SWGOH QOL request

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LordSlugger
28 posts Member
edited September 2023
Hey CG,
What about giving a little relief to your player by putting the TB on a monthly base instead of twice a mounth? Juste have to double the reward and everybody will be happy about this change. You just have to put it in alternance with the conquest... because conquest + tb at the same time is just to much... also you could add a new tw mode so it will be more interresting....


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    Yes please.
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    Why play a game and not play it?
    Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    Why play a game and not play it?

    Well playing a game is fun...having to spend 4 hour on a daily base to complete what you have to do when tb+conquest are in the same time, is just to much... not fun anymore
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    Why play a game and not play it?

    Why maintain a healthy diet when there’s all this food?
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    Pick a different game then? I hate just spinning my characters around and not being able to do anything with them.
    Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    Pick a different game then? I hate just spinning my characters around and not being able to do anything with them.

    Because players of this game are free to make suggestions on what they think will make the game more enjoyable to them. And judging by the fact that CG will reduce raids to once a week rather than twice a week soon enough, it’s fair to surmise they know time in game is an issue, and that CG may be open to further QOL improvements regarding time in game.
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    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.
    Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
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    I'd be happy with once a month TB (as long as 2x rewards). I do not find ROTE fun in the least, its just a chore basically
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.

    I don't see why you are trolling this post like that...
    Look you are going in the in extrem proposition wich is realy not the essence of this post. We are talking about balancing the game and the time we have to invest in the game. If for you, conquest+tb+raid+gac at the sametime is not enough and you want more, it's ok. I respect that. But i manage an alliance of 6 guilds and i can tel you that the vast majority of the player base are overwhelm by all the things to do in the game when a conquest and a tb happens in the same time. And i can tell you also that the quality of their play is affected by that... forgetting to deploy, missng a platoon, not in time for arena...etc. everybody seems to exhausted by the game in that period...
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.

    I don't see why you are trolling this post like that...
    Look you are going in the in extrem proposition wich is realy not the essence of this post. We are talking about balancing the game and the time we have to invest in the game. If for you, conquest+tb+raid+gac at the sametime is not enough and you want more, it's ok. I respect that. But i manage an alliance of 6 guilds and i can tel you that the vast majority of the player base are overwhelm by all the things to do in the game when a conquest and a tb happens in the same time. And i can tell you also that the quality of their play is affected by that... forgetting to deploy, missng a platoon, not in time for arena...etc. everybody seems to exhausted by the game in that period...

    I say let him troll your post with the hyperbole, rhetoric, etc. It’s a super obvious device used by people with indefensible positions in an attempt to save face.
  • LordDirt
    5122 posts Member
    edited September 2023
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.

    I don't see why you are trolling this post like that...
    Look you are going in the in extrem proposition wich is realy not the essence of this post. We are talking about balancing the game and the time we have to invest in the game. If for you, conquest+tb+raid+gac at the sametime is not enough and you want more, it's ok. I respect that. But i manage an alliance of 6 guilds and i can tel you that the vast majority of the player base are overwhelm by all the things to do in the game when a conquest and a tb happens in the same time. And i can tell you also that the quality of their play is affected by that... forgetting to deploy, missng a platoon, not in time for arena...etc. everybody seems to exhausted by the game in that period...

    It is because there are always threads asking to sim stuff and to cut corners in this game. I am all for QoL stuff like fleet loadouts and better mod control but when I see so many people asking to sim or cut back on content it always makes me laugh. Too many times I go into the game and there is nothing to do but spin my guys around and then go do something else.

    I do three conquest refreshes in under an hour in the morning. At night while I watch TV I knock out the TB stuff in under an hour. Raid has been done two days ago so i am waiting for it to reset tonight and will knock that out shortly after it resets.
    Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.

    I don't see why you are trolling this post like that...
    Look you are going in the in extrem proposition wich is realy not the essence of this post. We are talking about balancing the game and the time we have to invest in the game. If for you, conquest+tb+raid+gac at the sametime is not enough and you want more, it's ok. I respect that. But i manage an alliance of 6 guilds and i can tel you that the vast majority of the player base are overwhelm by all the things to do in the game when a conquest and a tb happens in the same time. And i can tell you also that the quality of their play is affected by that... forgetting to deploy, missng a platoon, not in time for arena...etc. everybody seems to exhausted by the game in that period...

    I say let him troll your post with the hyperbole, rhetoric, etc. It’s a super obvious device used by people with indefensible positions in an attempt to save face.

