Attaining (Trying to) Kylo Ren is a JOKE!!!

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So I've been playing this game for a while now (Only since it's official release, as the BETA wasn't available to me), and it is quite a fun, addictive game.. But my god, there's so much "unfair" game-play involved, along with the "unconvincing" reward system. But my biggest gripes with this game, for one thing, is the way the 'Squad Arena Battles' are chosen. You don't stand a chance against 95% of the opponents team.. And don't give me that garbage about "levelling up your characters".
The 2nd thing is that when you SIM a battle, if there's a character shard in the rewards for that battle, you're not even guaranteed to get that character shard. Then, there's the limitation of only being able to do them 3 times a day. So you could be trying to get shards for Rey, for example.. And SIM (or even play) all 3 opportunities you have, to get her shards and you could end up going through the 3 allowed chances without a single shard. Now, THAT.. Is unacceptable.

To make it worse, with some characters you have to get 80 shards to unlock them. 50 shards is bad enough, but 80.. is just plain ludicrous! Attaining a top character should be no more than having to acquire 50 shards.

Which then brings me onto the Cantina Battles and the recently released "The Force Awakens" content (which I'll come to momentarily). Now, since I've been playing from the game's official release, I've only managed to get to the 2nd Tier/Page of Cantina Battles and only just started the 2nd Battle in that Tier (which I can't seem to get past, yet). The Cantina Battles are far too difficult for their current level. Jesus ****! If Tier 1 and Tier 2 are as hard as they currently are.. Then I'd hate to think what sort of difficulty the battles would be when attempting Tier 3 and Tier 4 battles.

Which, finally brings me onto the farming or attaining of The Force Awakens characters (Kylo Ren, in particular). Yes! I DO want that character, but as you can already tell.. I'm nowhere near attaining his shards, unless I pay out an absurd amount of money to EA, for crystals to buy Chromium Data Packs (Something which I REFUSE to do). Obviously, The Force Awakens did have a pack in the game, around the time of the movie, that was priced as £79.99 (UK) (That in itself was an absolute abomination of money spending). Who, in their right mind would shell out that amount of money on a mobile device app?! You'd have to be plain stupid or rolling in money to even consider doing that. Again, EA's greedy revenue and profit tactics are at large, here (clearly becoming a "Pay-to-Win" game).
Now, I log in every day and have done since the game's release and I complete all the Daily Activities and I've managed to acquire a total of 7/80 Kylo Ren shards. I'm Player Level 51, currently. How in the holy hell am I, or anyone else (particularly of a lower level than me) supposed to acquire Kylo Ren or Finn, without spending money on the game?! Maybe, if you could purchase the characters, outright, for a small fee (Yes, EA.. I mean a small fee). Something ranging from £2.99 to £3.99/£4.99 per character (depending on their rarity and star level), then that would maybe encourage NEW growth or playability into the game. If you're a player and you've been lucky (or stupid enough, should I say) to acquire Kylo Ren and the Force Awakens characters by either buying the TFA Pack, that's no longer available.. Then good for you and this probably doesn't apply to you. My point is, that acquiring characters, such as Kylo Ren, Finn. etc. should be made far easier and be made far more attainable. Because otherwise, this game becomes very much a cash-grab or VERY time-consuming, at the very least.

If anyone from EA reads this, I hope you will take my comments and my gripes with the game, on-board and hopefully do something to rectify this.. Although, I already know it will fall on deaf ears.

Thank you!

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  • Uh, you just spend your arena rewards on refreshing the cantina energy. And if you've been playing for longer than the majority of people (which you have), and can't get a decent ranking in arena, then you're just not playing the game right. Also, Cantina-farmable characters are literally the easiest to farm... is this post a joke lol?
  • Rolf
    1032 posts Member
    You know that Ren, and Finn for that matter, are both farmable in Cantina, right? It's a slow grind to be sure, but certainly doable.
    My ally code: 296-673-769. Wish we could have more than 35.
  • Cantina shard farms are actually not that bad. I got 5* kylo ren and 30 shards away from 6*. Also I couldn't start farming him the first day he was available I started couple days late.
    I'm not a completely f2p player, I occasionally spend money on crystals but not much really probably spent 40-50$ total up until now. Don't have any chromium only character and I can easily finish every battle.
    I think you really need to analyze what you are doing right and wrong.
  • I'm largely f2p, bought Dooku pack and shipments when they were available and I have a 6* Kylo and on 64/100 towards 7*. He is ridiculously easy to farm, all Cantina characters are.
  • The whole point of the game is to level up your characters so if you class it as garbage then you're playing it wrong.

    I find it's best to farm lum and sid as they are easy to get and really help in a team then you just have to pray to rng to get lucky.

