Grand Arena Completely Unfair Matchups

nsng
17 posts Member
Can someone please explain to me why I’m going against players that have 30+ relic characters while I have zero in grand arena? It’s clear as day these players paid for their teams while I didn’t and feel as if it is completely unfair and yet another way these terrible developers screw people over in this game.

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  • Only you know why you don’t have any relic characters. Perhaps you should get some geared up, rather than casting shade on people who’ve geared their roster up? (Hint - you can do it for free)
  • Wed_Santa wrote: »
    Only you know why you don’t have any relic characters. Perhaps you should get some geared up, rather than casting shade on people who’ve geared their roster up? (Hint - you can do it for free)

    Bro I’ve been grinding and I simply don’t have the resources yet to have any relic characters? Like I’m sorry I do play this game for free and don’t have the resources to get reliced characters yet? People like you shouldn’t be leaving comments man. Like I wonder why I don’t have relic characters? Hmmm let me think, maybe because I haven’t had the resources to get them and play the game as free to play game instead of spending tons of money on this game which I’m clearly going up against and it’s clear as day. Don’t comment on a post like this again unless you have something useful to contribute.
  • Since you have the answers, why don’t you tell me how to miraculously relic 4 of my teams for free without paying? Like your comment literally doesn’t help at all and it’s flat out rude.
  • TVF
    36416 posts Member
    nsng wrote: »
    Since you have the answers, why don’t you tell me how to miraculously relic 4 of my teams for free without paying?

    Keep playing
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  • TVF wrote: »
    nsng wrote: »
    Since you have the answers, why don’t you tell me how to miraculously relic 4 of my teams for free without paying?

    Keep playing

    Thats not an answer? Hate to break it to you, but that doesn’t help at all. I don’t understand why matchmaking simply can’t be better? Is that much a stretch just to ask for that?
  • TVF wrote: »
    nsng wrote: »
    Since you have the answers, why don’t you tell me how to miraculously relic 4 of my teams for free without paying?

    Keep playing

    Exactly how long do you need to keep playing? Like you’re giving the vaguest answer I’ve ever seen in my life (which isn’t really an answer at all). Why are you wasting my time with comments like that?
  • There isn't any matchmaking. There is no comparison of rosters at all.

    The thing that places players in the same bracket is the skill rating. That is an initially assigned number on your first GAC. I don't know if all players start on the same, or if it is gp based. After that SR changes based on wins and losses.

    It is impossible to know more about your situation, as you have not given enough info. First GAC? League? Win/loss for yourself at this point?

    The conclusion that you jump to that your opponent has spent money to have that roster has no basis that you show. That could be FTP that just hates GAC, or hasn't signed up in ages. It's fairly likely these days they have spent $30 on a few light speed bundles, hardly worth crying whale over.

    If you've just started, keep going. Most of the big rosters will only stay near your SR if they don't play. If they do play, you'll soon be left surrounded by players who have either been beaten, or who don't play. Score what you can, you'll eventually move ahead of the players who score 10 for minimum rewards, or zero for whatever reason. The oddly big rosters seem to be around in every league. But if they are lower than they should be, it can only mean you have a fair chance they will score 10 or zero. But once you get clear of the junk yard that is Carbonite, it's is much less common, I think.
  • TVF
    36416 posts Member
    edited January 20
    nsng wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    nsng wrote: »
    Since you have the answers, why don’t you tell me how to miraculously relic 4 of my teams for free without paying?

    Keep playing

    Thats not an answer?

    Sure it is, it answers how you relic four teams.
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  • nsng
    17 posts Member
    There isn't any matchmaking. There is no comparison of rosters at all.

    The thing that places players in the same bracket is the skill rating. That is an initially assigned number on your first GAC. I don't know if all players start on the same, or if it is gp based. After that SR changes based on wins and losses.

    It is impossible to know more about your situation, as you have not given enough info. First GAC? League? Win/loss for yourself at this point?

    The conclusion that you jump to that your opponent has spent money to have that roster has no basis that you show. That could be FTP that just hates GAC, or hasn't signed up in ages. It's fairly likely these days they have spent $30 on a few light speed bundles, hardly worth crying whale over.

