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Alëx1
24 posts Member
edited February 2023
Hey, I wanted to login this morning and it said, I was banned due to repeat (? never heard of anything before?) offense. And I have no idea why. I am Auro II doing okayish in GAC, play solely on most recent iOS, my best Score in cpit is something around 4 mil. I rarely chat with anyone besides guild chat.
515-836-341 is my ally code if that helps. Obviously I feel this is very unaccounted for, I never cheated in any game mode.
Any help would be appreciated.
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    This probably won’t get addressed until tomorrow due to the late hour, but @Ultra may be your best bet to help you out.
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    Thanks for the mention, I tried with „@..“ but nothing happened.
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    Odd, so many people are making posts about getting banned. Heck, I just made one myself.
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    MechaC2 wrote: »
    Odd, so many people are making posts about getting banned. Heck, I just made one myself.

    Yeah, I have absolutely no idea where that came from. I don’t have sick GAC counters that might upset people. The sickest I got is Imperial Troopers with a +20% TM at start to the weakest ally for each DS ally against LV if he doesn’t have a tank revival DC and then there is my First Order fleet counter to Executors which isn’t so exotic either. If they have methods of telling somebody cheated in pve they should also be able to Check that and appeal people who didn’t cheat. I don’t even use bugs of conquest feats that are in favor of players, because I don’t progress fast enough to do so before they are fixed. I can’t imagine any opponent in GAC reporting me either because I only win when they don’t play at all and I cheese last second or they play and fail on offense and I can take more banners. Rarely I am just stronger better and win by clearing more. And if they fail on my defense I would assume there is not much to report about.
  • Drakus
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    edited February 2023
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    Can we talk about how you 3 man full 5v5 SEE team with just your EP? Or how you take down relic GG with trash Ewoks?

    https://swgoh.gg/p/515836341/gac-history/?gac=124&r=3

    Funny thing is you loose on purpose first battles so it doesn't look like cheating, only to then clear it with trash low gear teams so make it look like you are clearing it with skill... sure, sure...

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    Well deserved ban! Nice catch, CG! Keep it going!


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    Lol cheaters are funny. All the same .
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    Drakus wrote: »
    Sure, sure.... you have no idea where it came from. How about that?

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    Thanks for taking your time and check. I appreciate it. As for your questions.
    I guess it’s widely (enough) known that Ewoks can be used to clear a solo GG. Even at that level of disparity in gear.
    You can try it right in the next TW.
    Next: Phoenix against a solo Darth Sidious. Is that really surprising to you?
    You can Check it in my GAC if you look at details but for you and people only reading here and not checking, i got you covered.
    First fight against SEE was with EP Vader and TFP (why not more? I don’t have more Empire or Siths left for that battle that are relic 5 or higher) with the Datacron shown below (refresh cooldowns to give Vader infinite turns, making it possible to Go against a GL. It was quite popular and known I‘d say).
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    Ewoks vs solo GG very doable.

    I have done it with G11 trash Ewoks, it's surprisingly easy.
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    Drakus wrote: »
    Can we talk about how you 3 man full 5v5 SEE team with just your EP? Or how you take down relic GG with trash Ewoks?

    https://swgoh.gg/p/515836341/gac-history/?gac=124&r=3

    Funny thing is you loose on purpose first battles so it doesn't look like cheating, only to then clear it with trash low gear teams so make it look like you are clearing it with skill... sure, sure...

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    Well deserved ban! Nice catch, CG! Keep it going!


    I feel like you are a bit more personal than needed. If you took the time that you spend in accusing me and writing theory and instead actually checked the Battles and datacrons used, you would quickly come to the conclusion that a „sorry“ would be more fitting (I assume you use datacrons and know the Security Primer one, if Not Check YouTube, there are enough Videos about it with Vader taking a loop of turns, Tarkin one shotting entire GL teams etc).
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    Ewoks vs solo GG very doable.

    I have done it with G11 trash Ewoks, it's surprisingly easy.

    Thank you for taking your time commenting it. Im 50% concerned people like the two here who don’t seem to take much interest i datacrons, probably modding or something like Ewoks against Solo GG reported me leading to this but then also I have 50% good hope because if that was the cause, I should be back quickly, because i don’t think CG doesn’t know these things if they look into it. Feels weird having to explain these fights and justifying myself about rather common tactics if you are part of communities like the swgoh event discord.
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    Your explanation is fair enough but theres a couple of things which seem unlikely. Don't think I saw one gas 501st battle where you had a sacrifice (against malgus or mirror). Sith empire against SEE (crappy line up) where you almost (sliver of red) killed a 180k health SEE. And how in 30odd seconds with a rubbish sith trio, managed to take off nearly all jkl protection and half of hodas.
    Again not definitive but doubtful.
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    Saada wrote: »
    Your explanation is fair enough but theres a couple of things which seem unlikely. Don't think I saw one gas 501st battle where you had a sacrifice (against malgus or mirror). Sith empire against SEE (crappy line up) where you almost (sliver of red) killed a 180k health SEE. And how in 30odd seconds with a rubbish sith trio, managed to take off nearly all jkl protection and half of hodas.
    Again not definitive but doubtful.

