the math on it at all, so if that is the case then that is a fairly pathetic buff I agree. They probably intend for her 'Buff' to be at their treasured Relic 9 :D

  • Let’s hope the technical issues they have developing new content also delays relic 9….
  • SerylT2 wrote: »
    Potentially? Unless I misread it (possible, that is some serious word salad), at r7, she's going to deal 2×(1 + 0.07×7)=2.98x massive damage to target. She currently deals 3x. So at r8 (3.12x), she'll have a very slight boost. At r7, a very slight nerf. Basically, unchanged.

    @Ragnarok_COTF I have not done the math on it at all, so if that is the case then that is a fairly pathetic buff I agree. They probably intend for her 'Buff' to be at their treasured Relic 9 :D

    no relic 9 is the magical relic level where JML becomes a GL murdering beast to compensate for his team getting nerfed :joy:

  • no relic 9 is the magical relic level where JML becomes a GL murdering beast to compensate for his team getting nerfed :joy:

    Dream on..
    Make Bronzium autoplay opening an option.
  • I probably missed it, but does anyone know when exactly they're refunding the Relic 8 mats from Vader, GAS, etc.? I need the R8 on Piett for the new Executor and would rather just transfer the R8 I have on Vader. I really hope they don't do the refund after the Executor event -_-
  • dratas wrote: »
    I probably missed it, but does anyone know when exactly they're refunding the Relic 8 mats from Vader, GAS, etc.? I need the R8 on Piett for the new Executor and would rather just transfer the R8 I have on Vader. I really hope they don't do the refund after the Executor event -_-

    don't hold out hope.. CG is not known for planning ahead that nice for any of the players.. After all, where would they make any real money from fake crystals to get a character to r8 that would actually help the player base?

    Remember the fiasco with GMY's leader zeta and 2ish weeks later Bastilla was released and made GMY's leader ability moot??


    yeah..
  • Are we going to see conquest start up again soon?

    I know there is a delay due to (i don't remember) but its letting a little long in the tooth now don't you think? Hopefully we see that change in the GW screen soon.
  • Joebo720
    643 posts Member
    edited August 2021
    I'm trying to stay positive with the mindset the downtime between the next two will be much shorter this time if they want to stick with the once a month cadence. But yeah, time for that preview phase.
  • MKHolloway wrote: »
    Are we going to see conquest start up again soon?

    I know there is a delay due to (i don't remember) but its letting a little long in the tooth now don't you think? Hopefully we see that change in the GW screen soon.

    I think see CG are changing it up a bit and Maul is being added as a reward. I don't think CG have said when it's up again but realistically I'd think the fabled month of August is probably conquest-free. Alas.
  • SotaDraken wrote: »
    dratas wrote: »
    I probably missed it, but does anyone know when exactly they're refunding the Relic 8 mats from Vader, GAS, etc.? I need the R8 on Piett for the new Executor and would rather just transfer the R8 I have on Vader. I really hope they don't do the refund after the Executor event -_-

    don't hold out hope.. CG is not known for planning ahead that nice for any of the players.. After all, where would they make any real money from fake crystals to get a character to r8 that would actually help the player base?

    Remember the fiasco with GMY's leader zeta and 2ish weeks later Bastilla was released and made GMY's leader ability moot??


    yeah..

    They literally say in the RA that they're refunding R8s on Vader, Gen Sky, JKL.
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