Leviathan special mission limit

Tialishoma241

I was taking my leviathan from 4* up to 7* only to find they've limited the number of times you can do it. This has never been an issue before. As if leviathan wasn't annoying enough, now even unlocking it seems bugged

Notthatguyfrombefore

It was the same for Exe and Prof. There’s a limit of 20 refreshes on the bonus tier. Nothing new here.

UdalCuain

Notthatguyfrombefore wrote: »

It was the same for Exe and Prof. There’s a limit of 20 refreshes on the bonus tier. Nothing new here.

Technically 19 refreshes, 20 attempts. But yeah, nothing new here.

Pertor

But for Day1-People it was possible to get her to 7**. If not so now, it woulf be an highly unfair move .... again.

DK_Raid_Violator

Pertor wrote: »

But for Day1-People it was possible to get her to 7**. If not so now, it woulf be an highly unfair move .... again.

The answar as always is "there is a pack". Just like we used on day 1. Nothing has changed.

Pertor

Which is 1255 Crystals more expensive for 5 packs needed. People complained already about it since it seems there was a refresh für Day 1 people for usual 999Crystal trys. If I remember well.

DarjeloSalas

Pertor wrote: »

Which is 1255 Crystals more expensive for 5 packs needed. People complained already about it since it seems there was a refresh für Day 1 people for usual 999Crystal trys. If I remember well.

You don’t remember well. The Executor, Profundity and now Leviathan events are all exactly the same

Pertor

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/265054/leviathan-crystal-refund#latest You can read about the issue here, if you don't believe me.

DarjeloSalas

Pertor wrote: »

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/265054/leviathan-crystal-refund#latest You can read about the issue here, if you don't believe me.

But that’s irrelevant. The limit of 20 attempts has always existed.

There was a bug that allowed the max number of attempts on one occasion, but that was a bug and you should not expect it to repeat.

They reimbursed people who bought the packs on that occasion because it was unfair.

Notthatguyfrombefore

There was a “refresh” on the Levi bonus tier during the first run, because the event didn’t start at the same time as usual events. It started about 12 hours out of sync, probably because they were rushing a bugged unit launch. That was why during that first run the Levi bonus tier had an ‘extra’ set of refreshes. This time the timing was synced up with all other events, including for the bonus tier. You could have seen that in the JG for the last few days.

It is still possible for players to get it to 7* this time around, it just requires buying shard packs. This is nothing new and was entirely predictable based on past CG behaviour and is back in keeping with Exe and Prof.

Pertor

Well, to me it is not irrelevant when people are not treated the same way and don't find the same circumstances. Never. Even in a mobile game. Too bad. So sad.

DarjeloSalas

Pertor wrote: »

Well, to me it is not irrelevant when people are not treated the same way and don't find the same circumstances. Never. Even in a mobile game. Too bad. So sad.

If your friend went to a restaurant and got their drinks for free because the restaurant made a mistake, would you think it was unfair if you went the following week and you had to pay for your drinks?

Pertor

In case I participated in a drinking contest, yes indeed . This game is a contest, that's the difference. But we may aswell end this discussion now. If some people got reimbursed because of a mistake during a contest, all participants should be reimbursed, not just some ...

Notthatguyfrombefore

Pertor wrote: »

In case I participated in a drinking contest, yes indeed . This game is a contest, that's the difference. But we may aswell end this discussion now. If some people got reimbursed because of a mistake during a contest, all participants should be reimbursed, not just some ...

They got reimbursed because of a particular issue during the first run of the event. Had you done the same thing as them you would also have been reimbursed at the time.

herd_nerfer

Pertor wrote: »

In case I participated in a drinking contest, yes indeed . This game is a contest, that's the difference. But we may aswell end this discussion now. If some people got reimbursed because of a mistake during a contest, all participants should be reimbursed, not just some ...

Everyone who was affected did - myself included. Those people got reimbursed because the expectation was that the Leviathan event would be like the Prof and Exec events and have that hard 19 refresh cap - so we went and bought the packs to finish the farm (just as we expected we would have to). It was unfair to us that other people farmed it to 7* on day 1 WITHOUT spending the extra crystals. That's why we were reimbursed.

Go spend the crystals on the packs. That's how Exec worked. That's how Prof worked. That's how Leviathan was supposed to work the first time - and how it now works. There's nothing broken here, and no one is being treated unfairly. Had you been ready on day 1 then the bug would have effected you too (along with all the other Leviathan bugs and performance issues).

