GAC change of time

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  • nfidel2k wrote: »
    The problem is that they didn’t change the times, not that they did change it. UTC is merely an internationally accepted date/time format. If the servers are located anywhere in the US, their timestamps changed when US DST went into effect, but the run times didn’t.

    And on the original topic I agree that an in game notice would be extremely helpful for international accounts.
    The run times did change for me though.
  • scuba
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    Season 37 start and stop times based on epoch from the game
    1
    Start: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 10:00:00 PM UTC
    End: Monday, March 6, 2023 10:00:00 PM UTC
    2
    Start: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 10:00:00 PM UTC
    End: Monday, March 13, 2023 10:00:00 PM UTC
    3
    Start: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 9:00:00 PM UTC
    Stop: Monday, March 20, 2023 9:00:00 PM UTC

    So this entire round of 3 started an hour earlier (which is weird since they don't normally switch the times) but still had 24 hours per each phase.
    Looking back at last year this it the normal, so I take it back they do switch some stuff for DST, i never really pay attention and just get **** done instead of waiting till the last minute so i probably never noticed it.

    2022 DST in the USA was Mar 13 thru Nov 6
    here are some start times of GAC during and after DST last year
    Tuesday, September 20, 2022 9:00:00 PM UTC
    Tuesday, October 25, 2022 9:00:00 PM UTC
    Tuesday, November 8, 2022 10:00:00 PM UTC

    So as @TVF said it has been happening before, it will happen again
    So PSA on Nov 5 the US exits from Daylight savings time and it will shift an hour again if your area has not left daylight savings time on the same day.
    Looking at the events data this will change the time of events like GAC, assault battles, conquest, galactic challenges (stuff on the monthly schedule)
    Also shows how.... nvm don't want another forum warning from a mod.
  • The Autumn time changes happen before that in Europe, so it’ll be a different type of confusion when that happens!
  • nfidel2k
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    edited March 18
    nfidel2k wrote: »
    The problem is that they didn’t change the times, not that they did change it. UTC is merely an internationally accepted date/time format. If the servers are located anywhere in the US, their timestamps changed when US DST went into effect, but the run times didn’t.

    And on the original topic I agree that an in game notice would be extremely helpful for international accounts.
    The run times did change for me though.

    Yes, because of the DST change, but not because CG changed them.

    Edit: So apparently they do change the start time on the DST change. Should be the end time, but I was wrong.
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  • Ahh those are straight UTC times, so no they didn’t change. DST changed.
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  • nfidel2k wrote: »
    Ahh those are straight UTC times, so no they didn’t change. DST changed.
    But the knock on effect was that they did change for many users.

    I live in the UK which has been using UTC for the last 6 months or so. The current GAC round started and ended at different times to normal, even though we are still observing UTC here.
  • nfidel2k wrote: »
    Ahh those are straight UTC times, so no they didn’t change. DST changed.
    But the knock on effect was that they did change for many users.

    I live in the UK which has been using UTC for the last 6 months or so. The current GAC round started and ended at different times to normal, even though we are still observing UTC here.

    Yes, that is what I was saying. DST goes into effect which creates a time change for international accounts. CG doesn’t change anything or adjust it themselves, everything still rolls at the same internal time. It would need to be adjusted by CG to not affect international accounts.
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  • I can confirm what Darjelo is saying. I’m in the UK too and our clocks haven’t changed in the last few weeks, but GAC and everything else moved an hour earlier. This makes perfect sense if, as would be expected all in game events are linked to the local time for CG and their move in time zones to DST.
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  • scuba
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    nfidel2k wrote: »
    Ahh those are straight UTC times, so no they didn’t change. DST changed.

    They did actually change them. During non DST the start time is 2200 during DST it is 2100. My guess is they are manually scheduling the events using a calendar that observes DST so they stay the same with local time on us west coast, and shifts an hour UTC time.
    I am surprised someone uses a regular calender for these things.
  • scuba
    13842 posts Member
    edited March 18
    nfidel2k wrote: »
    nfidel2k wrote: »
    Ahh those are straight UTC times, so no they didn’t change. DST changed.
    But the knock on effect was that they did change for many users.

    I live in the UK which has been using UTC for the last 6 months or so. The current GAC round started and ended at different times to normal, even though we are still observing UTC here.

    Yes, that is what I was saying. DST goes into effect which creates a time change for international accounts. CG doesn’t change anything or adjust it themselves, everything still rolls at the same internal time. It would need to be adjusted by CG to not affect international accounts.

