Space Slugs looking to merge for a shot at the Heroic raid

Nerfherder17

Hey guys, slug commander here. I have an idea that could be mutually beneficial for both parties involved. I would like to merge my guild with another guild of comparable make-up for a one time run at the heroic raid. I have a mix of whales, dolphins, and serious F2P players in the guild. My problem is the bottom half of the guild is lacking the roster to field more than one or two 7* teams. My suggestion is this: we form a new guild which I will foot the bill for. We take my top 25 guys, and your top 25 guys and siphon them over to the new guild. It will take a day or two to get settled and aquire the needed currency. We can leave someone as leader in out absence. They should be able to run T5 raids while we are gone. This needs to be a merge of 2, or possibly 3 guilds. It won't work with individuals from multiple guilds. I will need to coordinate everything with my slugs through the guild before the merge, and you will need to do the same. If anyone is interested please let me know. If you don't want to talk publicly for whatever reason, send me A PM and we can negotiate/hash out the details from there. Looking forward to making a run at the heroic raid!

Nerfherder17

I believe it should be relatively easy to complete with 50 solid players. If not, at least we have a good measurement of where we need to be to complete.

Timitock

Yeah good luck with that...

Nerfherder17

Wow. You really are something special arent you? Let me guess, glass is half empty type of guy? You must be fun at bah mitzvahs.

Timitock

You have unrealistic expectations.

You think another guild is going to dissolve and give you all its good members, taking all your dreg inactives?

Toukai

I am f2p and I can field like 3-4 teams. But, sadly, by the time i see raid up its already at 20% and I hit the bottom rung. I also help on the pig-people if I do see it up, which inevitably screws me when it gets to the door phase since now all my guys are dead, and people get free crit rounds on the rancor.

Nerfherder17

Nope. You absolutely read the entire post incorrectly. Short version for the A.D.D. generation. My top 25 guys. Your top 25 guys. NEW guild. Run a heroic raid. Collect loot. Dissolve and go back to your original guild.

Nerfherder17

I feel you @toukai. I Can 3 or 4 max teams. The T5 seems too easy, T6 harder, but much longer. I feel like a lot of the slugs in the bottom half don't get to play much because they lack the roster.

Toukai

Widget_gaget wrote: »

I feel you @toukai. I Can 3 or 4 max teams. The T5 seems too easy, T6 harder, but much longer. I feel like a lot of the slugs in the bottom half don't get to play much because they lack the roster.

@Widget_gaget
The problem with the raids right now is just insane. Other people have mentioned it too. Some people sit back and snipe the second phase after the piggies just to throw themselves ontop of the dps meter. I can pull about 120-150k damage on the pigs, but the moment it hits door phase you get free rounds of crits and some people and push upwards of 300-400k in this phase.

They just need to make raids give the same payouts to everyone once the raid is complete. Bam, this whole dps "top players remain top players by getting top gear" disappears.

Nerfherder17

That could backfire too. Some guys would go in with bare minimum toons and loose just to get it over with. They get the same loot you do.

CWent

Widget_gaget wrote: »

That could backfire too. Some guys would go in with bare minimum toons and loose just to get it over with. They get the same loot you do.

That's true. Carrying the weight of union grunts who are just there for a paycheck would be infuriating. Socialism is not the answer, but there's gotta be a solution somewhere in the middle.

Toukai

Widget_gaget wrote: »

That could backfire too. Some guys would go in with bare minimum toons and loose just to get it over with. They get the same loot you do.

@Widget_gaget

I disagree. Bare minimum means a longer raid time, which holds off on you and everyone else getting gear. They are only shooting themselves in the foot if they did that.

The dps meter should still be there, but only as a check for the leader/others to find out who is not up to par, and why. For example, you can check someones roster and see if they have champs worth using or if they truly are doing bare minimum. The dps meter shouldnt have an impact on who gets gear.

Nerfherder17

I think they are slowly getting there. Twisting the knobs and fiddling with the levers, small adjustments. Maybe top 10 get the slightly larger payouts and the rest get to draw from a lesser prize pool. Top 3 is tough to crack. I can assure you that if we were competing for top 10 rather than top 3 there would be a lot more competition and contribution because 10 spots are much more attainable than top 3.