    If you've just started, keep going. Most of the big rosters will only stay near your SR if they don't play. If they do play, you'll soon be left surrounded by players who have either been beaten, or who don't play. Score what you can, you'll eventually move ahead of the players who score 10 for minimum rewards, or zero for whatever reason. The oddly big rosters seem to be around in every league. But if they are lower than they should be, it can only mean you have a fair chance they will score 10 or zero. But once you get clear of the junk yard that is Carbonite, it's is much less common, I think.
    There isn't any matchmaking. There is no comparison of rosters at all.

    The thing that places players in the same bracket is the skill rating. That is an initially assigned number on your first GAC. I don't know if all players start on the same, or if it is gp based. After that SR changes based on wins and losses.

    It is impossible to know more about your situation, as you have not given enough info. First GAC? League? Win/loss for yourself at this point?

    The conclusion that you jump to that your opponent has spent money to have that roster has no basis that you show. That could be FTP that just hates GAC, or hasn't signed up in ages. It's fairly likely these days they have spent $30 on a few light speed bundles, hardly worth crying whale over.

    If you've just started, keep going. Most of the big rosters will only stay near your SR if they don't play. If they do play, you'll soon be left surrounded by players who have either been beaten, or who don't play. Score what you can, you'll eventually move ahead of the players who score 10 for minimum rewards, or zero for whatever reason. The oddly big rosters seem to be around in every league. But if they are lower than they should be, it can only mean you have a fair chance they will score 10 or zero. But once you get clear of the junk yard that is Carbonite, it's is much less common, I think.

    I am in Carbonite 3 and It seems I keep running into teams with 30+ relic characters and I can never win more than 1 match per GAC, so I mostly just go 1-2. I just want to know what makes it so difficult to just make it based off GP. I don’t understand how it’s based off skill rating but nothing else in the game is based off skill rating. I just feel like it’s super lazy of the developers to not have a system. Or perhaps they need to offer better rewards, to allow a possibility of fending off well in GAC. I simply think it’s just a way of EA trying to rip off customers of making them want to spend as much money as possible to upgrade and stay competitive.
  • Lumiya
    1386 posts Member
    Sure you can relic your teams ftp. You don't need to spend money to be able to do so.

    1 step in the right direction is to build up your fleets so you can get better placements in fleet arena and earn crystals.

    Another step would be to find a good guild where you also can earn resources you need to relic your characters. For that it would be important to see, what the guilds are looking for, how you can contribute. Then build up the squads needed that make guilds interested in you.

    Those are just 2 examples but they alone can change a lot how you will be able to develop your roster. I don't know how long you are playing, but I could start with relics quite early by just simply being in a good guild and getting high placements in fleet arena.
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  • nsng wrote: »
    I am in Carbonite 3 and It seems I keep running into teams with 30+ relic characters and I can never win more than 1 match per GAC, so I mostly just go 1-2. I just want to know what makes it so difficult to just make it based off GP. I don’t understand how it’s based off skill rating but nothing else in the game is based off skill rating. I just feel like it’s super lazy of the developers to not have a system. Or perhaps they need to offer better rewards, to allow a possibility of fending off well in GAC. I simply think it’s just a way of EA trying to rip off customers of making them want to spend as much money as possible to upgrade and stay competitive.

    Most of the time this is accurate, in general 1 person will go 3-0, 1 person will go 0-3, 3 people will go 2-1, and 3 people will go 1-2. So yea, most likely you will go 1-2 or 2-1, and as was mentioned a lot of the bigger rosters or even more focused rosters with relics will be minimally playing or if they spent $$ and are actively playing will move out. As for making based off GP, they had that before (years ago) but it was a cluster, if you simple wait and focus you should get a couple 2-1's as well as 1-2's, especially if you actively play.

