Sorry but CG's response to this, like so many other issues, is going to be "Shut up and spend money"
Frankly they should refund EVERYONE EVERYTHING they spent as far as resources, crystals, and money on this pile of garbage just to acknowledge that they lied about this ship as badly as Tod Howard lied about Fallout '76.
It was an interesting idea, but it ain't working and seems as if it needs another 1-3 months in drydock to get working right.
Why is it that every time something doesn't go as expected people immediately jump to the "CG Lied" narrative?
I'm not saying the ship is great right now. But it does, in fact, beat everything - and the ease of countering a 7* Leviathan has been drastically overstated in my opinion. Is it the "New King of the Meta"? No, clearly it's not - but it's also riddled with bugs. Can we let them fix those things and see what it looks like before we default back to "CG Lied! They're lying liar fased liars!"
I'm not happy about this either - I spent hard cash to take Leviathan to 7* and so far I've received more frustration than joy from that purchase. I'm legit unhappy with the situation - but you've got to give them a chance to fix it. They made a mistake (some mistakes) but it's not new, or surprising when you think about it. They should do better. They didn't. But they DO have a history of fixing their mistakes.
edit because on further thought I think it might have been intentional that they released this with bugs - I think that fits a likely scenario. That being said, we should still give them time to fix it, and I still don't think it's justifiable to say they lied about anything.
Because they did. Because it's also not the first time they did. Because they have a history of releasing stuff with issues and claiming it's going to be awesome! Because we have quite a few units now they claimed were going to be uber, that suck. (I recall a lot of players putting all 3 omicrons on DB Fett for the TW right after conquest because he was supposed to be so good.)
Are we just supposed to be "patient" every single time they release garbage that they claim is "meta defining"? Are we just supposed to be "patient" when CG give us something that doesn't work? Are we just supposed to be patient because they don't have Quality Assurance AT ALL? Are we supposed to be patient because they use players as their testers and let us find all the broken stuff? (There are 10 other fleets, how did they not have time to test leviathan against 10 fleets?)
Realize they've been doing this a few years already, they have developed a pattern of "misstating" what a unit or ship will be at. Add to that, their communications are ridiculously limited to just, "here's this new thing" and "this is broke and we'll fix it when we can."
The "leadership" at CG needs to remove the communications gag and CG needs to open their beta tester program back up, even if it's 5 players, so they can tell CG what is broken before it is released. Think of how many bugs there were released while the beta program was happening compared to now. Was there anything released since the end of the beta program that didn't have bugs or broken aspects?
Seems like the leadership there is just falling back on, "players will stop getting upset shortly because they're patient. So just ignore it and keep releasing low quality stuff. Who cares if it's buggy or lame?"
lol, I would wager a large sum of whatever currency you choose that never once in CG's office have the words "players will stop getting upset", or, "they're patient" ever been uttered with a straight face.
Show me a fleet that Leviathan doesn't beat, even with all it's bugs. The only fleet that I've found that it doesn't beat consistently is... Leviathan... sometimes. It beats Executor AND Profundity very consistently - more consistently than their respective mirrors, so yes - new meta. And it will be an even stronger meta when the bugs are fixed.
Whatelse, I get that you're mad - and I'm not even saying you shouldn't be mad - I'm a little salty too. But when you throw around stuff like "CG lied" when they didn't actually lie - you lose credibility any rational argument that you might be making is thrown into question. That just adds noise to the conversation which immediately gets ignored by anyone that matters that might happen to read it.
So yeah - be patient. It's not fun, and we SHOULDN'T have to be patient. We should be playing with our new shiny toy and stomping all over anyone in fleet arena that didn't bother to unlock it (that's actually what I've been doing). But that's the situation we're in. No amount of angry text is going to make the bugs get fixed any sooner - and CG isn't going to start issuing refunds just because someone got mad on the forums. You've been around long enough to know that. We can agree on one thing for sure though - they should have done better. They really should have, and I believe they can.
Lying appears to be relative and some will base it on the defense lawyer outlook. For the resources required to unlock Leviathan, let alone get it to 7*, it is not Meta Defining. That's even without the bugs. Profundity and Executor are wayyyyy better at 4, 5, and 6 Star. (Don't recall Holdo beating sub 7 star executor or profundity on auto)
Maybe we should all just stop caring about the game and not get excited about anything anymore? Just go full Apathy? Or are you saying we shouldn't expect as much from them since they work for EA and Disney? I do know there are people working at CG who want the game to be the best possible and care about it, but I'm not referring to them. I'm talking about the decision maker (that seems quite anonymous).
I appreciate your perspective, but it's not anger as much as it seems like it, I learned to yell a long time ago without actually being angry about it. (Might be tougher to identify since I'm not on video being angry about it and the deception like so many content creators.) It is disappointment because CG's priorities yet again seem to be all jumbled up. (I'm sure the next set of datacrons will be released in perfect working order.)
And yes, I am still happy to bring up datacrons. Enjoy!
I ragert nothing. Ok, I ragert not looking at the refersh timer a little bit. But I maintain I had no reason to look at the refersh timer, so like... why would I?
F2P since the last time I bought Kyros, Crystals, or the Conquest Pass.
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Lying appears to be relative and some will base it on the defense lawyer outlook. For the resources required to unlock Leviathan, let alone get it to 7*, it is not Meta Defining. That's even without the bugs. Profundity and Executor are wayyyyy better at 4, 5, and 6 Star. (Don't recall Holdo beating sub 7 star executor or profundity on auto)
Maybe we should all just stop caring about the game and not get excited about anything anymore? Just go full Apathy? Or are you saying we shouldn't expect as much from them since they work for EA and Disney? I do know there are people working at CG who want the game to be the best possible and care about it, but I'm not referring to them. I'm talking about the decision maker (that seems quite anonymous).
I appreciate your perspective, but it's not anger as much as it seems like it, I learned to yell a long time ago without actually being angry about it. (Might be tougher to identify since I'm not on video being angry about it and the deception like so many content creators.) It is disappointment because CG's priorities yet again seem to be all jumbled up. (I'm sure the next set of datacrons will be released in perfect working order.)
And yes, I am still happy to bring up datacrons. Enjoy!
Regret of the Sith
Duh, it's spelled Ragrets!
yeah i felt like i probably got it wrong as i was typing it but was too lazy to look it up
i ragert that now
Several people in my guild (myself included) just did, yes.
I had to restart for it to show up. I think they also roll these out over time so it's probably coming.
A great move on CGs part and all credit to them for doing it! Bravo!
It seems we are both french.
Maybe it is the link