Raid reward system SUPER unfair

Flimsy
13 posts Member
edited June 2016
I have come to realize that I could amount 10,000 hours of playing time in this game and never become more powerful than someone with maybe 300 hours, as long as they were more powerful than me when this raid reward junk started. That is not right and should not be how any game intends to work.

It's all because the only rewards that matter at high level are the raids, which are severely limited by artificial (effectively) time constraints and no matter how much more time and effort I put into my game someone w greater power when these nonsense rewards started will claim EXPONENTIALLY greater rewards w just one battle. The gap between them and me will actually widen no matter how much more effort and time I put in. Yay, just like real life some will say.

If I write more this post will be so long that everyone ignores it. What's above is true and what incentive is there to play a game like this until this st*pid system introduced well after the game began is eliminated?

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    In this game, the following are most powerful:

    1) Credit Card
    2) Pre-crafting
    3) The right gear in shipments
    4) T-16 guild-hopping
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    +1.
  • Vampire_X
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    Gotta say its true

    You breed internal unrest in this system and uneven gearing of a guild. When the next guild raid comes out and is harder based on needing more gear! You will see guilds tear apart all the top 5 of guilds will leave to form guilds who can compete and the cycle repeats as top earners reap benefits and welfare to the rest

    Make top 10 earn shards like han or something exclusive , but gear rewards should not be treated this way especially on heroic
    Wicked Sith Queen with the Pink Saber
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    I'm not lauding the reward system, but overall I don't have an issue with it. Anyway, maybe I don't understand you, but you're saying that someone who is already more powerful than you should not be furthered in their powerfulness and that raids should even the playing field? If so, I don't see why raids should help me catch a whale who continues at their same pace.

    And by the way, if you can't catch up to the guy logging in 300 hours by playing 10,000 then you need a new strategy. And money should always give you an advantage otherwise why pay anything?
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    Had a rank 49 pull a full furnace from T7 rewards...system completely fine as is.
  • Alexone
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    Had a rank 49 pull a full furnace from T7 rewards...system completely fine as is.

    It's awesome. Let us know how many more furnaces that guy will pull over the next 3 months.
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    Alexone wrote: »
    Had a rank 49 pull a full furnace from T7 rewards...system completely fine as is.

    It's awesome. Let us know how many more furnaces that guy will pull over the next 3 months.

    Gear rewards are RNG like everything else in the game, what's new
  • Palanthian
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    I do think that coming 30th in a T7 raid should provide more than 15 salvage. Getting into the top 10 is for a privileged few who might have a gear 10 Teebo for P1, etc.

    The raid system doesn't encourage teamwork, only envy.
  • Flimsy
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    Even if I spend my actual cash money, at the end it would be a more powerful guy collecting the rare gear it helped to generate, even if that guy does next to nothing in terms of effort or time (don't twist my words; I did not say a whale continuing at his same pace). That's the basic problem with the raid rewards system.

    The number of rare gear is limited by the number of high level raids, which is limited by guild bank coins. It's an artificial cap and effectively takes from many and gives to the few with no way for me to control or hardly influence my own rewards. It all goes to the guys who already have the gear no matter what.

    Would you play at a casino where no matter what you wagered all your winnings went to guy who sat down first, no matter how much he wagers or plays himself?

    I see no way around it except to try to abuse other players or the system. Its cra p.
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    Build a teebo squad that can do over 1M damage in T7 and you should be placing top 10 every time. You can do it with a f2p lineup.
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  • Palanthian
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    Build a teebo squad that can do over 1M damage in T7 and you should be placing top 10 every time. You can do it with a f2p lineup.

    That really is useless advice, here's why (no offence btw). To get Teebo and EE fully geared with furnaces, callers and scanners requires, guess what - placing top 10 in a T7 raid. The guy placing 30+ in a T7 will be months away from building that team. We'll probably be playing another raid by then.
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    in my guild heroic raids, if u re late 3 minutes u lost the first phase, so unless ur teebo has a time travel skill, i think heroic just make the system worst
  • Flimsy
    13 posts Member
    edited June 2016
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    This is turning into a disregard-able thread, but here's a game you can play with your friends:

    1. Everyone puts $1 in the pot and gets 1 die.
    2. Everyone rolls. Highest roll wins all the money PLUS the winner gets 10 more dice.
    3. Everyone puts in another dollar (or however much you want since it doesn't matter) and rolls all of the dice they have. Highest total wins and the winner takes all again, plus another 10 dice to the winner because hey, why not.

    How long do you play that game?
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    Palanthian wrote: »
    Build a teebo squad that can do over 1M damage in T7 and you should be placing top 10 every time. You can do it with a f2p lineup.

    That really is useless advice, here's why (no offence btw). To get Teebo and EE fully geared with furnaces, callers and scanners requires, guess what - placing top 10 in a T7 raid. The guy placing 30+ in a T7 will be months away from building that team. We'll probably be playing another raid by then.

    If you're not at a point where you're earning 400-500 crystals a day in arena, then perhaps you should work on that first? All the necessary gear will be available in shipments. The raids are set up so that the people that do have most extensive rosters will do better, that's how it should be. Focus on toons that help you in the raids and arena. Maybe it is months away, but if you work at it you'll get there and be able to stay there. This is a game of strategy, and the top rewards shouldn't be given out in large quantities to all players.
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  • Vampire_X
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    edited June 2016
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    Exactly its timing not squads, heroic is not about the best team or being a whale

    Raids should be a team sport , so frankly how much you spent is irrelevant

    And ive spent over 1500 and i want a strong raid team not just more ego , exclusive chars are for that

    Although with pre craft for sale bet your **** ill buy callers but you greedy kids and your sense of self entitlement really are something awful in gaming community
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    Wicked Sith Queen with the Pink Saber
  • Palanthian
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    Flimsy wrote: »
    This is turning into a disregard-able thread, but here's a game you can play with your friends:

    1. Everyone puts $1 in the pot and gets 1 die.
    2. Everyone rolls. Highest roll wins all the money PLUS the winner gets 10 more dice.
    3. Everyone puts in another dollar (or however much you want since it doesn't matter) and rolls all of the dice they have. Highest total wins and the winner takes all again, plus another 10 dice to the winner because hey, why not.

    How long do you play that game?

    You nailed it. :smile:
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    Vampire_X wrote: »
    Exactly its timing not squads, heroic is not about the best tesm or being a whale

    Raids should be a team sport , so frankly jow much you spent is irrelevant

    And ive spent over 1500 and i want a strong raid team not just more ego , exclusive chars are for that

    Although with pre craft for sale bet your **** ill buy callers but you greedy kids and your sense of self entitlement really are something awful in gaming community

    There are a few guild out there that focus on teamwork over raid rewards and deal with the issues such as timing of attacks and such.
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  • Geddre
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    If I get one more %#!:"?/ useless furnace part I'm going to completely loose my $(%!#:.

    This random garbage sucks hard. You need to get us more raid currency and let us pick what we want as our reward. Finally placing high in my ultra competitive guild and waiting excitedly for my reward, only to be utterly and completely disappointed by more **** furnace parts that just build up and sit there taunting you with there uselessness... SUCKS.

    Your raid, the low damage required, the HORRIBLE reward system, and pretty much everything about it, sucks. Way to fail EA / CG.
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