Is 5* G9 Vader any good?

Salgado9

I was thinking about using him and I just wanna know if hes any good. He has cool factor but he has a bad basic and I'm just wondering if hes any good, I was thhinking about running Dooku lead QGJ Vader Fives RG. Or something like that. Just wanna know if he can put in work, like an escort

1AmYourFath3r

No. He's not good. He hits like Barriss, and it's hard to properly use culling blade in PvP. He also makes you an easy target.

But... He is decent in GW, simply because his health pool.

Salgado9

1AmYourFath3r wrote: »

No. He's not good.

*cries*

B00MSTICK

Prob not for Arena unless you want to change your team to match. Saw someone put him up with 88 and together the debuffs made culling blade a one-and-done.

Good for other modes.

He's more of a tank than an attacker. His basic is weak, but with omega has 80% chance to ability block. I worked him up just because he's one of the "Easy" G9 toons.

Backdragon

I think Vader is great. I have him at 5* / G9 (approaching 6*!) and he hits hard. I disagree with the notion that he has hits softly. He's not Rey, but in my experience he tears it up pretty good. I consider him a high hit point attacker.

Culling blade often does 10k damage or more with a critical hit, and it gives him 100% turn meter if it finishes the target (which it often does when it hits for 10k).

I use him especially in GW where he survives 10-12 nodes easily.

Caveat: I don't use him in Arena, but that's only because I know people will target my team more often if I do.

I can't wait to get him to 6* and see what he does. And when he eventually hits level 90 (or 100!), G11, 7*... probably the best toon in the game, I suspect. But obviously those don't exist...yet.

My guess, Vader = longest farm /strongest long-term toon

1AmYourFath3r

Backdragon wrote: »

I think Vader is great. I have him at 5* / G9 (approaching 6*!) and he hits hard. I disagree with the notion that he has hits softly. He's not Rey, but in my experience he tears it up pretty good. I consider him a high hit point attacker.

Culling blade often does 10k damage or more with a critical hit, and it gives him 100% turn meter if it finishes the target (which it often does when it hits for 10k).

I use him especially in GW where he survives 10-12 nodes easily.

Caveat: I don't use him in Arena, but that's only because I know people will target my team more often if I do.

I can't wait to get him to 6* and see what he does. And when he eventually hits level 90 (or 100!), G11, 7*... probably the best toon in the game, I suspect. But obviously those don't exist...yet.

My guess, Vader = longest farm /strongest long-term toon

Really? He only hits for 1.8k on his basic for me, and it's every 4 turns where he might have a chance to use force crush+culling blade. And with tenacity so high at upper levels, he rarely lands the three DoT's

Enarethpower

1AmYourFath3r wrote: »

No. He's not good. He hits like Barriss, and it's hard to properly use culling blade in PvP. He also makes you an easy target.

But... He is decent in GW, simply because his health pool.

Are you serious? He's in my Arena squad. I hang around top 100. Maybe not where you are! Plus he's fun and he's my endgame goal

Enarethpower

1AmYourFath3r wrote: »

Backdragon wrote: »

I think Vader is great. I have him at 5* / G9 (approaching 6*!) and he hits hard. I disagree with the notion that he has hits softly. He's not Rey, but in my experience he tears it up pretty good. I consider him a high hit point attacker.

Culling blade often does 10k damage or more with a critical hit, and it gives him 100% turn meter if it finishes the target (which it often does when it hits for 10k).

I use him especially in GW where he survives 10-12 nodes easily.

Caveat: I don't use him in Arena, but that's only because I know people will target my team more often if I do.

I can't wait to get him to 6* and see what he does. And when he eventually hits level 90 (or 100!), G11, 7*... probably the best toon in the game, I suspect. But obviously those don't exist...yet.

My guess, Vader = longest farm /strongest long-term toon

Really? He only hits for 1.8k on his basic for me, and it's every 4 turns where he might have a chance to use force crush+culling blade. And with tenacity so high at upper levels, he rarely lands the three DoT's

Did you omega all of his A&As?

