Massive Mods Guide

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Grraauuggh
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edited August 2023
NOTE: THIS THREAD IS INTENDED FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. Please post comments only related to providing information about mods, and refrain from posting any opinions, strategies, or other commentary about mods in this thread. If you want to talk strat or complain or otherwise share opinions about mods, please put it in a different thread.

I'm really just compiling a lot of things that are probably already posted elsewhere, but I felt like there isn't really a single, comprehensive guide to mods on the forums yet. So, not that we need another mods guide, I figured I would at least take as much as I could find about mods and combine it all together into a single guide. I'm sure I'm probably leaving things out here, or that someone else already has a much better guide, but feel free to add to it in the comments or dispute anything I've written, and I'll try to come back and update occassionally as new info is made available.

Also, all of this is accurate as of the time I'm writing this post. As we already know, everything is subject to change, including the level cap, quality levels, stats, set bonuses, etc.

Enjoy!

>>Basics<<

All mods have the following attributes: Tier, Quality/Color, Level, Shape/Slot, Set-Bonus, Primary Stat, and Secondary Stat(s).

Mods come in Tiers 1-5, Quality A-E, Level 1-15.

All mods use the following methods to improve stats: Primary Stat, Secondary Stat(s), and Set Bonus. These improvements either come in the form of a flat increase or a % increase.

Note: I'm a bit confused about which primary stats can still have flat values. This is because other than speed, I never really see any flat values on mod primary stats anymore, even though the devs stated in their update that it was only Offense, Defense, Health, and Protection that had the flat values removed. If anyone knows of any additional primary stat flat values other than speed, please let me know and I will update this guide to include them.

>>Obtaining Mods<<

Mods unlock at player level 50 and can be assigned to any character level 50 or higher.

Currently, mods can be obtained by completing mod battles for Tier 1 & 2 mods, by completing mod challenges for Tier 3, 4, & 5 mods, and by purchasing them from the Mod Shop.

Mod Battles

Mod battles unlock at player level 50, have no character restrictions, and require cantina energy to complete. Sim tickets may be used after the battle has been completed at 3 stars, just like cantina battles. There are 8 stages, each corresponding to a particular set-bonus, and each stage contains 7 battles, one for each shape and a 7th battle that rewards a random shape. In addition to rewarding tier 1 and 2 mods, mod battles will also reward ability mats, training droids, sim tickets, credits, cantina currency, and XP.

Mod Challenge Battles

Mod challenge battles unlock when Stage 3 of Mod Battles is complete, and each set of challenge battles unlocks when a corresponding stage of Mod Battles has been completed. Each challenge requires a specific squad of characters, as follows:

Health Set-Bonus Mods – All characters allowed
Defense Set-Bonus Mods – Only Jedi Allowed
Critical Damage Set-Bonus Mods – Only Jawas Allowed
Critical Chance Set-Bonus Mods – Only Scoundrels Allowed
Tenacity Set-Bonus Mods – Only Rebels Allowed
Offense Set-Bonus Mods – Only First Order Allowed
Potency Set-Bonus Mods – Only Empire Allowed
Speed Set-Bonus Mods – Only Resistance Allowed

Mod challenge battles require at least 3 3-star characters for the tier-3 challenge battles, at least 4 4-star characters for the tier-4 challenge battles, and at least 5 5-star characters for the tier-5 challenge battles. In addition to rewarding tier 3, 4, and 5 mods, mod battles will also reward ability mats, training droids, sim tickets, credits, cantina currency, and XP. Mod Challenge Battles also require cantina energy to complete.

CG_NotReallyAJedi writes:

“The Energy-to-Currency ratio is as follows:
1- 2* Mods Battles: 10 Energy, 17 Cantina Currency
3* Mods Battles: 10 Energy, 17 Cantina Currency
4* Mods Battles: 12 Energy, 21 Cantina Currency
5* Mods Battles: 16 Energy, 28 Cantina Currency”

Mod Shop

You may also purchase mods in the Mod Shop for either credits or crystals. The Mod Shop unlocks when Mod Battles is unlocked at player level 50.