    Than it would affect local accounts.
    The only good way is how all the dailies are, set to UTC time with no care about DST. Than when a player shifts locally than they should know all thier times shift by an hour.

    Or you know, one day the world will stop shifting clocks around
  • scuba wrote: »
    nfidel2k wrote: »
    nfidel2k wrote: »
    Ahh those are straight UTC times, so no they didn’t change. DST changed.
    But the knock on effect was that they did change for many users.

    I live in the UK which has been using UTC for the last 6 months or so. The current GAC round started and ended at different times to normal, even though we are still observing UTC here.

    Yes, that is what I was saying. DST goes into effect which creates a time change for international accounts. CG doesn’t change anything or adjust it themselves, everything still rolls at the same internal time. It would need to be adjusted by CG to not affect international accounts.

    Than it would affect local accounts.
    The only good way is how all the dailies are, set to UTC time with no care about DST. Than when a player shifts locally than they should know all thier times shift by an hour.

    Or you know, one day the world will stop shifting clocks around
    Yeah I’m wrong, so ignore me. :)
    I realized after I posted my mistake, don’t know why I fixated on it. But I agree, especially about getting rid of DST.
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  • Lumiya
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    TVF wrote: »
    It happens twice a year every year, just like I said. Dunno why people keep acting like this is new.

    Because as said before, there -are- new players. Dunno why people keep forgetting this.

    Also, as already stated, if you have the time change at a different time and that is what you know, you can't always remember, know or have in mind something from somewhere else. I am pretty sure even some Americans whom live there have it happen to them that they forget about it or they don't have it on their radar. I know it happens here where I live to people when we have ours.
    On top of that, if the time change would be at a -different- day than the one they are familiar with, I am pretty sure lots of american players would have the same problems in game.
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  • LordDirt
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    :| I cant believe this is still such a talked about thing and how long this conversation is going.
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  • scuba
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    Lumiya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    It happens twice a year every year, just like I said. Dunno why people keep acting like this is new.

    Because as said before, there -are- new players. Dunno why people keep forgetting this.

    Also, as already stated, if you have the time change at a different time and that is what you know, you can't always remember, know or have in mind something from somewhere else. I am pretty sure even some Americans whom live there have it happen to them that they forget about it or they don't have it on their radar. I know it happens here where I live to people when we have ours.
    On top of that, if the time change would be at a -different- day than the one they are familiar with, I am pretty sure lots of american players would have the same problems in game.
    Compassion is a nice thing.

    It actually won't affect USA, at least those that observes DST. We will see the events stay at the same times 1700 Eastern for ga
  • Lumiya
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    scuba wrote: »
    Lumiya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    It happens twice a year every year, just like I said. Dunno why people keep acting like this is new.

    Because as said before, there -are- new players. Dunno why people keep forgetting this.

    Also, as already stated, if you have the time change at a different time and that is what you know, you can't always remember, know or have in mind something from somewhere else. I am pretty sure even some Americans whom live there have it happen to them that they forget about it or they don't have it on their radar. I know it happens here where I live to people when we have ours.
    On top of that, if the time change would be at a -different- day than the one they are familiar with, I am pretty sure lots of american players would have the same problems in game.
    Compassion is a nice thing.

    It actually won't affect USA, at least those that observes DST. We will see the events stay at the same times 1700 Eastern for ga

    I think you misunderstood me. I meant if the changes would be on a different day than it is in the US. For example if CG would be a german company and they would use our time, some of the US players would have the same problems like the non US players had. And I didn't mean that the players in the US were affected just that I am sure even US people forgot about it in general. When we have our time changes in Germany at least one person I know doesn't have it in mind and forgets it and I am sure this happens to Americans aswell. So if people can forget it/not have it in mind whom live in that same country, I think it is even more understandable if someone not from that country knows/forgets when it is, especially if it is a different date.
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  • Lumiya
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    :| I cant believe this is still such a talked about thing and how long this conversation is going.

    Because you were not affected, others were.
    I still see no problem in trying to raise a fair request. If there would be an ingame message, it would in no way diminish or worsen anyone's playing experience but would actually help the international community.
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  • There was still a time remaining icon
  • In UK our time changes in just over a week but i can still understand how a countdown timer works. Is it ideal? No. But its there.
  • TVF
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    Lumiya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    It happens twice a year every year, just like I said. Dunno why people keep acting like this is new.

    Because as said before, there -are- new players. Dunno why people keep forgetting this.

    OP isn't new.
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  • Lumiya wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    :| I cant believe this is still such a talked about thing and how long this conversation is going.