Pertor

I did. And that's the reason why i'm complaining. As far as I remember there has been never been an official statement about the issue. If there would have been one, eyerything would be clear to everybody. Day 1 participants had to invest several thousand crystals less than the rest. To me it's unfair since it should't have been this way. Call yourself lucky if you profited by the mistake. Sorry, you can't change my mind.

DarjeloSalas

Pertor wrote: »

In case I participated in a drinking contest, yes indeed . This game is a contest, that's the difference. But we may aswell end this discussion now. If some people got reimbursed because of a mistake during a contest, all participants should be reimbursed, not just some ...

The only difference I see is that you want reimbursed for something that had absolutely no effect on you, whilst nobody else thinks this should happen.

Pertor

Well, in case that you call "having to spend a few thousand crytals more than others by mistake of the producers" is "no effect", than you're right. Like I said before, if there would've been an official statement everything would be fine. I'm out now. Bye.

BubbaFett

Pertor wrote: »

Well, to me it is not irrelevant when people are not treated the same way and don't find the same circumstances. Never. Even in a mobile game. Too bad. So sad.

Everyone who was ready for Leviathan on day one was treated exactly the same way.... You weren't one of those people...

Pertor

I don't like to repeat myself over and over again: Gamedesign für GL-Ships so far was fair, because everybody met the same conditions. Wether you participated on Day 1 or not. For the Leviathan thais was not the case - even by mistake. Call me a liar, but that's a fact.

DarjeloSalas

Pertor wrote: »

Well, in case that you call "having to spend a few thousand crytals more than others by mistake of the producers" is "no effect", than you're right. Like I said before, if there would've been an official statement everything would be fine. I'm out now. Bye.

How is 1255 “a few thousand”?

Pertor

Reread the first post by Notthatguyfrombefore. My calculation was wrong, sorry. It's 2,254 crystals.

herd_nerfer

DarjeloSalas wrote: »

Pertor wrote: »

Well, in case that you call "having to spend a few thousand crytals more than others by mistake of the producers" is "no effect", than you're right. Like I said before, if there would've been an official statement everything would be fine. I'm out now. Bye.

How is 1255 “a few thousand”?

I think the reimbursement was 2254 - but your point stands.

Pertor wrote: »

I did. And that's the reason why i'm complaining. As far as I remember there has been never been an official statement about the issue. If there would have been one, eyerything would be clear to everybody. Day 1 participants had to invest several thousand crystals less than the rest. To me it's unfair since it should't have been this way. Call yourself lucky if you profited by the mistake. Sorry, you can't change my mind.

People who went to 7* on day 1 did get it cheaper than others who want to take it to 7* - but that was due to a mistake - it was a fluke. CG makes mistakes - they're human beings - and for those of us that actually got a raw deal that day, we were compensated. Are they supposed to pay for that one mistake on that one day for the remainder of the lifetime of the game? Do you really think that's reasonable?

Exactly what kind of official statement are you after? What could they say that would make you feel better about the situation?

Pertor

How about: "Sorry folks, we made a mistake (again). Day 1 people will be reembursed, day 2 people not, because we don't find a better solution. We know that's not fair, sorry." That would have made everything clear. Easy. And yes, I was naive enough to believe, that there would have been a solution concerning this issue also on Day 2. Due to fairness.

BubbaFett

I just got my Leviathan to 7 stars today and I can honestly say that, if I had known CG would have issued crystal refunds the first time around, I would have 7 starred it back then....

I think it was great that CG did the right thing by the players during the day one event to correct their mistake and it would never occur to me to feel like I was being treated unfairly because I wasn't able to take advantage of the same mistake a month later...

This is why we can't have nice things....

TVF

Pertor wrote: »

How about: "Sorry folks, we made a mistake (again). Day 1 people will be reembursed, day 2 people not, because we don't find a better solution. We know that's not fair, sorry." That would have made everything clear. Easy. And yes, I was naive enough to believe, that there would have been a solution concerning this issue also on Day 2. Due to fairness.

It was a bug. They fixed it. They compensated everyone who was negatively affected. Back to normal now. End of story.

Pertor

Well, I didn't think that posting a thing like "Hey, that's not fair" would lead to a discussion like that. Have a nice day, follks, there's a TW to win!

ChuMuc

Well, there is a principle in almost all legal jurisdictions: You have no right to be treated the same as people who were treated wrongly. If the tax authority made a mistake on your neighbor's returns, you can't sue them to make the same mistake for you. This might feel unfair, but that is the legal system we live in. And you are not in the same position, as you did not spend the resources to be ready on day 1 like all the other players you did. So you have even less ground to argue for same treatment.