EA_Jesse writes:

“Prior to unlocking Mod Challenges only 1, 2 and 3 star Mods will be available in Mod Shipments.
Upon completion of ALL Tier 1 Mod Challenges 4 star Mods will start to appear in Mod Shipments.
Upon completion of ALL Tier 2 Mod Challenges 5 star Mods will start to appear in Mod shipments.”

It is rumored that mods may also be a reward provided by the upcoming AAT raid, and that Tier 6 and 7 mods will become available at that time. However, as of the time of this post, Tier 6 and 7 mods are currently unavailable.

Edit (10/23/2016): Mods are not available as a reward for the AAT Tank Takedown raid, and Tier 5 remains the highest tier mod you can obtain. No new updates/news as to when Tier 6 and/or 7 mods will become available, but I will update this guide if/when they become available.

>>Mod Stat Increases<<

Mods can improve the following stats: Health, Defense, Critical Damage, Critical Chance, Tenacity, Offense, Potency, Speed, Accuracy, Protection, and Critical Avoidance.

These stats are improvements based on a character's stats obtained through other progression prior to any mods, rather than after mods have been added. So, if your character has 100 speed prior to adding any mods, you add +10 speed with a primary stat, and then get a 5% speed-set bonus, the 2 bonuses are applied as (5% x 100) + 10 = 15 rather than [5% x (100 + 10)] + 10 = 15.5 (stats don't typically have decimals, but you get the idea).

Stats can be increased using set-bonuses, primary stats, and secondary stats.

>>Mod Shapes<<

All mods correspond with one of 6 pre-defined, unique slots: Square, Arrow, Diamond, Triangle, Circle, and Plus. Each mod will correspond with one of these slots, and can only be equipped in its corresponding slot.

Each shape can have any set bonus, and any secondary stat(s). However, specific shapes will correspond with specific primary stats. These are as follows:

Square - Offense (%)
Arrow - Speed (flat), Accuracy (%), Offense (%), Defense (%), Health (%), Protection (%), Critical Avoidance (%)
Diamond - Defense (%)
Triangle - Critical Chance (%), Critical Damage (%), Offense (%), Defense (%), Health (%), Protection (%)
Circle - Health (%), Protection (%)
Plus - Potency (%), Tenacity (%), Offense (%), Defense (%), Health (%), Protection (%)

Here's another view of the same data that you might find helpful:

Offense (%) - Square, Arrow, Triangle, Plus
Speed (flat) – Arrow
Accuracy (%) - Arrow
Defense (%) - Arrow, Diamond, Triangle, Plus
Health (%) - Arrow, Triangle, Circle, Plus
Protection (%) - Arrow, Triangle, Circle, Plus
Critical Avoidance (%) - Arrow
Critical Chance (%) - Triangle
Critical Damage (%) - Triangle
Potency (%) - Plus
Tenacity (%) - Plus

>>Upgrading Mods<<

Tier 1 mods have the lowest starting and max stats, whereas Tier 5 mods have the highest starting and max stats. However, Tier 1 mods have the lowest cost to increase level, whereas Tier 5 mods have the highest cost to increase level. Tier 1 is also cheapest to swap between characters, whereas Tier 5 is the most expensive. However, Tier 5 mods will sell for the highest value (since they are the most valuable), but you won't get many credits back from a Tier 1 mod.

This means that lower-tier mods will upgrade quicker and much more cheaply, but higher-tier mods have a greater upside and will ultimately be more valuable in the long-run.

Mk 1-A mod means tier 1, quality A. Mk 5-C means tier 5, quality C. Etc.

