I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
we don't know that
i am waiting to reserve judgement on BP until we get more information
Right now i have zero information on what it does, how it works, and how much it costs, and what changes they will do in the game etc
A BP? Why don't they just give us that monthly crystal pack again. It was about 11.99$ or 12.99$, gave you 400 initial crystals and 200 everyday for a month, about 6,000 crystals. One of best deals, jusy had to be patient and log in everyday. probally why they got rid of it
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
we don't know that
i am waiting to reserve judgement on BP until we get more information
Right now i have zero information on what it does, how it works, and how much it costs, and what changes they will do in the game etc
If only there was an RA that was recorded last week to explain all this…
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
we don't know that
i am waiting to reserve judgement on BP until we get more information
Right now i have zero information on what it does, how it works, and how much it costs, and what changes they will do in the game etc
If only there was an RA that was recorded last week to explain all this…
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
we don't know that
i am waiting to reserve judgement on BP until we get more information
Right now i have zero information on what it does, how it works, and how much it costs, and what changes they will do in the game etc
If only there was an RA that was recorded last week to explain all this…
Wow, a battle pass for a game mode that has already been thoroughly ruined. I'm beginning to wonder whether it is some sort of scheme to make the game fail without seeming intentional.
I'll wait and see but every game that has dropped a battle pass that I have played it has been pay or you get no rewards from anything. I'm expecting Conquest characters to be locked behind it, maybe those without it can get some shards but it will be impossible to unlock them.
I'll wait and see but every game that has dropped a battle pass that I have played it has been pay or you get no rewards from anything. I'm expecting Conquest characters to be locked behind it, maybe those without it can get some shards but it will be impossible to unlock them.
Maybe with battlepass, you can halve the feat counters?
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
I have never been in a game while a battle pass was introduced, but any game I have seen with a battle pass, they just give extra stuff, on top of the normal stuff.
The game mode itself is based on character release, and from my understanding any sort of BP will not lock or allow for faster access unlock to Conquest toons.
A BP? Why don't they just give us that monthly crystal pack again. It was about 11.99$ or 12.99$, gave you 400 initial crystals and 200 everyday for a month, about 6,000 crystals. One of best deals, jusy had to be patient and log in everyday. probally why they got rid of it
No it's not. The layout/pattern was not allowed, due to an agreement.
I'll wait and see but every game that has dropped a battle pass that I have played it has been pay or you get no rewards from anything. I'm expecting Conquest characters to be locked behind it, maybe those without it can get some shards but it will be impossible to unlock them.
I have never seen a pass work that way. So your expectations on this may be a little off.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
I have never been in a game while a battle pass was introduced, but any game I have seen with a battle pass, they just give extra stuff, on top of the normal stuff.
The game mode itself is based on character release, and from my understanding any sort of BP will not lock or allow for faster access to Conquest toons.
What is your understanding based on? If it's more than just a guess, it could help remove one of the big fears surrounding the BP.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
I have never been in a game while a battle pass was introduced, but any game I have seen with a battle pass, they just give extra stuff, on top of the normal stuff.
The game mode itself is based on character release, and from my understanding any sort of BP will not lock or allow for faster access to Conquest toons.
What is your understanding based on? If it's more than just a guess, it could help remove one of the big fears surrounding the BP.
Dojas parrots last words before I took him from his cage.
😉
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
I have never been in a game while a battle pass was introduced, but any game I have seen with a battle pass, they just give extra stuff, on top of the normal stuff.
The game mode itself is based on character release, and from my understanding any sort of BP will not lock or allow for faster access to Conquest toons.
What is your understanding based on? If it's more than just a guess, it could help remove one of the big fears surrounding the BP.
Dojas parrots last words before I took him from his cage.
😉
He seems to have some interesting things to say, maybe you should let him post on on the forum. Well, assuming he isn't using Doja's account already.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
I have never been in a game while a battle pass was introduced, but any game I have seen with a battle pass, they just give extra stuff, on top of the normal stuff.
The game mode itself is based on character release, and from my understanding any sort of BP will not lock or allow for faster access to Conquest toons.
What is your understanding based on? If it's more than just a guess, it could help remove one of the big fears surrounding the BP.
Dojas parrots last words before I took him from his cage.
😉
He seems to have some interesting things to say, maybe you should let him post on on the forum. Well, assuming he isn't using Doja's account already.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
I have never been in a game while a battle pass was introduced, but any game I have seen with a battle pass, they just give extra stuff, on top of the normal stuff.