    As for relic'ing faster from Carbonite, look at how you get resources. First, if you arent in one, get in a guild the Raids, TW/TB payouts will accelerate growth and there are many casual guilds out there that wont mind a small roster size (alliances are also good for this as it gives a couple guilds to work from). You can spend the currency on Signal Data for relics or gear to get them into relics, its not the most efficient but it will strengthen teams,

    Second look at the various assault battles, for example Ground war is currently running which is Jedi/Ewoks/Ugnauts the higher you go the more resources, focus on one team(Jedi) at a time to get into the Challenge Tier 1 which requires Relic 3, and then Challenge Tier 2 (Relic 5). As well as the Galactic challenges
    your goal is boxes the better box the more omicrons and mod improvements. Dont chase every galactic challenge, or every assault battle; for what you are asking for you want to reach the Challenge 1 and 2 tiers, and the 75+ crates.
  • rickertron
    312 posts Member
    edited January 21
    Getting characters to relic level takes time, it's not easy if you are f2p, if you want relic easy, than spend money and even than it's not easy. Nothing in this game happens overnight. Farming is a grind. Upgrade 1 or 2 characters at a time to relic, the more you try to relic at once the slower the process. Try to Relic leaders of teams first, than the rest of team. Good luck, find your small victories to keep you going during the grind. Try to be better than the guy next to you, not the superstar in kyber 1 and you will be fine.
  • 0Nox0 wrote: »
    All these people trolling you are likely either ignorant, or just stupid.

    In the past GAC format your GAC matches were locked in via GP brackets. Where your roster choices and skill heavily influenced the outcome of every match. Which resulted in hyper focused GAC rosters, who would fighter other equally focus rosters making for some of the most amazing gameplay.

    Every forum posts complaining about previous matchmaking and my numerous easy victories in the old system (and there was a lot of both) beg to differ.

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  • nsng wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    nsng wrote: »
    Since you have the answers, why don’t you tell me how to miraculously relic 4 of my teams for free without paying?

    Keep playing

    Exactly how long do you need to keep playing? Like you’re giving the vaguest answer I’ve ever seen in my life (which isn’t really an answer at all). Why are you wasting my time with comments like that?

    Depends on how often you spend crystals on refreshes, which is a completely viable strat for f2p,
    I know because I am one,

    Also calm down bro
  • nsng wrote: »
    Wed_Santa wrote: »
    Only you know why you don’t have any relic characters. Perhaps you should get some geared up, rather than casting shade on people who’ve geared their roster up? (Hint - you can do it for free)

    Bro I’ve been grinding and I simply don’t have the resources yet to have any relic characters? Like I’m sorry I do play this game for free and don’t have the resources to get reliced characters yet? People like you shouldn’t be leaving comments man. Like I wonder why I don’t have relic characters? Hmmm let me think, maybe because I haven’t had the resources to get them and play the game as free to play game instead of spending tons of money on this game which I’m clearly going up against and it’s clear as day. Don’t comment on a post like this again unless you have something useful to contribute.

    I get your frustration over these issue, i myself didn't like it, but as the game developed i changed my farming methods, you have it easier now than most of us did when the game started out, the accelerated drop rates, Assault battles, galactic Challenges, all these ways are new in the last 2-3 years (it may be more but i'm not a historian).

    The method you are suggesting to base it off GP was tried previously and as stated by others it was messy. People would actively not gear up characters, hell, not even unlock them because it bloated their roster and moved them within reach of higher rosters, so you had this situation whereby people would strip mods off loads of characters to not be above a specific threshold.

    As has been stated by other people here, there are a number of ways you can get to relic, Guilds are a great way to get mods and currency for gear and relic materials. guilds also get you access to raids and territory battles and wars which again give you loads of rewards including crystals, datacron materials, credits, and gear, not to mention the guild currency as well which can be used for characters, relic materials and gear.

    With regards to what someone else said here about focusing on characters, this can be a bit of an art, for example you want to have a lot of good teams however, there are some teams that only need 1 character to be geared up high, the key example i can think of is Qui Gon Jinn with his Omicron. i've seen a number of people have the omicron on Qui Gon, but he is gear 4, and the rest of the toons are not much better, except for Jedi Knight Anakin, he would be at Relic 7 as he is a requirement for a GL, but he is the main threat from the QGJ team as his damage when QGJ is killed sky rockets, and he also gains bonus turns when other Jedi get to low health or die

    Finally i would mention that if you have a low GP things do move slower because you have less access to events etc, so things will be slow, however as you build your roster more you will get more and more events you can take part in and by extension get more rewards that give you more stuff. Just imagine a snowball on a mountain, it starts of small and not much of a threat, but as it goes on its journey it gets bigger and bigger until it is a real threat, same thing can apply here.

    sorry i do understand this is a long reply but it was necessary to give you the information
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