Enarethpower

1AmYourFath3r wrote: »

Backdragon wrote: »

I think Vader is great. I have him at 5* / G9 (approaching 6*!) and he hits hard. I disagree with the notion that he has hits softly. He's not Rey, but in my experience he tears it up pretty good. I consider him a high hit point attacker.

Culling blade often does 10k damage or more with a critical hit, and it gives him 100% turn meter if it finishes the target (which it often does when it hits for 10k).

I use him especially in GW where he survives 10-12 nodes easily.

Caveat: I don't use him in Arena, but that's only because I know people will target my team more often if I do.

I can't wait to get him to 6* and see what he does. And when he eventually hits level 90 (or 100!), G11, 7*... probably the best toon in the game, I suspect. But obviously those don't exist...yet.

My guess, Vader = longest farm /strongest long-term toon

Really? He only hits for 1.8k on his basic for me, and it's every 4 turns where he might have a chance to use force crush+culling blade. And with tenacity so high at upper levels, he rarely lands the three DoT's

Plus: I believe it was you that got me into AA and Vader. Just got AA leveled up. Going to try out the combo

1AmYourFath3r

Enarethpower wrote: »

1AmYourFath3r wrote: »

No. He's not good. He hits like Barriss, and it's hard to properly use culling blade in PvP. He also makes you an easy target.

But... He is decent in GW, simply because his health pool.

Are you serious? He's in my Arena squad. I hang around top 100. Maybe not where you are! Plus he's fun and he's my endgame goal

He's in my arena right now. I switched him out with Stormtrooper earlier today, but more as a tank than attacker. I did manage to gain 96 spots with him today, in 7 battles, bit little credit goes to him - he was there as a tank.

I have all his abilities at 7.

But I do love him in GW. He makes it nearly to the end with protection left. He just can't compete at high levels in PvP. Maybe I'll throw him in as leader tomorrow and see if I feel any different.

1AmYourFath3r

Enarethpower wrote: »

1AmYourFath3r wrote: »

Backdragon wrote: »

I think Vader is great. I have him at 5* / G9 (approaching 6*!) and he hits hard. I disagree with the notion that he has hits softly. He's not Rey, but in my experience he tears it up pretty good. I consider him a high hit point attacker.

Culling blade often does 10k damage or more with a critical hit, and it gives him 100% turn meter if it finishes the target (which it often does when it hits for 10k).

I use him especially in GW where he survives 10-12 nodes easily.

Caveat: I don't use him in Arena, but that's only because I know people will target my team more often if I do.

I can't wait to get him to 6* and see what he does. And when he eventually hits level 90 (or 100!), G11, 7*... probably the best toon in the game, I suspect. But obviously those don't exist...yet.

My guess, Vader = longest farm /strongest long-term toon

Really? He only hits for 1.8k on his basic for me, and it's every 4 turns where he might have a chance to use force crush+culling blade. And with tenacity so high at upper levels, he rarely lands the three DoT's

Plus: I believe it was you that got me into AA and Vader. Just got AA leveled up. Going to try out the combo

AA + Vader would actually be nice, using force crush and culling blow in one turn.

Enarethpower

1AmYourFath3r wrote: »

Enarethpower wrote: »

1AmYourFath3r wrote: »

Backdragon wrote: »

I think Vader is great. I have him at 5* / G9 (approaching 6*!) and he hits hard. I disagree with the notion that he has hits softly. He's not Rey, but in my experience he tears it up pretty good. I consider him a high hit point attacker.

Culling blade often does 10k damage or more with a critical hit, and it gives him 100% turn meter if it finishes the target (which it often does when it hits for 10k).

I use him especially in GW where he survives 10-12 nodes easily.

Caveat: I don't use him in Arena, but that's only because I know people will target my team more often if I do.

