Should the gear in the guild store prices be changed?

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FinalGreyJedi
401 posts Member
edited May 2016
Note: 5 pieces of salvage costs 1,650 guild currency and 25 pieces of salvage costs 8,250 guild currency. To put this into perspective, number 1 in HEROIC receives only 1,120 currency not even enough for a 5 piece salvage. Now we do get currency with our daily activities, but 4/7 days are FTP and the most coins you can get from being number 1 on a P2P day is around 600. This is Ludicrous to me.

Should the gear in the guild store prices be changed? 235 votes

Yes
85%
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No
14%
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  • Yes
    The guilds, for which we all have been waiting for are a useless waste of time and money. 25 pieces of some **** loot for 8000 guild coins? What a crap! You need one month to get one pieces of gear. Lot of investment of real money for nothing. Come on EA, there is a better way for all of us to leave, as unbalanced prices in the guid shop really suck!
  • Jedi_Yoda
    928 posts Member
    No
    Play any top level online game see how long it takes to get gear.. that gear you can't even buy you have to WAIT, sometimes WEEKS..

    same here at least you can get it eventually its high to make you compete, earn more to get better stuff. Its the dangling carrot.. if you get enough coin you can still BUY pieces you didn't win outright.. its a way to get it without a top 3 slot.

    I think its good where its at. It's only frustrating because you want to be first person to get it or first person to get gear XI. Game is supposed to be a challenge not a gateway to rewards.. the fun is in the game.
  • Arube
    1026 posts Member
    No
    Jedi_Yoda wrote: »
    Play any top level online game see how long it takes to get gear.. that gear you can't even buy you have to WAIT, sometimes WEEKS..

    Basically.
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  • Jamie_SWGOH
    160 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    Edit - ah, it got moved.
  • Yes
    Almost everyone will say yes to this but it will not do anything.The guild system itself is based off of players paying for refreshes. The more you need an item the more you are willing to pay for it.
    Come on now, you have been around long enough to know how this game works, it only claims to be f2p. At some point we need to accept this and move on (collectively), it will never change.
  • Nightlores
    1608 posts Member
    Yes
    With 400 coins a day average it only takes 41 days to gather 50 mats........ Thats 206 shards.
  • Yes
    Jedi_Yoda wrote: »
    Play any top level online game see how long it takes to get gear.. that gear you can't even buy you have to WAIT, sometimes WEEKS..

    same here at least you can get it eventually its high to make you compete, earn more to get better stuff. Its the dangling carrot.. if you get enough coin you can still BUY pieces you didn't win outright.. its a way to get it without a top 3 slot.

    I think its good where its at. It's only frustrating because you want to be first person to get it or first person to get gear XI. Game is supposed to be a challenge not a gateway to rewards.. the fun is in the game.

    You do realize what's frustrating about this is the precraft disparity and the over pricing. I Am very familiar with how top online games are, I was in a top guild in world of Warcraft but their reward system was much better than this. You do have to wait but there was currency and full gear, multiple pieces of gear per boss, and currency for everyone. It made the wait less grueling. Trust me this game does not emit that of a top tier online game. No where near that for them to be overpricing things
  • Lambi
    473 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    No
    I put no, because there has to be a grind in a freemium. Why would they make this stuff cheap... Just be happy they listened and did this for us. Made the impossible grind alot more possible.
  • Yes
    Nightlores wrote: »
    With 400 coins a day average it only takes 41 days to gather 50 mats........ Thats 206 shards.

    Not worth the grind. Other top tier online games take a couple weeks because of competition, not overpriced gear currency.
  • StarSon
    7431 posts Member
    No
    No, I think it's fine. Yes, I know it will take forever for anyone to be able to buy them. No, I don't think that's a problem.
  • Yes
    Lambi wrote: »
    I put no, because there has to be a grind in a freemium. Why would they make this stuff cheap... Just be happy they listened and did this for us. Made the impossible grind alot more possible.

    I disagree partially. The grind part I agree with but for it to be like this is just dumb. The rewards system, the heroic raid, all need fixing and then it would be more of a grind. The fact that heroic isn't a grind says something and that number 1 on there still has to wait weeks for gear says more. Heroic is supposed to be the last line and most challenging but it's the complete opposite.
  • Yes
    StarSon wrote: »
    No, I think it's fine. Yes, I know it will take forever for anyone to be able to buy them. No, I don't think that's a problem.

