[MEGA] Road Ahead: July 2021

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  • E3P0 wrote: »
    If you're going to do a video format, fine. But PLEASE, don't omit key points from the text (there is absolutely no mention of relic 9 there, plus no explanation for why all the abilities listed are being altered).

    I agree completely. The text should be more thorough than the video.
  • CaptainRex
    2840 posts Member
    BH capital ship...cries in Hondo
    #CloneHelmets4Life...VICTORY!!!! :smiley: "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." The more you tighten your grip, CG/EA, the more whales will slip through your fingers (and go F2P or quit).
  • Wow. The dislikes on the video are about to pass the likes. I was just hoping for an updated hyperdrive bundle. Are there any plans for that Kyno? I click on that non removable icon every day, but alas, it never changes. I have all of those toons, just need some of the new shiny ones and I like to shop at Sam's, in bulk.
    Deceptacles / HRancor / HAAT / 6* Sith / No ticket quotas / Discord
  • APX_919
    2468 posts Member
    Syfoyoda66 wrote: »
    Worst decision ever CG. You guys say you need to plan “long term” but these bad updates are gonna make people quit. I didn’t know your slogan was “nerf and nothin”

    Ftfy
    "Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen...mostly"
  • "We are not introducing two GL, because we care that the players can collect both".
    And how to introduce a second legend with such requirements on the flagship - that's it, the care is gone?
    And how does BB relate to Vord Vader?
    Is everything all right with your head there?
  • Kyno wrote: »
    Boycotting Vader.

    BB were wrong to require 2000 kyros for 5 toons. That's literally the cost of all a GL's requirements + a GL.

    There was no way I wanted to gear up BB anyway. Now you're making BB a prerequisite for LV?

    I was willing to gear some toons that I would not normally gear, like Tuskens or BH. I am not willing to gear BB for access to a single GL. I'll go for GLEE instead: much better value, I've already made a lot of progress on the side while working on other things, and I get to work on the new Fleet meta at the same time.

    Sorry, CG, you jumped the shark. It's over.

    But you dont think its jumping the shark to say you would gear tuskens over BB?

    I think its just the principal. Bad batch is a single shard drop still. Feels forced while tuskan is like a rose tiko.
  • I really enjoyed this new format! Doha is quite the Dad joke expert. Keep it up!
  • wilhud
    38 posts Member
    I fully agree with you both that it will not happen. But the question I'm posing is do you think it should happen? Does making those characters less powerful in game make you like the game any less or do you not really care, so long as there are different tiers and you have characters in the top tier?

    For me personally, I prefer characters like Vader, GAS, GMY, JKL, Revan and even Han Solo or Boba Fett over the characters we currently have as GLs. GL Kenobi would probably be the one exception. I get that the newer movies/characters take precedence over the older characters, but it just seems out of balance. Or am I just looking at this from an old man's perspective and these newer characters are super popular with fans and deserve to be at the top?
  • MaruMaru
    2974 posts Member
    edited July 2021
    Legend91 wrote: »
    MaruMaru wrote: »
    This thing was entirely unnecesary and it trivializes the raid that puts an exclusive piece for r8. Now everything needs it all of a sudden with 0 supply for it.

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    1) pick your credit card
    2) buy crystals
    3) go to weekly shipments
    4) buy 15 IDs for 2700 crystals
    5) since there's a high chance that this will not even cover your weekly Aero income (unless you mostly ignore CPit and just sign up) go to daily shipments and buy g12 gear to scrap (like 15 medpacs for 450 crystals)
    6) since farming g12+ gear with 3x fleet energy refreshs is also not providing enough Zinbiddles, make sure to buy them for crystals aswell

    Of course I could also farm normal 9F...if there wasn't that BB asking for 4 chars being farmed on LS nodes at the same time taking away 720 energy with all their nodes being refreshed one time. Oh wait..actually I do spend some energy on 9F! Like 80 spare energy which is like...1.6 bayonets? YAY! Just 181.4 left!!!

    Bottom line:
    Doing well in CPit is pointless if you're not a spender. But you already know that. Oh and relicing chars to R8 is also pointless (except for some exceptions like GAS, JKL or Vader or the obvious GL requirements) since you gonna bloat your GP, have a higher chance of getting an opponent that has a GL more than you as a result of the bloat and....well, lose the GAC match because CG wants it to be a "who has more GLs" check.

    Indeed xD

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  • Artumas
    324 posts Member
    If you actually read the character changes, the only characters getting DIRECTLY nerfed are Wat, the GL Exceptions and maybe in a small sense Vader.

    Most of the changes are significantly more than made up for, and the ONLY notable GL counters being affected are Thrawn (completely destroyed) and in the couple matchups that actually cared, GAS losing cooldown increases. Seriously, almost none of these changes were actually used for GL counters, and most of them aren't being directly hit.

    JKL was used to blind and deal damage - That's not being changed.
    GAS was used to manipulate SLKR's AI, that's not being changed.
    Imp troopers are completely unaffected, and due to weird wording, I have no clue how SEE's change even works. (does it only affect undispellable buffs that are present at battle start, like GAS taunt and stuff? Because I swear that's how it reads.)

    Vader v Rey is the only real GL counter that's been very notably hit. And that's because of Thrawn and Wat.
    In fact, Rey's just massively been buffed by almost all of these changes, and I have no clue why, when all the other GLs are being barely touched.

    At first, it looks like a very significant change, but...
    if you actually read all the changes, and look at what's ACTUALLY changing, and how these characters are used in their current teams....

    Thrawn and Wat are the only ones really being significantly hit by this.
    And 501st GAS is randomly getting massively buffed for unknown reasons.