The game mode itself is based on character release, and from my understanding any sort of BP will not lock or allow for faster access to Conquest toons.
What is your understanding based on? If it's more than just a guess, it could help remove one of the big fears surrounding the BP.
Dojas parrots last words before I took him from his cage.
😉
He seems to have some interesting things to say, maybe you should let him post on on the forum. Well, assuming he isn't using Doja's account already.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
I have never been in a game while a battle pass was introduced, but any game I have seen with a battle pass, they just give extra stuff, on top of the normal stuff.
The game mode itself is based on character release, and from my understanding any sort of BP will not lock or allow for faster access to Conquest toons.
What is your understanding based on? If it's more than just a guess, it could help remove one of the big fears surrounding the BP.
Dojas parrots last words before I took him from his cage.
😉
He seems to have some interesting things to say, maybe you should let him post on on the forum. Well, assuming he isn't using Doja's account already.
Hes a slow typer, the arm gets in the way.
Maybe he could record his words on video then
I checked, he doesnt have a phone. I didnt want him calling for help, until we see the RA.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
Today you can get Maul without Battle Pass. Lets see if that changes after this.
I will lay any amount of money you want that the character drop will be gated behind Battle Pass and that is a dramatic change even if "you can still get max grate without purchasing anything" is still technically true.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
Today you can get Maul without Battle Pass. Lets see if that changes after this.
I will lay any amount of money you want that the character drop will be gated behind Battle Pass and that is a dramatic change even if "you can still get max grate without purchasing anything" is still technically true.
From my understanding the character unlock cadence of 3 runs is not changed by the BP.
You can send me all the money, thank you. J/K.
Wanna bet a crisp internet high five? Be warned, I "know" you are incorrect.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
Today you can get Maul without Battle Pass. Lets see if that changes after this.
I will lay any amount of money you want that the character drop will be gated behind Battle Pass and that is a dramatic change even if "you can still get max grate without purchasing anything" is still technically true.
From my understanding the character unlock cadence of 3 runs is not changed by the BP.
You can send me all the money, thank you. J/K.
Wanna bet a crisp internet high five? Be warned, I "know" you are incorrect.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
Today you can get Maul without Battle Pass. Lets see if that changes after this.
I will lay any amount of money you want that the character drop will be gated behind Battle Pass and that is a dramatic change even if "you can still get max grate without purchasing anything" is still technically true.
From my understanding the character unlock cadence of 3 runs is not changed by the BP.
You can send me all the money, thank you. J/K.
Wanna bet a crisp internet high five? Be warned, I "know" you are incorrect.
Wait, saying that the cadence is not changed doesn't actually contradict shards being in the BP. It could also mean that we have to spend crystals for the BP on top/instead of energy refreshes to get them. The cadence (timeframe) would stay the same, only the way to get there would change.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
Today you can get Maul without Battle Pass. Lets see if that changes after this.
I will lay any amount of money you want that the character drop will be gated behind Battle Pass and that is a dramatic change even if "you can still get max grate without purchasing anything" is still technically true.
From my understanding the character unlock cadence of 3 runs is not changed by the BP.
You can send me all the money, thank you. J/K.
Wanna bet a crisp internet high five? Be warned, I "know" you are incorrect.
Wait, saying that the cadence is not changed doesn't actually contradict shards being in the BP. It could also mean that we have to spend crystals for the BP on top/instead of energy refreshes to get them. The cadence (timeframe) would stay the same, only the way to get there would change.
I can only explain my understanding at this time.
Yes there is a possibility that shards could be in the BP structure, but not in an amount that allows a player to unlock early.
From my understanding you do not need the BP to stay within the 3 month cadence.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
Today you can get Maul without Battle Pass. Lets see if that changes after this.
I will lay any amount of money you want that the character drop will be gated behind Battle Pass and that is a dramatic change even if "you can still get max grate without purchasing anything" is still technically true.
From my understanding the character unlock cadence of 3 runs is not changed by the BP.
You can send me all the money, thank you. J/K.
Wanna bet a crisp internet high five? Be warned, I "know" you are incorrect.
Wait, saying that the cadence is not changed doesn't actually contradict shards being in the BP. It could also mean that we have to spend crystals for the BP on top/instead of energy refreshes to get them. The cadence (timeframe) would stay the same, only the way to get there would change.
I can only explain my understanding at this time.
Yes there is a possibility that shards could be in the BP structure, but not in an amount that allows a player to unlock early.