    I only find it to be a problem because it's quite literally forever.
  • HanSlowMo
    235 posts Member
    Yes
    Nightlores wrote: »
    With 400 coins a day average it only takes 41 days to gather 50 mats........ Thats 206 shards.

    Not worth the grind. Other top tier online games take a couple weeks because of competition, not overpriced gear currency.

    And if that comparison relates to MMOs, other RPGs...that's typically for one character, your main. Not 64 different heroes you'd like to try out if you want something different or if the meta changes.
  • FinalGreyJedi
    401 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    Yes
    HanSlowMo wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    With 400 coins a day average it only takes 41 days to gather 50 mats........ Thats 206 shards.

    Not worth the grind. Other top tier online games take a couple weeks because of competition, not overpriced gear currency.

    And if that comparison relates to MMOs, other RPGs...that's typically for one character, your main. Not 64 different heroes you'd like to try out if you want something different or if the meta changes.

    Yes my point exactly. There are a plethora of heroes that need this gear not just one main. Top tier online games have mains only and it takes long to get gear due to competition. At this rate it would take **** near 3-4 months to grind one piece of gear for each of your main squad
  • Lambi
    473 posts Member
    No
    Lambi wrote: »
    I put no, because there has to be a grind in a freemium. Why would they make this stuff cheap... Just be happy they listened and did this for us. Made the impossible grind alot more possible.

    I disagree partially. The grind part I agree with but for it to be like this is just dumb. The rewards system, the heroic raid, all need fixing and then it would be more of a grind. The fact that heroic isn't a grind says something and that number 1 on there still has to wait weeks for gear says more. Heroic is supposed to be the last line and most challenging but it's the complete opposite.

    It takes 3-4 weeks to farm... That's about right. Plus you have a reason to do daily guild challenges...
  • djvita
    1684 posts Member
    Yes
    Here is a proposal of prices

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    Mk10 Hololens
    25 for 4350

    Mk5 nubian
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    Better?
  • SSB
    72 posts Member
    Yes
    HanSlowMo wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    With 400 coins a day average it only takes 41 days to gather 50 mats........ Thats 206 shards.

    Not worth the grind. Other top tier online games take a couple weeks because of competition, not overpriced gear currency.

    And if that comparison relates to MMOs, other RPGs...that's typically for one character, your main. Not 64 different heroes you'd like to try out if you want something different or if the meta changes.

    Yes my point exactly. There are a plethora of heroes that need this gear not just one main. Top tier online games have mains only and it takes long to get gear due to competition. At this rate it would take **** near 3-4 months to grind one piece of gear for each of your main squad

    I agree to your agreement of the guy who agreed first
  • Yudoka
    1274 posts Member
    Yes
    Jedi_Yoda wrote: »
    Play any top level online game see how long it takes to get gear.. that gear you can't even buy you have to WAIT, sometimes WEEKS..

    same here at least you can get it eventually its high to make you compete, earn more to get better stuff. Its the dangling carrot.. if you get enough coin you can still BUY pieces you didn't win outright.. its a way to get it without a top 3 slot.

    I think its good where its at. It's only frustrating because you want to be first person to get it or first person to get gear XI. Game is supposed to be a challenge not a gateway to rewards.. the fun is in the game.

    Do these games also require 5+ characters to all be at the same power level in order to be competitive?

    It also wouldn't have been as much of an issue if it was for precrafting. A handful of people have a huge advantage over everyone else in both arena and raids which results in them also collecting the bulk of the rewards which makes that much longer for everyone else to try and catch up. EA screwed up by allowing the gear to be precrafted and then shutting an iron gate on it for everyone else.
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  • FinalGreyJedi
    401 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    Yes
    HanSlowMo wrote: »
    Nightlores wrote: »
    With 400 coins a day average it only takes 41 days to gather 50 mats........ Thats 206 shards.

    Not worth the grind. Other top tier online games take a couple weeks because of competition, not overpriced gear currency.

    And if that comparison relates to MMOs, other RPGs...that's typically for one character, your main. Not 64 different heroes you'd like to try out if you want something different or if the meta changes.

    Yes my point exactly. There are a plethora of heroes that need this gear not just one main. Top tier online games have mains only and it takes long to get gear due to competition
    Lambi wrote: »
    Lambi wrote: »
    I put no, because there has to be a grind in a freemium. Why would they make this stuff cheap... Just be happy they listened and did this for us. Made the impossible grind alot more possible.