    Also thank you for taking your time and checking. I check in here a lot of times because of course I want to see if I got a reply from EA/CG. I can’t/won’t/don’t have to justify every fight and just say this: you can look in any legit players history and find „odd“ things if you don’t consider mods of every character who was part of the battle, datacrons and character abilities (Sith Trio Protection on JKL, I mean Traya lead is a thing.. and yea that was one hell of a crappy SEE team + I had Tank revival and a good SE team).
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    Alëx1 wrote: »
    Saada wrote: »
    Your explanation is fair enough but theres a couple of things which seem unlikely. Don't think I saw one gas 501st battle where you had a sacrifice (against malgus or mirror). Sith empire against SEE (crappy line up) where you almost (sliver of red) killed a 180k health SEE. And how in 30odd seconds with a rubbish sith trio, managed to take off nearly all jkl protection and half of hodas.
    Again not definitive but doubtful.

    Also thank you for taking your time and checking. I check in here a lot of times because of course I want to see if I got a reply from EA/CG. I can’t/won’t/don’t have to justify every fight and just say this: you can look in any legit players history and find „odd“ things if you don’t consider mods of every character who was part of the battle, datacrons and character abilities (Sith Trio Protection on JKL, I mean Traya lead is a thing.. and yea that was one hell of a crappy SEE team + I had Tank revival and a good SE team).

    Calling jkl to assist is an out of turn attack so it is possible to be damaged so that's fair enough. Look you may not have cheated since as you said things could look suss but have a reason behind it and cg could definitely make a mistake. But I believe there are actually smart cheaters who choose well known counters and only increase stats marginally to have an upper hand. Again this may not be you.
  • Ultra
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    Saada please avoid posting your reasons in threads as they are not clear evidence and cherry picked without full context thanks!
  • Franke
    128 posts Member
    edited February 2023
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    I looked at op's history and it does seem legit.
    Cant see any reason banning him based on gac anyway
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  • Ultra
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    Franke wrote: »
    I looked at op's history and it does seem legit.
    Cant see any reason banning him based on fac anyway

    Rest assured, CG investigates all ban appeals

    After the investigation is over, the clarification will only be provided to OP, he is free to share the information with the rest of the guild if he wishes to share it,

    I haven't checked OP's data yet, but like you said, there is limited information available to us, there are other game modes Capital Games is cracking down on that we have no information on, such as Conquest, Territory Battles, Journey Guide Toon unlocks etc
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    Ultra wrote: »
    Franke wrote: »
    I looked at op's history and it does seem legit.
    Cant see any reason banning him based on fac anyway

    Rest assured, CG investigates all ban appeals

    After the investigation is over, the clarification will only be provided to OP, he is free to share the information with the rest of the guild if he wishes to share it,

    I haven't checked OP's data yet, but like you said, there is limited information available to us, there are other game modes Capital Games is cracking down on that we have no information on, such as Conquest, Territory Battles, Journey Guide Toon unlocks etc

    Hello Ultra, thanks for checking in and giving me some information, what’s the next step.
    I assume then, CG can get any information themselves that they need to determine what is what?
    If not I am happy to provide what I can.

    I also assume I won’t get any information on what the ban is even based on until they made a decision?
    It drives me nuts not knowing what is happening given the described circumstances of what I do and achieve in the game and what I don’t achieve (no red chest or even be close to it, couple million cpit dmg, good waves in DSGeoTB, little waves in LSGeoTB and RotE, a clean GAC history as people who seem knowledgeable in this community agreed).
  • Ultra
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    I'll look into your account later but its always good to PM @CG_Leviathan with your appeal, and provide any proof you can to expedite the process
  • Alëx1
    24 posts Member
    edited February 2023
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    Ultra wrote: »
    I'll look into your account later but its always good to PM @CG_Leviathan with your appeal, and provide any proof you can to expedite the process

    I don’t know, (edit: what I am accused of and-) how or what proof I can send that you can’t access via my account. I can’t proof
    that I only play on my iPhone 12 with the most recent iOS and no other platforms like bluestacks,
    that I don’t share my account,
    that I only buy in Euro while living in Europe,
    that I don’t insult people,
    that I don’t cheat or even tried or even tried to inform me about how that would be done,
    that I don’t do anything to make a worse gaming experience to anyone in the game.

    I didn’t ask my guild to vouch for me, because I don’t think it means anything to you (why would it mean more than my word), but obviously I could do that.