Here are the costs to upgrade or remove mods (thanks to @IdobaFett):

Tier 1
Upgrade: 375 (3,750 x 10)
Remove: 550

Tier 2
Upgrade: 750 (7,500 x 10)
Remove: 1,050

Tier 3
Upgrade: 1,250 (12,500 x 10)
Remove: 1,900

Tier 4
Upgrade: 1,750 (17,500 x 10)
Remove: 3,000

Tier 5
Upgrade: 2,250 (22,500 x 10)
Remove: 4,750

Here are the total costs to upgrade mods from level 1-15 (thanks to @scuba):

Tier 1: 28,875 credits
Tier 2: 57,750 credits
Tier 3: 152,500 credits
Tier 4: 250,250 credits
Tier 5: 474,750 credits

>>Mod Tiers<<

All mods come in Tiers 1-5. A mod's tier (number of "dots") is permanently set from the beginning, and cannot be changed (unless the devs change it, of course).

Higher-tier mods have higher starting and ending values for each stat. So, for example, a Tier 1 mod will max-out at 17 speed as the primary stat, whereas a Tier 5 mod will max-out at 30 speed for the primary stat.

Tiers typically determine that the mod has a higher starting or ending value for the primary and secondary stats, whereas the mod quality/color determines the number of secondary stats the mod has, and how many times it gets upgraded.

>>Mod Quality/Color<<

All mods come in quality A-E, which corresponds with the following colors:

A - Gold, B - Purple, C - Blue, D - Green, E - Grey

Mod quality can start at anywhere from quality A-E at level 1, but as the mod's level increases, the quality improves.

Therefore, ALL MODS will eventually reach quality A (Gold) once upgraded to level 15. The difference is, mods that start with quality A at level 1 will typically have higher "final" secondary stats (due to existing stats increasing as the mod levels increase), whereas mods that start at quality E will typically have lower "final" secondary stats since instead of upgrading the stats on existing secondary stats, the quality increase will simply add a new stat.

This can all be very confusing, but in other words, starting at a higher quality is sort of like having "more" increases applied to each stat on the mod, whereas having a higher tier is sort of like having "larger" increases applied to each stat on the mod. See Mod Levels below for further details.

Most quality A (Gold) mods have 4 secondary stats, but higher-tier versions usually end up with higher stats.

>>Mod Levels<<

EA_Jesse writes:

“Mods can reach up to level 15
Each level up increases the primary stat on the Mod
At levels 3, 6, 9, and 12, a secondary stat will be added or an existing secondary stat will be increased
Mods are upgraded by spending credits to increase the XP of the Mod.
It is possible to receive a large XP boost immediately upgrading the Mod's level.”

Note that secondary stats are only added or upgraded at levels 3,6,9, and 12. This means that the rest of the time, only the primary stat will be upgraded when a new mod-level is achieved.

>>Mod Set-Bonuses<<

Each mod corresponds with a specific, pre-defined set-bonus that cannot be changed (unless the devs change it, of course). Set-bonuses are earned when a character has equipped a certain number of mods (either 2 or 4 mods) that all have the same set-bonus. A Max set-Bonus can also be earned when that same group of mods (again, either 2 or 4 mods) have all been upgraded to level 15. Max set-bonuses replace the basic set-bonuses once applied.

Set-bonuses and Max set-bonuses are as follows:

Equip 2 Health Mods: +2.5% Health
Equip 2 L15 Health Mods: +5% Health
Equip 2 Defense Mods: +2.5% Defense
Equip 2 L15 Defense Mods: +5% Defense
Equip 4 Critical Damage Mods: +15% Critical Damage
Equip 4 L15 Critical Damage Mods: +30% Critical Damage
Equip 2 Critical Chance Mods: +2.5% Critical Chance
Equip 2 L15 Critical Chance Mods: +5% Critical Chance
Equip 2 Tenacity Mods: +5% Tenacity
Equip 2 L15 Tenacity Mods: +10% Tenacity
Equip 4 Offense Mods: +5% Offense
Equip 4 L15 Offense Mods: +10% Offense
Equip 2 Potency Mods: +5% Potency
Equip 2 L15 Potency Mods: +10% Potency
Equip 4 Speed Mods: +5% Speed
Equip 4 L15 Speed Mods: +10% Speed

>>Managing Mods<<

Mods can be equipped, upgraded, removed, sold, or destroyed. Upgrading and removing costs credits. Selling a mod will return credits to the user, and equipping or destroying a mod will neither cost nor return credits. The higher the mod's tier, the more credits it costs or returns. If a mod has already been equipped, it must be unequipped first before it can be sold.