I can't wait to get him to 6* and see what he does. And when he eventually hits level 90 (or 100!), G11, 7*... probably the best toon in the game, I suspect. But obviously those don't exist...yet.

My guess, Vader = longest farm /strongest long-term toon

Really? He only hits for 1.8k on his basic for me, and it's every 4 turns where he might have a chance to use force crush+culling blade. And with tenacity so high at upper levels, he rarely lands the three DoT's

Plus: I believe it was you that got me into AA and Vader. Just got AA leveled up. Going to try out the combo

AA + Vader would actually be nice, using force crush and culling blow in one turn.

And if the culling blade results in a kill, one MORE turn with his basic, for 3 consecutive turns!

Viperish

I have him 5* g10. With the right setup he can be useful for arena top 25. Top 10 is a lot less likely given that everyone is max * and gear Lvl.

The right setup that I'm referring to is an Admiral Ackbar leader who provides tactical genius. This allows u to use both the AOE as well as his culling blade in the same turn. The other 3 are up to you.

On the point about holding rank, you simply won't given a number of reasons. One of which being, who doesn't wanna fight a room they don't often see in arena?

Edit: it seems everyone communicated the Ackbar Vader combo around the same time lol

Salgado9

Enarethpower wrote: »

1AmYourFath3r wrote: »

Enarethpower wrote: »

1AmYourFath3r wrote: »

Backdragon wrote: »

I think Vader is great. I have him at 5* / G9 (approaching 6*!) and he hits hard. I disagree with the notion that he has hits softly. He's not Rey, but in my experience he tears it up pretty good. I consider him a high hit point attacker.

Culling blade often does 10k damage or more with a critical hit, and it gives him 100% turn meter if it finishes the target (which it often does when it hits for 10k).

I use him especially in GW where he survives 10-12 nodes easily.

Caveat: I don't use him in Arena, but that's only because I know people will target my team more often if I do.

I can't wait to get him to 6* and see what he does. And when he eventually hits level 90 (or 100!), G11, 7*... probably the best toon in the game, I suspect. But obviously those don't exist...yet.

My guess, Vader = longest farm /strongest long-term toon

Really? He only hits for 1.8k on his basic for me, and it's every 4 turns where he might have a chance to use force crush+culling blade. And with tenacity so high at upper levels, he rarely lands the three DoT's

Plus: I believe it was you that got me into AA and Vader. Just got AA leveled up. Going to try out the combo

AA + Vader would actually be nice, using force crush and culling blow in one turn.

And if the culling blade results in a kill, one MORE turn with his basic, for 3 consecutive turns!

And the cooldowns will go down, even faster

Erik_Aphax

What about Tactical Genius + Vader? Could be fun but surely useless on hands of the **** AI defense.

Cambo

I think making his Culling Blade an attack that cannot be evaded or countered would be a nice touch. Considering how tricky it can be to apply it to great effect it sure sucks when it's dodged and you wave to wait 4 rounds to try again. You're usually dead by then in the arena.

1AmYourFath3r

Cambo wrote: »

I think making his Culling Blade an attack that cannot be evaded or countered would be a nice touch. Considering how tricky it can be to apply it to great effect it sure sucks when it's dodged and you wave to wait 4 rounds to try again. You're usually dead by then in the arena.

That's what happened my last battle today. Had Rey (with lumi lead) lined up with 4-5 debuffs. Threw culling blade, and dodged. It went south for me very quickly after that.

Enarethpower

Viperish wrote: »

I have him 5* g10. With the right setup he can be useful for arena top 25. Top 10 is a lot less likely given that everyone is max * and gear Lvl.

The right setup that I'm referring to is an Admiral Ackbar leader who provides tactical genius. This allows u to use both the AOE as well as his culling blade in the same turn. The other 3 are up to you.

On the point about holding rank, you simply won't given a number of reasons. One of which being, who doesn't wanna fight a room they don't often see in arena?