    Sorry but I actually like to play games and not watch or sim them.
    Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.

    I don't see why you are trolling this post like that...
    Look you are going in the in extrem proposition wich is realy not the essence of this post. We are talking about balancing the game and the time we have to invest in the game. If for you, conquest+tb+raid+gac at the sametime is not enough and you want more, it's ok. I respect that. But i manage an alliance of 6 guilds and i can tel you that the vast majority of the player base are overwhelm by all the things to do in the game when a conquest and a tb happens in the same time. And i can tell you also that the quality of their play is affected by that... forgetting to deploy, missng a platoon, not in time for arena...etc. everybody seems to exhausted by the game in that period...

    You are isolating the one busiest week of the month and making it out as if it's like this every week.... That's a pretty extreme position in and of itself...
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    Why play a game and not play it?

    Well playing a game is fun...having to spend 4 hour on a daily base to complete what you have to do when tb+conquest are in the same time, is just to much... not fun anymore

    That takes nowhere near 4 hours....
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    What skin is it off your nose if they add a sim feature? If someone has three starred something, they’ve invested time and energy into getting to that point, and should earn the ability to skip that content if they no longer wish to play it. If you’re so hell bent on doing it manually, you still can. What, do you still do your GW manually every day too so you “have something to do”?
    LordDirt wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.

    I don't see why you are trolling this post like that...
    Look you are going in the in extrem proposition wich is realy not the essence of this post. We are talking about balancing the game and the time we have to invest in the game. If for you, conquest+tb+raid+gac at the sametime is not enough and you want more, it's ok. I respect that. But i manage an alliance of 6 guilds and i can tel you that the vast majority of the player base are overwhelm by all the things to do in the game when a conquest and a tb happens in the same time. And i can tell you also that the quality of their play is affected by that... forgetting to deploy, missng a platoon, not in time for arena...etc. everybody seems to exhausted by the game in that period...

    I say let him troll your post with the hyperbole, rhetoric, etc. It’s a super obvious device used by people with indefensible positions in an attempt to save face.

    Sorry but I actually like to play games and not watch or sim them.

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    If TB and conquest take you 4 hours everyday, I’d say that you must be doing something wrong and playing in 1X speed
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    I see both sides of this argument.

    I don’t want TB to become a monthly activity because I enjoy it.

    But I do know that the first 48 hours of conquest and TB (as well as often GAC and Raids) running simultaneously is the most this game feels like work for me every month.
  • LordDirt
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    edited September 2023
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    KDC99X wrote: »
    What skin is it off your nose if they add a sim feature? If someone has three starred something, they’ve invested time and energy into getting to that point, and should earn the ability to skip that content if they no longer wish to play it. If you’re so hell bent on doing it manually, you still can. What, do you still do your GW manually every day too so you “have something to do”?
    LordDirt wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.

    I don't see why you are trolling this post like that...
    Look you are going in the in extrem proposition wich is realy not the essence of this post. We are talking about balancing the game and the time we have to invest in the game. If for you, conquest+tb+raid+gac at the sametime is not enough and you want more, it's ok. I respect that. But i manage an alliance of 6 guilds and i can tel you that the vast majority of the player base are overwhelm by all the things to do in the game when a conquest and a tb happens in the same time. And i can tell you also that the quality of their play is affected by that... forgetting to deploy, missng a platoon, not in time for arena...etc. everybody seems to exhausted by the game in that period...

    I say let him troll your post with the hyperbole, rhetoric, etc. It’s a super obvious device used by people with indefensible positions in an attempt to save face.

    Sorry but I actually like to play games and not watch or sim them.

    Older content it makes since but not newer content. Should we be able to sim the Krayt raid now? We get to keep our highest score? What about Conquest. After the first round of a new Conquest we get to sim the second and third to match the first? Do we all get to make changes to make things once a month because it would be nice for me to have GA a little as possible.
    Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
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    Now the debate is more interesting. Of course i speak for my personal experience and the general feedback of the 300 player that form our alliance. Every time a conquest is lunch i heard the same comments..."this is too much time consumming"..etc. i love to play this game, but we have to admit that sometime it is pretty intense to have those two mode in the same time. Just looking for a solution or a proposition that can relief a bit that sense of chore that is growing in our community regarding that specific period of the mounth whete we have those two evwnt combine...
    As for the 4 hour time i mentionned, well i'm a tb officer, and let me tell you that between elaborating a strategy, looking for the missing platoon and deploy etc, it is not far from the truht...
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    As such is the burden of an officer. You took on this burden knowing that you will have to chase down random people playing a FTP mobile game.
    Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    KDC99X wrote: »
    What skin is it off your nose if they add a sim feature? If someone has three starred something, they’ve invested time and energy into getting to that point, and should earn the ability to skip that content if they no longer wish to play it. If you’re so hell bent on doing it manually, you still can. What, do you still do your GW manually every day too so you “have something to do”?
    LordDirt wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.