From my understanding you do not need the BP to stay within the 3 month cadence.
Thanks for the clarification, that sounds good. If I get it right, that would mean substituting the currency purchases at most, which sounds like a reasonable return of investment for those who get it.
Hopefully we get the RA soon and get to know the full details.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
Today you can get Maul without Battle Pass. Lets see if that changes after this.
I will lay any amount of money you want that the character drop will be gated behind Battle Pass and that is a dramatic change even if "you can still get max grate without purchasing anything" is still technically true.
From my understanding the character unlock cadence of 3 runs is not changed by the BP.
You can send me all the money, thank you. J/K.
Wanna bet a crisp internet high five? Be warned, I "know" you are incorrect.
Wait, saying that the cadence is not changed doesn't actually contradict shards being in the BP. It could also mean that we have to spend crystals for the BP on top/instead of energy refreshes to get them. The cadence (timeframe) would stay the same, only the way to get there would change.
I can only explain my understanding at this time.
Yes there is a possibility that shards could be in the BP structure, but not in an amount that allows a player to unlock early.
From my understanding you do not need the BP to stay within the 3 month cadence.
Thanks for the clarification, that sounds good. If I get it right, that would mean substituting the currency purchases at most, which sounds like a reasonable return of investment for those who get it.
Hopefully we get the RA soon and get to know the full details.
Yes that sounds like the general idea being expressed.
I hope so too, I'm just trying to walk the line as best I can to help reduce any anxiety.
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
I have never been in a game while a battle pass was introduced, but any game I have seen with a battle pass, they just give extra stuff, on top of the normal stuff.
The game mode itself is based on character release, and from my understanding any sort of BP will not lock or allow for faster access unlock to Conquest toons.
I wanted to avoid names, but now I have to give you an example: Looney Tunes World of Mayhem. With Premium Battle Pass, you get shards for Countess Penelope. Without it, you only get shards for the other members of the aristocrat team, which were already in the game.
If you say that SWGOH will be different, I'll have to believe you. But please understand my fear.
So I looked at AhnaldT's video of a battle pass implementation in another game, and screenshots of other games that implement BP and this is what I learned
there is a free2play track, and pay2play track
Both give you free stuff, p2p gives you more
Which is fine, its no different than buying another pack. Nothing exclusive is locked behind p2p and f2p are getting more stuff than they currently are
I still think its too early to make decisions on battle pass without seeing the details, but like everything in this game that you can purchase, we can choose not to buy it if price per value is not good or the pricing is too high for your individual budget
As long as nothing is gated behind BP (like say marquee unlock is no more and its BP exclusive unlock that requires p2p route), I don't see any problems
I guess comquest 7-9 didn’t bring in enough $$$ lol
as long as you can get max crate without purchasing anything, I don't see the issue
If battle pass becomes a thing, max crate will have crappy rewards for f2p and good rewards will only be acquired by people who buy the pass. That's how it works in other games I've played.
Example: next op toon only appearing in the pass, shard shop currency for people without the pass.
I have never been in a game while a battle pass was introduced, but any game I have seen with a battle pass, they just give extra stuff, on top of the normal stuff.
The game mode itself is based on character release, and from my understanding any sort of BP will not lock or allow for faster access unlock to Conquest toons.
I wanted to avoid names, but now I have to give you an example: Looney Tunes World of Mayhem. With Premium Battle Pass, you get shards for Countess Penelope. Without it, you only get shards for the other members of the aristocrat team, which were already in the game.
If you say that SWGOH will be different, I'll have to believe you. But please understand my fear.
From my understanding this system will not interrupt the f2p path to the Conquest character, but does have additional stuff for the BP path.
So no it doesnt sound like it will be like that.
I know some may disagree, but this game has gone through some pretty good measures to not make things p2w, every character release or game mode is "equally" accessible to both sides of the coin. By no means does this mean everyone can get there or that it is easy to get there, but they have avoided any structures like what you mention there. In the end Conquest seems to be a character release structure and they are keeping that and its cadence (obviously things can change later) the same and looking to build on this to add more layers for players to get more out of it if they choose, without changing the core of what it is.
I'll wait and see but every game that has dropped a battle pass that I have played it has been pay or you get no rewards from anything. I'm expecting Conquest characters to be locked behind it, maybe those without it can get some shards but it will be impossible to unlock them.
I have never seen a pass work that way. So your expectations on this may be a little off.