    I disagree partially. The grind part I agree with but for it to be like this is just dumb. The rewards system, the heroic raid, all need fixing and then it would be more of a grind. The fact that heroic isn't a grind says something and that number 1 on there still has to wait weeks for gear says more. Heroic is supposed to be the last line and most challenging but it's the complete opposite.

    It takes 3-4 weeks to farm... That's about right. Plus you have a reason to do daily guild challenges...



    To farm for ONE character out of the many in rosters. Reminder we need FIVE characters for arena to be fun and competitive. So multiply that 3-4 weeks x 5
    Edit: this is my response ^
  • FinalGreyJedi
    401 posts Member
    edited May 2016
    Yes
    Edit: bugged post
  • V1p3rdyn4sty
    2674 posts Member
    Yes
    Just when they removed their head from their #! $. Had made so many good decisions. They pull this "//€£. John, you made us wait five weeks to obtain this. Now you'll make us wait weeks more? Bad decisions. We've been at a stop sign for over a month. Some of our best and favorite characters are stuck in purgatory.
  • Gutazedo
    78 posts Member
    Yes
    Lambi wrote: »
    Lambi wrote: »
    I put no, because there has to be a grind in a freemium. Why would they make this stuff cheap... Just be happy they listened and did this for us. Made the impossible grind alot more possible.

    I disagree partially. The grind part I agree with but for it to be like this is just dumb. The rewards system, the heroic raid, all need fixing and then it would be more of a grind. The fact that heroic isn't a grind says something and that number 1 on there still has to wait weeks for gear says more. Heroic is supposed to be the last line and most challenging but it's the complete opposite.

    It takes 3-4 weeks to farm... That's about right. Plus you have a reason to do daily guild challenges...

    There was a reason already! It's called Guild Shop exclusive characters!!!
  • fudgra
    982 posts Member
    Yes
    Definitely. I decided to keep on farming JE until they come up with something reasonable.

    If the prices were for all 50 pieces of salvage that we need, it would be doable. Spending two months worth of guild currency just to craft one piece of gear is garbage.
  • Yes
    To those saying "its 3-4 weeks it shouldn't be easy" remember that there are a total of 82 characters. Not even whales will be able to gear up their beloved toons. Even if it's just your arena squad, 3-4 weeks for 5 toons, 15-20 weeks for just your arena squad and God forbid you want to tinker with others
  • fudgra
    982 posts Member
    Yes
    To those saying "its 3-4 weeks it shouldn't be easy" remember that there are a total of 82 characters. Not even whales will be able to gear up their beloved toons. Even if it's just your arena squad, 3-4 weeks for 5 toons, 15-20 weeks for just your arena squad and God forbid you want to tinker with others

    Unless someone's coming in at the top of tier 5/6 raids consistently and also the daily guild activities, it'll take longer than 3-4 weeks for one piece. Twice that long for me and I'm slightly above the average payout range in my guild.
  • Amalthea
    691 posts Member
    No
    I am not in favor of how they implemented the guild gear, but I disagree with making it cheaper from the guild store. You're supposed to get the gear from raids, and the guild store is just to finish up an item (or later when you no longer want shards). You are not expected to buy the entire item via the guild store.

    I would like a change to how they give gear from raids. My suggestion would be to give the top 3 people on each phase a reward (given when the phase ends), and then give everyone an identical reward when the raid is defeated. Each reward would have the same amount of a random gear mat (~10 on T6) or a small chance for a full piece.
  • Baldo
    2863 posts Member
    Yes
    EVERYONE VOTING NO IS LITERALLY SLOW
  • JbizzyG
    304 posts Member
    No
    It's taken me 3 weeks to get 50 stun cuffs. A month to buy mats for the droid called or furnace isn't so bad.
  • Yes
    Baldo wrote: »
    EVERYONE VOTING NO IS LITERALLY SLOW

    Yep. They don't understand what having multiple characters who need this gear means. It's not like WoW where you have one main. This is different and yes I like challenges but this is ludicrous
  • Yes
    JbizzyG wrote: »
    It's taken me 3 weeks to get 50 stun cuffs. A month to buy mats for the droid called or furnace isn't so bad.

    But if you recall raids were implemented for a new game mode and to help the gear grind not be as bad. This is raid-only gear it only shows the 4 pieces that are raid obtainable only. Stun cuffs I get you can get from raids but the other gear isn't even a given to get each time.
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