    I don't see why you are trolling this post like that...
    Look you are going in the in extrem proposition wich is realy not the essence of this post. We are talking about balancing the game and the time we have to invest in the game. If for you, conquest+tb+raid+gac at the sametime is not enough and you want more, it's ok. I respect that. But i manage an alliance of 6 guilds and i can tel you that the vast majority of the player base are overwhelm by all the things to do in the game when a conquest and a tb happens in the same time. And i can tell you also that the quality of their play is affected by that... forgetting to deploy, missng a platoon, not in time for arena...etc. everybody seems to exhausted by the game in that period...

    I say let him troll your post with the hyperbole, rhetoric, etc. It’s a super obvious device used by people with indefensible positions in an attempt to save face.

    Sorry but I actually like to play games and not watch or sim them.

    Older content it makes since but not newer content. Should we be able to sim the Krayt raid now? We get to keep our highest score? What about Conquest. After the first round of a new Conquest we get to sim the second and third to match the first? Do we all get to make changes to make things once a month because it would be nice for me to have GA a little as possible.

    I would love to sim KD raid, with my highest score, I bet most would. Talk about a boring chore
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.

    I don't see why you are trolling this post like that...
    Look you are going in the in extrem proposition wich is realy not the essence of this post. We are talking about balancing the game and the time we have to invest in the game. If for you, conquest+tb+raid+gac at the sametime is not enough and you want more, it's ok. I respect that. But i manage an alliance of 6 guilds and i can tel you that the vast majority of the player base are overwhelm by all the things to do in the game when a conquest and a tb happens in the same time. And i can tell you also that the quality of their play is affected by that... forgetting to deploy, missng a platoon, not in time for arena...etc. everybody seems to exhausted by the game in that period...

    I say let him troll your post with the hyperbole, rhetoric, etc. It’s a super obvious device used by people with indefensible positions in an attempt to save face.

    Sorry but I actually like to play games and not watch or sim them.

    If you’ve got so much time, then why not take your own advice, and play some other games?

    I’d hardly call running the same TB missions / hitting auto twice a month instead of once a month, would qualify as “playing” a game. More like a chore.
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.

    I don't see why you are trolling this post like that...
    Look you are going in the in extrem proposition wich is realy not the essence of this post. We are talking about balancing the game and the time we have to invest in the game. If for you, conquest+tb+raid+gac at the sametime is not enough and you want more, it's ok. I respect that. But i manage an alliance of 6 guilds and i can tel you that the vast majority of the player base are overwhelm by all the things to do in the game when a conquest and a tb happens in the same time. And i can tell you also that the quality of their play is affected by that... forgetting to deploy, missng a platoon, not in time for arena...etc. everybody seems to exhausted by the game in that period...

    I say let him troll your post with the hyperbole, rhetoric, etc. It’s a super obvious device used by people with indefensible positions in an attempt to save face.

    Sorry but I actually like to play games and not watch or sim them.

    If you’ve got so much time, then why not take your own advice, and play some other games?

    I’d hardly call running the same TB missions / hitting auto twice a month instead of once a month, would qualify as “playing” a game. More like a chore.

    I do play other games besides this one, thanks.
    Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
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    LordDirt wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.

    I don't see why you are trolling this post like that...
    Look you are going in the in extrem proposition wich is realy not the essence of this post. We are talking about balancing the game and the time we have to invest in the game. If for you, conquest+tb+raid+gac at the sametime is not enough and you want more, it's ok. I respect that. But i manage an alliance of 6 guilds and i can tel you that the vast majority of the player base are overwhelm by all the things to do in the game when a conquest and a tb happens in the same time. And i can tell you also that the quality of their play is affected by that... forgetting to deploy, missng a platoon, not in time for arena...etc. everybody seems to exhausted by the game in that period...

    I say let him troll your post with the hyperbole, rhetoric, etc. It’s a super obvious device used by people with indefensible positions in an attempt to save face.

    Sorry but I actually like to play games and not watch or sim them.