    Although I normally find Kylo isn't that bad a drop I've managed to farm to 4*
  • Kylo was my fastest farm ever in cantina. His drop rate was sick! I was less than 3 weeks to 7* if I recall. He even is not too bad for equipment requirements to level 7, 20 laptops and 20 flashlights. (My names for the respective purple gear. :D )

    Keep hitting the cantina, good luck!
  • This is a whole new level of rant! I rate it a solid 5/7
    I suggest you go read some tips on the forum starting with the beginner guides. If you are playing since the hard launch and you have so little characters / shards you are doing something wrong. Also the cantina battles are the easiest battles you will have! You can borrow heroes and you can bring both lights side and dark side heroes.

    Basic tips:
    - Refresh cantina energy once a day, and regular energy twice a day
    - start working on some heroes and keep grinding them
    - Read the topics about galactic war (great source of shards)
    - try finishing arena in the top 200 (thought it might be hard since your behind the rest of your server)
  • Kyle was an easy farm. Too bad he's underwhelming.
  • Yuri
    173 posts Member
    You've been playing since launch and you are lvl 51?
    How is that even possible? I started a few days after launch and I've been 60 for over 2 weeks now...
    Before you say it, no I didn't spend a lot of money on the game, only bought one character pack which doesn't affect leveling.
  • Triqui
    2790 posts Member
    Kyle is s staple in many FTP Phasma teams because he's easy to farm.
    Rey on the other hand is quite harder
  • Varlie
    1286 posts Member
    @Triqui I agree, I don't think they have any programmed difference in drops but Rey has been difficult. It helps that Kylo is in cantina and not restricted to 3/day without gems.
  • I get about 66% on drop rates from rens cantina round here... Would be done if i had focused earlier
  • +1 for effort and some legit points (pricing is quite absurd €70 for toons where you can buy a new vid game doh)

    Being lvl 51 and not able to pass cantina lvl 2 = lvl 41 boss while playing each day.. well I can only say keep trying!
    439-259-888 I have a bad habit of editing my typo's after posting
  • Smite
    259 posts Member
    FACE IT: These kind of games are made to make money - not to give you a good time for free.

    The intension of th ggod people from EA is clear and straight forward: Pay und get rewarded!!

    Btw, Keylo or Rey are not even recommended in sucessful PVP teams. Actual it's a question of manipulating the turnmeter and not which char looks best or is in the latest movies :-)

    If you are able and willing to spend around $2.000 you will get what you want quickly. Or otherwise keep trying... but stop whining.
  • Game is more f2p than p2w.
  • Triqui
    2790 posts Member
    Varlie wrote: »
    @Triqui I agree, I don't think they have any programmed difference in drops but Rey has been difficult. It helps that Kylo is in cantina and not restricted to 3/day without gems.

    That was my point, yes. Cantina are easier to farm because there is no cap at 3 attempts
  • THIS post is a joke NOT farming Kylo Ren....

    I was lvl46 when kylo ren was available,couldn't farm his shards immediately too
    Now after about 1 month I've him unlocked.

    Btw I'm F2P except for a Dooku pack and some crystal packs.

    So what you expect to unlock your favorite character for FREE immediately??!
    You enjoy and claim to appreciate the game but won't spend.
    Come on...

  • ....I'm nowhere near attaining his shards, unless I pay out an absurd amount of money to EA, for crystals to buy Chromium Data Packs (Something which I REFUSE to do). Obviously, The Force Awakens did have a pack in the game, around the time of the movie, that was priced as £79.99 (UK) (That in itself was an absolute abomination of money spending). Who, in their right mind would shell out that amount of money on a mobile device app?! You'd have to be plain stupid or rolling in money to even consider doing that. Again, EA's greedy revenue and profit tactics are at large, here (clearly becoming a "Pay-to-Win" game).
    Now, I log in every day and have done since the game's release and I complete all the Daily Activities and I've managed to acquire a total of 7/80 Kylo Ren shards. I'm Player Level 51, currently. How in the holy hell am I, or anyone else (particularly of a lower level than me) supposed to acquire Kylo Ren or Finn, without spending money on the game?! Maybe, if you could purchase the characters, outright, for a small fee (Yes, EA.. I mean a small fee). Something ranging from £2.99 to £3.99/£4.99 per character (depending on their rarity and star level), then that would maybe encourage NEW growth or playability into the game. If you're a player and you've been lucky (or stupid enough, should I say) to acquire Kylo Ren and the Force Awakens characters by either buying the TFA Pack, that's no longer available.. Then good for you and this probably doesn't apply to you. My point is, that acquiring characters, such as Kylo Ren, Finn. etc. should be made far easier and be made far more attainable. Because otherwise, this game becomes very much a cash-grab or VERY time-consuming, at the very least.