    This really isn't as bad as it looks at first glance, tbqh.
  • @Kyno

    I just want you to know that I appreciate knowing that the event does require 7* ships to complete. I still maintain that the r8 character requirement is ludicrous, but even if it's not the most outrageous thing about the event, it was a problem that the event appeared to require only 4* ships.

    This brings up something else, though.

    If you only have to have 4* ships to access the first/easiest tier (for clarity, let's remember that this might not even be enough to unlock), and the requirements increase as a player progresses through the tiers, then in some sense that makes the character requirements worse.

    After all, if requirements are increasing with progress, the event could have required a g11 Boba to see/access/complete the easiest tier, but r8 to complete the event.

    g11 for tier 1
    g12 for tier 2
    r1 for tier 3
    ...etc...

    would have kept the value of the ships closer to the value of the pilots. Not nearly close enough, IMO, but still closer.

    Again, I appreciate CG making the change to the announcement and clarifying 7* ships will be required. It does minimize one issue I have with the event. But it does raise new questions and it does not eliminate the issue that in a Fleet event the ship requirements are trivially unimportant compared with the toon requirements.

    That's sad. And it's still a problem.
  • Jackow
    16 posts Member
    edited July 2021
    Ally wrote: »
    Another new capital ship? where we already have cap ships without full fleets?

    Yeah it's time for a bunch of New ships just Release a few without a pilot it cant take up that much time.
    We cant even fill up every capital ship with a full squad because we dont got enough ships...

    A-wing
    B-wing
    LAAT
    Droid tri fighter
    Naboo starfighter
    Resistance Bomber
    Tie interceptor

    Just to name a few famous ones.
  • Changes to characters I'll have to wait and see, but from the looks of it I'll likely be dropping further in arena with these changes, so I'm not thrilled. Guess I'll just have to rearrange my farming plans... Again. 🙄

    Changes may also effect my GACs, but that's not my main focus on this game, so I don't mind potentially taking a few extra losses. Not the best rewards in the game for the effort anyways.

    Atrocious requirements for the new capital ship, but I hope with the announcement of R9 it means R8 becomes more accessible... We will see.

    Typical 🤮 GL requirements with characters that make no sense, unless the next few BB episodes shows the team working for Vader I guess? Just another character I'll file under: not getting for over a year.

    My real concern though, is conquest. It looks as though some of those off-meta counters may no longer work against GLs, which could potentially mean lesser amounts of teams working against those GL bosses. And while getting rid of conquest coins for changing data disks is good, I fear changing it to conquest energy is going to cause f2p players like myself to use precious crystals to refresh energy as a result in order to continue getting the prize boxes we currently earn, lest we run down to the wire trying to scrap across a few more points. Lost conquest battles may have just gotten more costly... Tell me why you couldn't just make it cost a few regular credits to change data disks, or hey, here's a novel concept: make it free. 😐🤦
  • Wow they just made it way harder to counter gls. That'll definitely go on well with the community. And **** those are steep requirements for both of the new things coming. Wonder if the ship is gonna be required for Vader.
  • Requirements for GLs…yeah, they are high, but they are calibrated to have a certain % of the player base unlock on release. That has been the case for all five and I personally don’t have a huge issue even if the r8 means I won’t unlock for a while after release.

    I can even understand that CG wasn’t aware how ignore defense would scale so those abilities need to change.

    I don’t get adding GL to the raid boss text. First, in most cases, it’s unnecessary because covering GLs in those abilities didn’t break the utility of the GL. FBast, Malak…I honestly never noticed those abilities having any effect in GL matchups. But, for Thrawn? It is a massive change that breaks so many non GL GL counters. Fracture is that important of an ability. That is the one change that should not be implemented.
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    @Kyno

    I just want you to know that I appreciate knowing that the event does require 7* ships to complete. I still maintain that the r8 character requirement is ludicrous, but even if it's not the most outrageous thing about the event, it was a problem that the event appeared to require only 4* ships.

    This brings up something else, though.

    If you only have to have 4* ships to access the first/easiest tier (for clarity, let's remember that this might not even be enough to unlock), and the requirements increase as a player progresses through the tiers, then in some sense that makes the character requirements worse.

    After all, if requirements are increasing with progress, the event could have required a g11 Boba to see/access/complete the easiest tier, but r8 to complete the event.

    g11 for tier 1
    g12 for tier 2
    r1 for tier 3
    ...etc...

    would have kept the value of the ships closer to the value of the pilots. Not nearly close enough, IMO, but still closer.

    Again, I appreciate CG making the change to the announcement and clarifying 7* ships will be required. It does minimize one issue I have with the event. But it does raise new questions and it does not eliminate the issue that in a Fleet event the ship requirements are trivially unimportant compared with the toon requirements.

    That's sad. And it's still a problem.

    Yeah, they will make an announcement about the event style this will be later, but I believe the ship requirements are the tier that will unlock. As far as anything beyond that it will be clarified later in a post about the event.
  • Ah I think I figured out how the SEE change is going to hit the IT counter. They gain 1 stack of emperor's trap buff for every IT turn, which can't be dispelled. So after a max of 20 turns that'll put your SEE team at 100% TM and break the TM train for IT.
  • I want to be excited for the new characters, speed grand arena, etc.... but this Road Ahead was depressing.... nerfing GAS, Vader, JKL, etc. sucks!!!
  • Ultra
    10353 posts Moderator
    Rockfan wrote: »
    I want to be excited for the new characters, speed grand arena, etc.... but this Road Ahead was depressing.... nerfing GAS, Vader, JKL, etc. sucks!!!

    Speed Grand Arena sounds fun!
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