My experiences from a pass, limited for sure, have been in MSF and Zombieland. Both games gave "good" rewards for ftp and "great" rewards for purchasers. Not sure how Zombieland introduced their BP, but is MSF it was with a new game mode. This worked perfectly because there wasn't a "we used to earn this" argument to be made.
It will definitely be interesting to see what SWGOH does with it. If it reduces the current rewards for ftp that would be bad. But until that happens there is no reason to assume it will. No reason except this is what people do on the interweb.
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we don't know that
i am waiting to reserve judgement on BP until we get more information
Right now i have zero information on what it does, how it works, and how much it costs, and what changes they will do in the game etc
If only there was an RA that was recorded last week to explain all this…
Soon
Should’ve been “already” lol
Don't worry, you will be able to run it all right. You will just need a battle pass to get the rewards.
Maybe with battlepass, you can halve the feat counters?
I have never been in a game while a battle pass was introduced, but any game I have seen with a battle pass, they just give extra stuff, on top of the normal stuff.
The game mode itself is based on character release, and from my understanding any sort of BP will not lock or allow for faster access unlock to Conquest toons.
No it's not. The layout/pattern was not allowed, due to an agreement.
I have never seen a pass work that way. So your expectations on this may be a little off.
What is your understanding based on? If it's more than just a guess, it could help remove one of the big fears surrounding the BP.
Dojas parrots last words before I took him from his cage.
😉
He seems to have some interesting things to say, maybe you should let him post on on the forum. Well, assuming he isn't using Doja's account already.
Hes a slow typer, the arm gets in the way.
Maybe he could record his words on video then
I checked, he doesnt have a phone. I didnt want him calling for help, until we see the RA.
Today you can get Maul without Battle Pass. Lets see if that changes after this.
I will lay any amount of money you want that the character drop will be gated behind Battle Pass and that is a dramatic change even if "you can still get max grate without purchasing anything" is still technically true.
From my understanding the character unlock cadence of 3 runs is not changed by the BP.
You can send me all the money, thank you. J/K.
Wanna bet a crisp internet high five? Be warned, I "know" you are incorrect.
No need to wait - you're clearly from the future.
Wait, saying that the cadence is not changed doesn't actually contradict shards being in the BP. It could also mean that we have to spend crystals for the BP on top/instead of energy refreshes to get them. The cadence (timeframe) would stay the same, only the way to get there would change.
I can only explain my understanding at this time.
Yes there is a possibility that shards could be in the BP structure, but not in an amount that allows a player to unlock early.
From my understanding you do not need the BP to stay within the 3 month cadence.
Thanks for the clarification, that sounds good. If I get it right, that would mean substituting the currency purchases at most, which sounds like a reasonable return of investment for those who get it.
Hopefully we get the RA soon and get to know the full details.
Yes that sounds like the general idea being expressed.
I hope so too, I'm just trying to walk the line as best I can to help reduce any anxiety.
If you say that SWGOH will be different, I'll have to believe you. But please understand my fear.
there is a free2play track, and pay2play track
Both give you free stuff, p2p gives you more
Which is fine, its no different than buying another pack. Nothing exclusive is locked behind p2p and f2p are getting more stuff than they currently are
I still think its too early to make decisions on battle pass without seeing the details, but like everything in this game that you can purchase, we can choose not to buy it if price per value is not good or the pricing is too high for your individual budget
As long as nothing is gated behind BP (like say marquee unlock is no more and its BP exclusive unlock that requires p2p route), I don't see any problems
Its no different than any other pack in the game
From my understanding this system will not interrupt the f2p path to the Conquest character, but does have additional stuff for the BP path.
So no it doesnt sound like it will be like that.
I know some may disagree, but this game has gone through some pretty good measures to not make things p2w, every character release or game mode is "equally" accessible to both sides of the coin. By no means does this mean everyone can get there or that it is easy to get there, but they have avoided any structures like what you mention there. In the end Conquest seems to be a character release structure and they are keeping that and its cadence (obviously things can change later) the same and looking to build on this to add more layers for players to get more out of it if they choose, without changing the core of what it is.
My experiences from a pass, limited for sure, have been in MSF and Zombieland. Both games gave "good" rewards for ftp and "great" rewards for purchasers. Not sure how Zombieland introduced their BP, but is MSF it was with a new game mode. This worked perfectly because there wasn't a "we used to earn this" argument to be made.
It will definitely be interesting to see what SWGOH does with it. If it reduces the current rewards for ftp that would be bad. But until that happens there is no reason to assume it will. No reason except this is what people do on the interweb.