    I am on a regular basis on swgoh community Discord and try to be helpful there, too, as you might know because we chatted there briefly today. You can search for posts and comments from me, too. I always try to learn something from more experienced people and give back to others especially in Assault battle threads and be helpful.
    To be honest, I can’t access the game at the moment obviously. What kind of proof would you like to see that would help my case?
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    I'm in same situation as you are - even same phone type :) I also have no clue what kind of proves could I provide. CG has access to all data, then what more can I give them?
    Hope we got this sorted briefly...
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    I'm in same situation as you are - even same phone type :) I also have no clue what kind of proves could I provide. CG has access to all data, then what more can I give them?
    Hope we got this sorted briefly...

    Yeah, it worries me a bit that she (I think?) says, any proof is good and I don’t know what I am supposed to or even can prove. But I’ll try to be patient. Ultra seems to be rational and also I know I didn’t do anything wrong and if they look into my account data they will have to clear me. I can only imagine my last GAC opponent might(!) have reported me. But honestly look at that battle. If he loses that bad on him/her playing offense, that is nothing I am responsible for (wasting a SEE because they can’t clear my Phasma Team in four tries). My teams on offense are all legit and well known.
    I wish you good luck, too.
  • daedalus0
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    edited February 2023
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    Alëx1 wrote: »
    I didn’t ask my guild to vouch for me, because I don’t think it means anything to you (why would it mean more than my word), but obviously I could do that.
    You don't have to ask, man, doing this on my own :)

    Hey everyone,
    i'm an Officer from his guild Anger and can cofirm with absolute certainty that he is no cheater, but simply a very skilled player who knows his tactics/teams/mods/DCs.

    He's been with us for a long time and is as reliable, supportful and motivated as it can get.

    As he's been explaining, this is probably a misunderstanding an I hope the issue will be resolved soon.
    For our guild it's very annoying as well, because he joined the upcoming TW and is probably not able to participate.
    Feel free to ask me - or anyone from our guild, for that matter - for more information if it helps speeding up the process.

    Regards
    daedalus
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    daedalus0 wrote: »
    i'm an Officer from his guild Anger and can cofirm with absolute certainty that he is no cheater, but simply a very skilled player who knows his tactics/teams/mods/DCs.
    Regardless of what anyone thinks

    No one can vouch for another player, a lot of guilds have shown to be vouching for guild mates who ended up being cheaters without dispute

    Unless you physically watched him play his game every time in PvP and PvE you cannot confirm with absolute certainty
  • TVF
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    Ultra wrote: »
    daedalus0 wrote: »
    i'm an Officer from his guild Anger and can cofirm with absolute certainty that he is no cheater, but simply a very skilled player who knows his tactics/teams/mods/DCs.
    Regardless of what anyone thinks

    No one can vouch for another player, a lot of guilds have shown to be vouching for guild mates who ended up being cheaters without dispute

    Unless you physically watched him play his game every time in PvP and PvE you cannot confirm with absolute certainty

    Even then you can't, let's all pour one out for the guy that streamed all his battles with his guild and has no porn on his phone.
    I need a new message here. https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
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    Ultra wrote: »

    No one can vouch for another player, a lot of guilds have shown to be vouching for guild mates who ended up being cheaters without dispute

    Unless you physically watched him play his game every time in PvP and PvE you cannot confirm with absolute certainty

    No, but I can show my support for a guild member who feels unjustly treated and voice my opinion and concerns about the impact for our guild.
    Guess there's no harm in that.
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    TVF wrote: »
    let's all pour one out for the guy that streamed all his battles with his guild and has no porn on his phone.

    I remember him or her fondly. Was that the same as the bullet train?
  • TVF
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    Alëx1 wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    let's all pour one out for the guy that streamed all his battles with his guild and has no porn on his phone.

    I remember him or her fondly. Was that the same as the bullet train?

    I think so but there's been a bunch lately lol.
    I need a new message here. https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • TVF
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    daedalus0 wrote: »
    Ultra wrote: »

    No one can vouch for another player, a lot of guilds have shown to be vouching for guild mates who ended up being cheaters without dispute

    Unless you physically watched him play his game every time in PvP and PvE you cannot confirm with absolute certainty

    No, but I can show my support for a guild member who feels unjustly treated and voice my opinion and concerns about the impact for our guild.
    Guess there's no harm in that.

    There's also no ham in that but it might just be a me having missed breakfast thing.
    I need a new message here. https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
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    TVF wrote: »
    I think so but there's been a bunch lately lol.

    Can’t wait to crawl out of this pit and be a redeemed and free man again and hopefully already be in TW and not be in company with those anymore. 🕺
    I also wonder, if I got reported from someone I faced in GAC (which I don’t know), does that automatically put me under ban, is there someone from CG checking that before the ban gets applied, in case someone being mad for losing even though they have more GLs reports me? How comes I have to appeal and only now they check if the ban is legit? I really can’t imagine any of their ingame tools banned me for pve reasons and that is why nobody checked prior to the ban.
    But also I got time on my hands now to wonder about these things. :)
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