    I too am in awe that anyone buys IAP in this game!!! I play this game daily on my Galaxy S6, which goes for around $600 retail. Anyway, to use your example, it could cost you more than my S6 to get Kylo to 7*....

    Your points are all extremely valid, people should not support this insane price structure, especially since they'll have nothing in the end when SWGOH ends. At least in Vegas or Atlantic City, you can drop $1000 in a casino and have a chance to win more money than you started with, and even worst case, the casino will comp you a free room for losing that big in one night out, where's your equivalent "comp" whales???
  • Kylo was easy as it gets for me. Not only because he's in Cantina, but because his shards fell like rain. You want to discuss a joke when it comes to shard drop rate, that would be Rey. After the free 10, I'm sitting at 30, and been farming her since day one of release.
  • I cant comprehend why people constantly believe they are entitled to something they have neither paid for nor have earned with a lot of work.

    This rant along with others just like it are evidence of a failed society. Either pay or put in the time, this game isnt an entitlement.
    Look, good against pvp is one thing, good against the living, that’s something else.
  • I just got kylo to 5*, it wasn't too difficult but it did take a few weeks as well as refreshes.

    Rey on the other hand, was extremely frustrating to farm, I've only just unlocked her. I didn't get any help from chromiums so I had to do it the hard way. But it was worth it, she hits like a truck.

    This game isn't pay-to-win, it's just pay-to get there a little bit faster.
  • Mobile games are completely different from console games. Almost everyone has a smart phone or tablet. Not everyone has a console. This means this game reaches a larger market and people without the time or willingness to buy a console. People are a lot more likely to spend on a game they can play anywhere.

    People spend insane amounts of money on mobile games. This is not just an EA thing. If people continue spending on this game, it wouldn't surprise me to see new content on a consistent basis. That's the only thing really separating it from other top mobile games. Granted it is a new game so there are a few bugs and new content will probably take a while.
  • I'm sorry OP but I have to say it: you're a NOOB, you have no idea how to play this game.
    I have started few days after release, spent about 50€ on this game (so no huge advantage) and I'm level 60 for about 2 weeks now. I have kylo ren, I'm always ranked between 10 and 20 in pvp, I finish GW everyday and have finished all pve (except 3 levels on 6 dark side hard mode).
    Even my friend who is completely FTP and started about a week after me is level 60 and doing fairly well in arena and other domains.
    So OP just L2P and stop QQing
  • J7000
    2059 posts Member
    BentWookie wrote: »
    Kylo was my fastest farm ever in cantina. His drop rate was sick! I was less than 3 weeks to 7* if I recall. He even is not too bad for equipment requirements to level 7, 20 laptops and 20 flashlights. (My names for the respective purple gear. :D )

    Keep hitting the cantina, good luck!

    Same for me. I actually switched to a no name toon who now seems to have 40 percent less drops than Kylo. ._.
  • I already for 7* Kylo Ren from grinding the cantina. It wasnt that hard at all
  • Abyss
    1651 posts Member
    edited January 2016
    ....I'm nowhere near attaining his shards, unless I pay out an absurd amount of money to EA. I play this game daily on my Galaxy S6, which goes for around $600 retail. Anyway, to use your example, it could cost you more than my S6 to get Kylo to 7*....

    I have kylo at 6* and 1/2 way to 7* 100% for free......... How in the world do u figure it would cost more then your $600 phone to get him to 7*???????
  • Which level of the Cantina Battles is Kylo Ren and Rey available? I finally just got to stage 2 mainly because I was farming Chewie's shards on stage 1.
  • cosmicturtle333
    5004 posts Member
    edited January 2016
    @DamianHoward

    You're definitely doing something wrong.

    Firstly, you aren't completing all of your Dailies if you're only level 51.

    Secondly Cantina 2B is level 37 enemies. What possible reason could there be that you aren't beating enemies 14 levels below you?

    If you've got some time could you take a screen shot of your characters so we can see if you've missed something.

    I'm not trying to insult you, I'm just trying to help you out :smile:
    Post edited by cosmicturtle333 on
    My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
  • Nikkalise wrote: »
    Which level of the Cantina Battles is Kylo Ren and Rey available? I finally just got to stage 2 mainly because I was farming Chewie's shards on stage 1.

    Kylo is 4C Cantina. Rey is in a couple hard missions

  • Nikkalise wrote: »
    Which level of the Cantina Battles is Kylo Ren and Rey available? I finally just got to stage 2 mainly because I was farming Chewie's shards on stage 1.

    Kylo is 4c in Cantina, Rey is 2A Hard Light and 5D Hard Dark.
    My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
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