Nerfherder17

It would be like arena paying the top 100 epic loot, and 101-10,000 would get the same worthless junk. you wouldnt be able to compete with the whales in top 100.

Nerfherder17

I have guys in the guild that barely contribute as it is @Toukai . If they could throw 5 players in a raid, kill them off in 2 minutes, and go on with their day, do you think they care if the raid takes 9 hours instead of 5?

Toukai

Widget_gaget wrote: »

I have guys in the guild that barely contribute as it is @Toukai . If they could throw 5 players in a raid, kill them off in 2 minutes, and go on with their day, do you think they care if the raid takes 9 hours instead of 5?

@Widget_gaget
Why do you want a guild to compete amongst itself? Everyone in the guild should share equal reward, and only guilds should compete with other guilds.

If there is dead weight, which there ALWAYS is in every game, that is for the leader or top members to decide on if they get the boot. It shouldn't be a means to getting gear.

The way it is now, top players remain top players by getting top loot, who dont need it because they are top players.

Meanwhile, people like me who need gear don't get it because I dont pull top DPS by sniping specific portions of the raid. I get punished for contributing on the harder parts of the raid.

Nerfherder17

I dont necessarily want guild members to compete, but its obvious that CG wants it that way.but i do think its nice that top contributers are recognized. If we look at it this way, the loot pool is the same for everyone. if 1-2-3 didnt get extra gear everyone would have the same chance. The way it works noweveryone draws from the same pool, but 1-2-3 get an extra bump. They arent keeping everyone else from earning, they are getting extra.

CWent

Toukai wrote: »

Widget_gaget wrote: »

I have guys in the guild that barely contribute as it is @Toukai . If they could throw 5 players in a raid, kill them off in 2 minutes, and go on with their day, do you think they care if the raid takes 9 hours instead of 5?

@Widget_gaget
Why do you want a guild to compete amongst itself? Everyone in the guild should share equal reward, and only guilds should compete with other guilds.

If there is dead weight, which there ALWAYS is in every game, that is for the leader or top members to decide on if they get the boot. It shouldn't be a means to getting gear.

The way it is now, top players remain top players by getting top loot, who dont need it because they are top players.

Meanwhile, people like me who need gear don't get it because I dont pull top DPS by sniping specific portions of the raid. I get punished for contributing on the harder parts of the raid.

Top players are at the top for a reason. This isn't the real world, where a$$ crack trust fund babies can live the life Riley on the coin of their ancestry. Top players either played longer, Paid in, leveled the right toons by luck or foresight, and probably a combination of all three. If you're not paying, then what you need is time. This is coming from a middling competitor, never sniffed the top ten in raids. I don't think the guys raking the top haul are sniping certain phases. They have deeper / stronger rosters or are just better at in game strategy than me.

Nerfherder17

we have one interested party. trying to work out the logistics and determine whether or not our teams are on par for the challenge. If anyone else is interested please let me know. I would like to have a contingency plan if this doesnt work out. There is also the possibility of merging a 3rd team in if we feel that our current rosters are insufficient.

Usho

and the worst guild leader award goes to

Nerfherder17

what does that mean?

Usho

what does what mean ? ofc not you silly, more like baldo or timitock

Nerfherder17

TheJanitor

Any word from the other guild yet? This sounds like a good plan.

Usho

TheJanitor wrote: »

Any word from the other guild yet? This sounds like a good plan.

Youre not a part of the plan though

Nerfherder17

Still trying to iron out the details.

TheJanitor

Usho wrote: »

TheJanitor wrote: »

Any word from the other guild yet? This sounds like a good plan.

Youre not a part of the plan though

My pride. Now I have to go rethink my life.

Nerfherder17

aww. thats harsh. you are in the plan for sure.

TheJanitor

Rethinking my life must have worked! I'm part of the plan again!

Usho

gratz janitor !

Usho

When we merge ?