    If you’ve got so much time, then why not take your own advice, and play some other games?

    I’d hardly call running the same TB missions / hitting auto twice a month instead of once a month, would qualify as “playing” a game. More like a chore.

    I do play other games besides this one, thanks.

    So why the complaint about spinning your toons?
  • TVF
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    As for the 4 hour time i mentionned, well i'm a tb officer, and let me tell you that between elaborating a strategy, looking for the missing platoon and deploy etc, it is not far from the truht...

    I don't think CG cares about that part
    I need a new message here. https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
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    Well i know that cg does'nt care about that part.. this is why they don't really develop tools for officers... at least there his a little improvement for tb now in the last qol update... but it is far from complete...lol. still need those outside bot and website to manage it.
    They did add a sim button for datacron node. this a little improvement ( i guess lorddirt don't use it thought ;p)

    Also, what i see in the comment, is that some people are not able to adress a problem with a global perspective... it is not because a situation does'nt apply to an individual that the probleme does'nt exist... In general, with all the comment I hear, is that the grind of conquest and tb is in fact a real problem for the vast majority of players and CG should adress it.

    I proposed to put the tb once a month and to double rewards while making sure that tb and conquest are not in the same time...

    Maybe some of you have other suggestions?
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    Personally LordSlugger, I’d be down with that. I like having things to do as well, and I’m also an officer, but Conquest is SO time consuming, especially during the early part, that it’s a bit much. I like your proposal.
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    X6 or X8 speed to speed up auto battles would help relieve time in some of the content imo. They have made nice updates to TB and Conquest. TB got better stats to look at and Conquest got sims on the bonus nodes. Hell week definitely is chore when you have work, got a kid and trying to play. It would be nice if they could find a way to not have all 4 going at once in week.

    I do kinda like playing TB so just once a month might be disappointing for me even with double rewards
  • KDC99X
    762 posts Member
    edited September 2023
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    For the most part, people are asking for the sim option for older content where it doesn’t exist yet.

    They added a sim feature for the DC nodes in conquest, which has been fantastic and very well-received by the community. And guess what? You have to make the choice between feats progress and simming. Fair trade off. Outside of that I haven’t seen anyone asking to sim conquest, just a lot of conversation about making it less “grindy”.

    And yes, it would be great if Krayt and all future raids in the new system had the option to save and automatically resubmit your highest scores, so you only have to do it manually if you’ve actually made some improvements to your squads and have the capacity to improve your scores. Outside of that, why should people be forced to do the same redundant battles over and over for the same exact results? And guess what… YOU or anyone else who WANTS to, could still play it manually as often as you want.

    You’re creating an issue that doesn’t exist, because other people having the option to avoid repetitious gameplay if they so choose, literally has no impact on you whatsoever.

    Speaking strictly to simming. Obviously, reducing the frequency of content is a different conversation because that affects everyone if they change it.

    Edit: typos
    LordDirt wrote: »
    KDC99X wrote: »
    What skin is it off your nose if they add a sim feature? If someone has three starred something, they’ve invested time and energy into getting to that point, and should earn the ability to skip that content if they no longer wish to play it. If you’re so hell bent on doing it manually, you still can. What, do you still do your GW manually every day too so you “have something to do”?
    LordDirt wrote: »
    LordDirt wrote: »
    So just have CG create a big Sim button and we can just sim everything when we wake up everyday.

    I don't see why you are trolling this post like that...
    Look you are going in the in extrem proposition wich is realy not the essence of this post. We are talking about balancing the game and the time we have to invest in the game. If for you, conquest+tb+raid+gac at the sametime is not enough and you want more, it's ok. I respect that. But i manage an alliance of 6 guilds and i can tel you that the vast majority of the player base are overwhelm by all the things to do in the game when a conquest and a tb happens in the same time. And i can tell you also that the quality of their play is affected by that... forgetting to deploy, missng a platoon, not in time for arena...etc. everybody seems to exhausted by the game in that period...

    I say let him troll your post with the hyperbole, rhetoric, etc. It’s a super obvious device used by people with indefensible positions in an attempt to save face.

    Sorry but I actually like to play games and not watch or sim them.

    Older content it makes since but not newer content. Should we be able to sim the Krayt raid now? We get to keep our highest score? What about Conquest. After the first round of a new Conquest we get to sim the second and third to match the first? Do we all get to make changes to make things once a month because it would be nice for me to have GA a little as possible.

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    It's a resource management game. Now the resource is your RL time.
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