Mods can be locked/unlocked to prevent them from being removed or sold until you're ready to do so.

Up to 500 mods can be stored in the Mod Inventory before the UI will force you to sell or destroy mods to make room for new mods.

You can search for mods using various filters and search criteria in the inventory screen to make finding the mods you're looking for easier.

>>Mod Achievements<<

There are tier 1, 2, and 3 achievements for mod challenges for each set-bonus type.

Tier 1 Challenge Completion: 10k credits, 10 crystals, 30 ally points
Tier 2 Challenge Completion: 20k credits, 20 crystals, 60 ally points
Tier 3 Challenge Completion: 40k credits, 40 crystals, 120 ally points

If anyone has the data on what all of the achievement rewards are for equipping mods, I would be happy to add it to this guide.


I hope you've enjoyed this guide, and are (hopefully) a little less-confused by mods now; I know I was completely overwhelmed by mods when they first got implemented. Again, let me know in the comments below if you have any additions or changes you would like to see and I would be happy to edit to incorporate them, assuming that someone has validated that your information is correct. ;^]
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  • scuba
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    edited August 2016
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    Speed is the only interger value, (non-percentage) for primary.
    Base Stats for accuracy, crit chance, crit damage, crit avoidance, potency, and tenacity are all in percentage so the mods are also in percentages.

    Your Teir info. Is a little off.
    T1-T5 can all have 4 secondary stats. Almost every mod at grade a (level 12) will have 4 secondary stats. Every once and a while one of the added stats actually matches a stat already present so that stat just goes up and level 12 or higher mod may show less than 4 secondary stats. Ex 2 secondary stats of +3 speed and +2 speed will end with a secondary stat of +5 speed.

    Mod grades.
    All mods reach grade A/gold at level 12. This is the point when ago secondary stats are shown and have reached final value. Leveling from 12-15 only improves primary Stat.

    Stating Mod grade/color only means more or less secondary is know before leveling. As you level some of the shown secondaries will upgrade or you will get new ones. Max of 4 secondaries. I have seen starting grade E end with higher secondaries than starting grade A.
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  • Grraauuggh
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    edited August 2016
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    scuba wrote: »
    Speed is the only other flat value for primary.
    Base Stats for accuracy, crit chance, crit damage, crit avoidance, potency, and tenacity are all in percentage so the mods are also in percentages.

    Your Teir info. Is a little off.
    T1-T5 can all have 4 secondary stats. Almost every mod at grade a (level 12) will have 4 secondary stats. Every once and a while one of the added stats actually matches a stat already present so that stat just goes up and level 12 or higher mod may show less than 4 secondary stats. Ex 2 secondary stats of +3 speed and +2 speed will end with a secondary stat of +5 speed.

    Mod grades.
    All mods reach grade A/gold at level 12. This is the point when ago secondary stats are shown and have reached final value. Leveling from 12-15 only improves primary Stat.

    Stating Mod grade/color only means more or less secondary is know before leveling. As you level some of the shown secondaries will upgrade or you will get new ones. Max of 4 secondaries. I have seen starting grade E end with higher secondaries than starting grade A.

    To the tier info comment, I reworked what I wrote about the Tiers and Quality aspects of the mods. I think I just didn't quite have things fleshed out the way I wanted to say them. Thanks for pointing that out.

    To the comment about leveling from 12-15 only improves primary stat, are you 100% sure? Not that I don't trust you, but given the relative unreliability of folks on the forums, I'd like to have confirmation from at least a couple other sources about this before I make a change. However, assuming that you're right and at least 2 other people make comments validating what you said, I'll make the update, and of course thank you for the feedback.

    To the starting (or even just ending) values for the secondary stats, as long as people can grasp the concept that mods which start off at higher quality usually end up with better stats because there are "more" increases, I'm probably good with what I wrote.

