It's all well and good that Fives can feasibly handle a 1 v 4 confrontation, but is it too much to ask for a "Fives" vs five Arena stoush?
I propose a new ability: Bow Before Your Clone God (Unique)
On each successful counter, Fives' enemy will kneel before Fives and beg for mercy, at which point said enemy will be summarily executed, and Fives regains 50% health.
Reasonable?
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There are more toons that need consideration/re-work. E.g. Anakin and FOTP who people spent hours/cash grinding.
FYI there are two decent F2P stun toons already. Daka and RG.
I almost spit coffee out of my mouth reading this. It was the **** and funniest thing I ever read about this game.
I have fives, but dont use him and the idea sounds great! Would make facing him challenging and fun, if it only works on counters as descriptions says, a few ways to deal with him still exists.
Now he's actually a threat if you do that.
He's a tauntless tank. They need something to make them dangerous or there is no point.
They don't need to nerf Fives. They need to make other tauntless tanks, like Finn and Mace, better.
Absolutely right about that! He can be countered so no problems there, but other tanks that pose no threat at all must be made viable for disparity's sake!
EXACTLY. Thank you. "<INSERT TOON> is totally OP." = I haven't farmed and worked that one yet, so it's not fair. He's finally a great team addition at lvl 76; it would be a stupid shame if they messed with him.
Qgj (l), rey, han, daka, GS for me.
This is true but it's because why would someone attack him first when his counter hits twice and takes huge chunks of your hp away and there is no way you can kill him before the rest of their team kills yours.
I whittle away at him during the fight whenever possible. If there are no major threats, RG always hits him; if the stun lands, everyone whacks him. Same with Daka, if she gets a secondary on him, everyone whacks him.
Rey has offense up and foresight? Whack.
Etc.
That's the thing, gotta put the stun on him to win. Him paired with ben lead is so very nasty since he will avoid those stuns the majority of the time.
Btw I've been talking about the fully geared and omegaed up fives. Anything below that is not a threat at all.
For the record I don't own a 5s. But this moaning is just ridiculous
+1
You aren't going to beat him with glass cannons alone - you have to outsmart him and play to his weakness. The same goes for every "OP" toon. He stuns very easy.
There is a strategy to this game. You can't just hire all heavy hitters and expect to win.
I usually focus on fives when there are 3 left. Rey with dodge hits him, and my assist attacks and stuns. The others go after the other 2. Him and RG are the first two chars that require thought on how to deal with as opposed to just having a kill order.
He's now serviceable with the double tap. And even with that he hits pretty soft.
At least he doesn't counter, then a bonus turn, stunning and ability blocking 1-2 toons. Then dodges your attack, gaining offense up, then attacking and getting another bonus attack stunning and/or ability blocking 1-2 of your toons and then caps it off with force lightning stunning 1-2 of your toons. Just sayin.
This isn't a bad idea actually. Maybe he could also give the team offense, speed and crit up every time he uses his special. Along with the heal to protection with every shot of his basic, this may make 5's viable finally.
#buff5s
Don't nerf Rey either, btw, even though I'm saying she's a better toon than Fives.
The same can be done with Yoda at the end of a match. Although Yoda is squishy, he keeps getting foresight until 5s is under 50%. Yoda will be full if at this point because foresight and should outlast 5's (especially if he lands a stun once under 50%.) So there, even without favorable RNG a squishy toon can finish off fives 1 on 1 at the end of a match.
It's one thing to lose because your strategy wasn't right, and another to lose 3v1 to Fives. Just saying! I don't want no nerfs either on anybody, especially now!
These are the same thing.
Yoda can kill Old Ben 1v1. I got into that exact situation yesterday. I lost with Yoda but only because Ben dodged 2 in the end after i took him to yellow! So he can beat even Ben 1v1. However Yoda can't win 1v1 against Fives. Yoda will go first, get foresight, then CT 5s will remove it, then CT 5s will do his attack and slow Yoda and game over.