Edit: it seems everyone communicated the Ackbar Vader combo around the same time lol

FYI ,AA doesn't need to be lead for his synergy with Vader.

M31Andro

Meh. Not yet. I have him at that level and I only use him in raids when my better characters are killed, in the hopes of getting a 30k hit with the culling blade. He does nowhere near the damage Rey does anywhere. I also only use him in GW if my A and B teams get killed (Which doesn't happen anymore since they nerfed GW). He needs 7* and G10 IMO.

Plague_Inc

Enarethpower wrote: »

1AmYourFath3r wrote: »

Enarethpower wrote: »

1AmYourFath3r wrote: »

Backdragon wrote: »

I think Vader is great. I have him at 5* / G9 (approaching 6*!) and he hits hard. I disagree with the notion that he has hits softly. He's not Rey, but in my experience he tears it up pretty good. I consider him a high hit point attacker.

Culling blade often does 10k damage or more with a critical hit, and it gives him 100% turn meter if it finishes the target (which it often does when it hits for 10k).

I use him especially in GW where he survives 10-12 nodes easily.

Caveat: I don't use him in Arena, but that's only because I know people will target my team more often if I do.

I can't wait to get him to 6* and see what he does. And when he eventually hits level 90 (or 100!), G11, 7*... probably the best toon in the game, I suspect. But obviously those don't exist...yet.

My guess, Vader = longest farm /strongest long-term toon

Really? He only hits for 1.8k on his basic for me, and it's every 4 turns where he might have a chance to use force crush+culling blade. And with tenacity so high at upper levels, he rarely lands the three DoT's

Plus: I believe it was you that got me into AA and Vader. Just got AA leveled up. Going to try out the combo

AA + Vader would actually be nice, using force crush and culling blow in one turn.

And if the culling blade results in a kill, one MORE turn with his basic, for 3 consecutive turns!

Dooku would be proud

MorbiusMD

I use Vader with IG88 in arena and it's a pretty awesome combo. With a bit of luck I can trash teams that look way better than mine. I will have to replace him at some point I suppose because I can't rank him up, but atm he is holding his own at 4 stars. His basic is weak but does ability block fairly often. Also, imo he is the best, most complex character in all the films.

Thor_Odinson1

Best part about my IG-88 Omega team with a side of Vader is that it makes Dooku look like a pansy. Just upgraded my Vader to G10 too. He crits for around 4k on his basic now and his culling blade is off the charts: just had a crit of 17k with only 2 or 3 debuffs. Perfect for one-shotting toons without activating an RG taunt.

Sikho

He's decent in the right setup. DOT AoE teams are where he shines.

88 (L) with an Omega on his Leader
Vader
Lando
HK 47/Dengar when he's out
JE for some nice speed for the droids, RG for a taunter, Phasma or Poggle for utility

aerendhil

Sikho wrote: »

He's decent in the right setup. DOT AoE teams are where he shines.

88 (L) with an Omega on his Leader
Vader
Lando
HK 47/Dengar when he's out
JE for some nice speed for the droids, RG for a taunter, Phasma or Poggle for utility

I'd rather do :

IG88
Vader
Lando
RG
Ackbar

Stuwart

So I maxed my 6 star Vader yesterday and played with him in Arena all day. Overall he hits decently, he's not incredibly slow, and his dots are nice.

However he's pretty useless against any team who can dispell the dots. So basically you just feed a Rex team a full round of TM

It is sad to me that with 5-6 negative effects culling blade is still weaker than Rey.

Sikho

aerendhil wrote: »

Sikho wrote: »

He's decent in the right setup. DOT AoE teams are where he shines.

88 (L) with an Omega on his Leader
Vader
Lando
HK 47/Dengar when he's out
JE for some nice speed for the droids, RG for a taunter, Phasma or Poggle for utility

I'd rather do :

IG88
Vader
Lando
RG
Ackbar

Ackbar can be nice, but is a liability in defense, due to the random nature of AoEs.