    Again, thanks for the feedback! It is always welcome, and let me know if you think of any other changes.
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  • scuba
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    From what you posted about mod leveling.

    Mod Levels

    EA_Jesse writes:

    “Mods can reach up to level 15
    Each level up increases the primary stat on the Mod
    At levels 3, 6, 9, and 12, a secondary stat will be added or an existing secondary stat will be increased
    Mods are upgraded by spending credits to increase the XP of the Mod.
    It is possible to receive a large XP boost immediately upgrading the Mod's level.”

    So after reaching level 12 secondary stats are done. They only change or add at level 3,6,9, and 12.

    Definitely some good info but definitely needs some corrections.
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    Thanks Grraauuggh. Something to add to your guide, costs to upgrade and costs to remove mods.
    Tier Cost to upgrade Cost to Remove
    1 375 550
    2 750 1050
    3 1250 1900
    4 1750 3000
    5 2250 4750
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    @IDobaFett Updated! Thanks for the good info.
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    @scuba Okay, I see what you're saying now. I went ahead and added a blurb about the secondary stats only being upgraded at levels 3,6,9, and 12. Thanks for the info!
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    scuba wrote: »
    Speed is the only other flat value for primary.
    Base Stats for accuracy, crit chance, crit damage, crit avoidance, potency, and tenacity are all in percentage so the mods are also in percentages.

    Thats not true. I have mods with tenecity as primary stat
  • scuba
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    edited August 2016
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    scuba wrote: »
    Speed is the only other flat value for primary.
    Base Stats for accuracy, crit chance, crit damage, crit avoidance, potency, and tenacity are all in percentage so the mods are also in percentages.

    Thats not true. I have mods with tenecity as primary stat

    Never said Tenacity is not a primary stat. I said tenacity is listed only as a percentage. Speed is the only primary stat not listed as a percentage, thus flat value. I did edit to make a little less confusing
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    @Grraauuggh When I have time, I'll try level up each Tier of mods and see what the total cost is to level them from 1 to 15. I've seen estimates around, but would be good to have an idea of the total cost to max level each Tier. Or maybe someone already has those numbers, please post if you do.
  • scuba
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    IDobaFett wrote: »
    @Grraauuggh When I have time, I'll try level up each Tier of mods and see what the total cost is to level them from 1 to 15. I've seen estimates around, but would be good to have an idea of the total cost to max level each Tier. Or maybe someone already has those numbers, please post if you do.

    This is what I have gotten from other sources on the forums

    Cost to level Mods from level 1-15
    1 Dot 28,875
    2 Dot 57,750
    3 Dot 152,500
    4 Dot 250,250
    5 Dot 474,750
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    thought that guide section is the most lifeless place in the forum...well done op
    as for feed back, i think too much word in single post how about to separate it(like making comment) and how about if common knowledge mod turned into f.a.q way...more simpler imo
    the cake is a lie
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    @IDobaFett , @scuba
    Great idea, wondering where that info came from scuba? Just a little hesitant to update anything until I feel like it's solid.

    @Casual_Player I totally hear what you're saying about this guide, it's a ton of info to take in all at once. I actually considered doing what you suggested, making separate comments or even just multiple threads about each topic (such as a thread for quality, a thread for tiers, etc.).

    However, one of my main goals in writing this guide was to consolidate all of the info that's out there into a single location, and breaking things up like that seemed like it would defeat the purpose.

    I would prefer something simpler, but a couple of things are working to prevent that: Time, since I just don't have a ton of time to make things any fancier/easier to look at than they already are, and complexity, since the subject itself is very complex and confusing to begin with. Believe me, this is not a simple subject, and again, given my goal of combining everything into one place, I felt it would be better to err on the side of providing too much information rather than leaving stuff out.