    Because you were not affected, others were.
    I still see no problem in trying to raise a fair request. If there would be an ingame message, it would in no way diminish or worsen anyone's playing experience but would actually help the international community.

    100%right. As stated in Australia not only are we in different time zones but different seasons. On top of that our DLS times change in the early morning of a Sunday to keep things easier. All this together I didn’t think of a time change for DLS and as such wasn’t watching the timer. Just expected the finish to be at the time I’m used to. I’m sure that unless we get a in game message that I will forget all about it next time also.
  • TVF
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    Set a reminder
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  • LordDirt
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    Funny that players cant keep track of all their time changes but they want a company to keep track of all the time changes for everyone all around the world.
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  • scuba
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    Lumiya wrote: »
    scuba wrote: »
    Lumiya wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    It happens twice a year every year, just like I said. Dunno why people keep acting like this is new.

    Because as said before, there -are- new players. Dunno why people keep forgetting this.

    Also, as already stated, if you have the time change at a different time and that is what you know, you can't always remember, know or have in mind something from somewhere else. I am pretty sure even some Americans whom live there have it happen to them that they forget about it or they don't have it on their radar. I know it happens here where I live to people when we have ours.
    On top of that, if the time change would be at a -different- day than the one they are familiar with, I am pretty sure lots of american players would have the same problems in game.
    Compassion is a nice thing.

    It actually won't affect USA, at least those that observes DST. We will see the events stay at the same times 1700 Eastern for ga

    I think you misunderstood me. I meant if the changes would be on a different day than it is in the US. For example if CG would be a german company and they would use our time, some of the US players would have the same problems like the non US players had. And I didn't mean that the players in the US were affected just that I am sure even US people forgot about it in general. When we have our time changes in Germany at least one person I know doesn't have it in mind and forgets it and I am sure this happens to Americans aswell. So if people can forget it/not have it in mind whom live in that same country, I think it is even more understandable if someone not from that country knows/forgets when it is, especially if it is a different date.

    Gotcha
  • scuba
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    Here is the number 1 solution to it all. Don't wait till the last 2 hours to attack or set defense.
  • scuba wrote: »
    Here is the number 1 solution to it all. Don't wait till the last 2 hours to attack or set defense.

    Good idea! My family and my work will love it!
  • scuba
    13842 posts Member
    scuba wrote: »
    Here is the number 1 solution to it all. Don't wait till the last 2 hours to attack or set defense.

    Good idea! My family and my work will love it!

    If the last hour is the only time you have to attack, than until your area shifts clocks that would mean you could never attack in ga, so I call ****. Even with the change each part was open for 24 hours.
  • LordDirt wrote: »
    Funny that players cant keep track of all their time changes but they want a company to keep track of all the time changes for everyone all around the world.

    No, the request is for CG to announce when they change the time, not to remind players of whatever local changes they are making to their own clock.

    I love seeing TVF being nice and constructive here with the constant “you need to set calendar reminders for US time changes to not be caught out in a mobile game”.
    Nobody claim this is new behaviour, some of us just would like a tiny change.

    Somewhat similar to the request that CG don’t start galactic chase in a manner that screws non-US players out of several hours of it….
  • I used to play a mobile football management game, Hattrick, which was run from servers in Sweden.

    Twice a year they put out a little memo explaining that their clocks were set to change in a few days, and that would have an effect across the game.

    It seems perfectly reasonable to expect the devs to do this in swgoh.

    I love how a handful of users insist that it’s easy to understand what has happened, even though it usually turns out their understanding of what has happened is wrong.
  • scuba wrote: »
    scuba wrote: »
    Here is the number 1 solution to it all. Don't wait till the last 2 hours to attack or set defense.

    Good idea! My family and my work will love it!

    If the last hour is the only time you have to attack, than until your area shifts clocks that would mean you could never attack in ga, so I call ****. Even with the change each part was open for 24 hours.

    I can get half an hour or more before that, but that doesn't mean I spend my whole day doing nothing. Yesterday, for example, I couldn't play at all. But that was my fault. On round 1 I could have sneaked some more minutes if I had known.
  • TVF
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    Morgoth01 wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    Funny that players cant keep track of all their time changes but they want a company to keep track of all the time changes for everyone all around the world.

    No, the request is for CG to announce when they change the time, not to remind players of whatever local changes they are making to their own clock.

    I love seeing TVF being nice and constructive here with the constant “you need to set calendar reminders for US time changes to not be caught out in a mobile game”.
    Nobody claim this is new behaviour

    OP did.
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