A counter to old ben, and it's not one of the new toons: Ackbar
So I just realized, since putting ackbar in, I do not lose to old ben teams on offense anymore, and this is because Old ben basically gives me a heal. Ackbar can dispel everything. My team: Ackbar (L), Leia, B2, RG, Rey
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A guy I am in contact with on my shard ran that exact team, he always dropped to 20's on a fairly balanced shard, tried swapping B2 for SF still no luck.
Huh. I have better luck on mine, and mine is filled with cookie cutter old ben teams
It's more likely people are realizing Ben really isn't that good. He is ignorable. His dodge bonus is good, better than dooku, but not really awfully game breaking.
Why I think you are winning is you are able to curve ahead with extra attacks. B2 and Leia.
May I also ask, what leads where you using before ackbar? Do you have gear levels of your toons vs your opponent?
I was using QGJ (L), B2, Rg, Gs, Rey. Gear of me is rey 10, rg 10, the rest 9. There are no teams below gear 9 on my shard. What stuck out to me was how the battle turned on ackbar dispelling the offense down, which lasts for 2 turns to the ability block's one. It healed rey and RG was able to get taunt up before she went down
I just found that out g10/11, it wasn't as difficult to survive the first barrage. Then gaining attacks from ackbar and phasma pull away from obi.
Hahaha
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Clearly you are stuck at g8
AA? Not so much. Kinda useless if his ability blocks you. It's only to funnel you into StHan while your offense is down and your dispel ( sans Sunfac) is off the board.
Agree with the fact that OB teans is maybe 5th in top scariest teams, at most. Dooku falls to 8-10.
This is true. It's just perception on the level of arena they are facing.
Dooku is super solid early cuz lumi is still viable. Ben is better than dooku but once you realize he offer very little to the battle and his dodge only affects the target and not the team, it's not that bad.
At g10/11, characters can take the damage and survive the initial barrage. It then comes down to attack advantage. Phasma is superior to Ben on offense. It's not even close.
I propose that an arena environment where participation utterly dwarfs that of gear 10/11 arenas is much more suitable and ultimately more relevant to the vast majority of this game's players. Oddly, the gear 8 arenas you dismiss are just such an environment. The current game cap is irrelevant to all but a small portion of us who take arena seriously.
Second issue is my disspell! i m using qgj qnd st han evades or resists like 3/5 times ... Theirs no that many disspeller that are viable for arena or until gear 10/11 for instance plo koon 50% potency untill gear 11 (+40%) ... Assaj 40% potency... No thanks and baris is jist too slow ussless no thanks theirs Only B2 and Sun fac and qgj and teebo (if he s gear 11)
Btw potency apploes negative status effect ! I m pretty sure it also works when removing positives status effeft right?
It's the luck of the draw. If you get targeted, you will drop places. Doesn't have anything to do with the team you use.
Meh Anakin still not viable in my opinion, maybe his numbers will change, but he's still not great and certainly not a meta changing toon.
B2 sorta made JE teams viable but anyone not using Rex will likely use Ben/Han/B2. Just a good team.
Not everyone have b2, today team instinct had droid team full gear hk 88 86 JE B2, I lost twice with Ben Yoda qgj rey StHan (this team destroy other old Ben teams because of Yoda foresight and destroy Akbar ones because of StHan takes Leia fire and Ben gives offence down) as soon as I swapped Yoda for RG I won vs droids in 2 minutes. I don't know, I believe every reasonable team can be up there... This is quite a good thing, everyone can aim to use different compositions and everyone will have to modify/adapt to climb... Better than when EVERYONE had the same team...
53 days as F2P and progressing through gear 9? I don't buy it, and would love to see your evidence.
Good morning. Congrats on working towards g9. So you are currently at g8 and working on g9. This is exactly what I called already. You may have some g9, but if your whole arena team isn't g9, you're still g8.
Dooku and Ben are super solid at that level of the arena. I didn't dismiss anything. You are though. I said at g10/g11 survival through the initial dampening of mind tricks is key. You then proceeded to tell me there isn't enough players at that level and it shouldn't be how I judge arena. That is dismissive. We should Examine the whole scene.
I am aware that within the arena there are thresholds where characters preform better and then see sudden decrease in performance. Let's look at Sid and lumi. Everyone uses them early. But then they fade off. Then it's good to use dooku. Then obi comes in and is a much better performer. Then gear gets maxed out and suddenly it becomes possible to survive Rey and Qgj. So, instead of giving me TM on a dodge, why not use a leader who provides me much more with in-match utility and grants many more turns with ally assists and team-wide TM.
Ben is a great leader. Top 5. But he isn't op.
*edit for spelling.
I agree w alot of what you said...so in your opinion who would be the best leader? Plasma?
Who else do you run on your team?
With phasma its kinda of rng based due to aoe speed down if it lands on my st han and rey i m done for it ...
Speed is key if they can make old ben mind trick unavoidable then ackbar +st han and old ben would be the team to beat old ben lead
what would balance the game is to make qgj disspell unavoidable cuz atm theirs almost no viable disspeller for FTP
The most spot on statement I've read about the new Anakin rework. Sure it's anti-evasion but advantage up mean absolutely nothing if the attack will just get dodged again. It's a step in the right direction but still a pretty wobbly step listing lazily to the left.
Only f2p dispel character is gqj?
What about teebo?
Mace?
Ventress?
Plo koon?