    In actuality, I think the thing that's really missing here is the strategy for how people should use mods, which I deliberately didn't want to include in this thread since I felt like things could get out-of-hand pretty quickly, and it's also somewhat subjective anyways. Still, I would love to see someone write their own guide on which mods are best for specific builds/characters, which mods should be farmed first, which mods are better than others, etc. There really is a lot of room for additional discussion about mods, and hopefully consolidating all the basics into a single location will serve as a good first-step towards enabling people to truly start figuring out what works best.
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    @scuba Updated! Thanks for the info.
  • BnBTobacconist
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    edited August 2016
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    I apologize if this was already mentioned, this is a very large and informative guide.

    There are some rules to the secondary stat increases while leveling mods.

    Green mods, the first level secondary stat increase (level 4) is added on to the first secondary stat.
    In Blue ones, the first two secondary stat increases (albeit smaller increases) are added to the 2nd secondary stat (first one is ignored).
    In Purple mods, the first two increases go to the first secondary stat.

    I think there is always "a chance" to get a random increase on an already existing mod as a bonus.
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    Great guide!
  • IDobaFett
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    edited August 2016
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    Dubbed the Kraken curve for mods:
    http://imgur.com/xpxfCDI

    $ Cost is in USD and based on the $ to Crystal conversion contained in the $99.99/15,710 package.

    Note that the $ cost is fairly linear within each Tier or Dot, but each successive Dot the line gets steeper. There is a slight jump from 1 Dot to 2 Dot as well.
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    Thanks for all the info folks, keep it coming!
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    Awesome thread Grraauuggh, the most organized and informing one I've seen on mods.

    Does anyone know if the placement of mods for the set bonus has any effect on the outcome? Like grouping the top four slots for a set bonus vs just placing them randomly... Or are there any key slots to maximize the use of a mod or set bonus?
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    Thanks much needed info
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    @Marxspawn

    The location where you place the mod doesn't have any effect whatsoever on the set-bonus that you get for using that type of mod. As long as you have either 2 or 4 mods that confer a specific set-bonus, you get the bonus.

    With that said, the slot you use for your primary stat is actually impactful, since you can only get certain primary stats in specific mod slots. For example, the arrow mod slot is currently the only one that offers speed as a primary stat, whereas 4 different mod slots offer health as a primary stat. So, you may decide that you want to prioritize a certain primary stat for a specific mod slot based on what stats are available for that slot.

    Thanks again to everyone for the props!
  • Ubo
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    Thank you very much for this giude !
    Really helpfull.
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    @Grraauuggh

    Thanks, that helps a lot. I'm starting to get a better feel for the mods. I'm still new to this type of gameplay and the mod factor threw me through a loop. I was completely lost and absolutely positive I would would waste credits and energy building the wrong mods. But I worked my way through it with the help of the forums. Just want to thank you again for helping out confused souls like myself

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    So for set bonuses, if all 6 of my mods are health, does that mean I have a 15% health boost?
    #CloneHelmets4Life...VICTORY!!!! :smiley: "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." The more you tighten your grip, CG/EA, the more whales will slip through your fingers (and go F2P or quit).
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    Yes, if they are all max level 15 mods. 3x5%
    Or it would be 7.5% health if not level 15 mods. 3x2.5%
    Or anywhere in between:
    1. 0 sets at level 15 = 7.5%
    2. 1 set at level 15 = 10.0%
    3. 2 sets at level 15 = 12.5%
    4. 3 sets at level 15 = 15.0%
  • Grraauuggh
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    edited August 2016
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    ^What he said

    Also, thanks for all the props, folks! Love hearing people tell me they like my guide, as confusing as mods were for me at the beginning, I know writing this guide helped me figure things out a lot, and hopefully it will do the same for you.
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    Would you be able to look up which value each fully upgraded mod applies? If I pull a 1*,2*, 3*,4*, or 5* arrow with crit avoidance, how much will that give me when I max them out per star?
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    If it's not a 5*, I wouldn't bother maxing it out.
    #CloneHelmets4Life...VICTORY!!!! :smiley: "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." The more you tighten your grip, CG/EA, the more whales will slip through your fingers (and go F2P or quit).
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    Is there a way to calculate the primary stat increase? For example, if a mod's primary is 2% at level 1, what does that become if it gets maxed?
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