EP Can Stun Rey with Foresight?

djlott

Ha ha ha lol YES finally! What a big Truck You to Rey! Now I only say that cause I don't have her but seriously, that ain't right. As much as I will exploit this, shouldn't this be impossible?

EDIT: I wrote shock in my OP title originally but I meant Stun.

leef

Sun fac also applies debuffs through forsight. So maybe it is actually working as intended. i dunno

RU486

There are plenty of characters that do damage through foresight.

djlott

@RU486 yes I'm aware but is this right? Seems like foresight is supposed to be a freebie so how would anyone know which attacks get evaded by foresight and which ones don't?

RU486

djlott wrote: »

@RU486 yes I'm aware but is this right? Seems like foresight is supposed to be a freebie so how would anyone know which attacks get evaded by foresight and which ones don't?

No I agree and foresight should be able to take no damage from ANYONE no matter who it is.

Aero

Video evidence at 24 seconds
https://youtu.be/XfDnrpZW-gg

five2zero

Why not, first part is damage to all, that remove foresights, second part stun to all

Asic

leef wrote: »

Sun fac also applies debuffs through forsight. So maybe it is actually working as intended. i dunno

Sunfac seems different

He counter and attacks and also applies debuff. The attack itself doesn't cause the debuff. Not sure if this is working as intended or broke.

JediMindTricks

Foresight: Evades the next attack (if able).

That's what the foresight buff says.

Bulldog1205

five2zero wrote: »

Why not, first part is damage to all, that remove foresights, second part stun to all

Not saying whether it's right or not, but there are plenty of attack/debuffs that don't do this.

MarmotaMonax

I am pretty sure that my RG and Daka never applied stun through foresight.

vynn

five2zero wrote: »

Why not, first part is damage to all, that remove foresights, second part stun to all

Exactly this. You can see that she doesn't take any damage in the video, so she did evade that part of the attack.

Tav1n_Yo

I'm fairly sure it counts as an attack, then the stun chance is initiated. So, the attack takes away foresight with no damage, then tries to apply debuff. This is how I understand it, if anyone else thinks otherwise, please add thwir input.

Ultra

RU486 wrote: »

djlott wrote: »

@RU486 yes I'm aware but is this right? Seems like foresight is supposed to be a freebie so how would anyone know which attacks get evaded by foresight and which ones don't?

No I agree and foresight should be able to take no damage from ANYONE no matter who it is.

Unevadable attacks can bypass foresight and that's intended IMO

Aero

Foresight would actually be a lot more balanced if it only guaranteed a dodge to the damage but not any effects.

vynn

one could argue that the skill should require that the damage land in order for the stun to be possible

RU486

Ultra wrote: »

RU486 wrote: »

djlott wrote: »

@RU486 yes I'm aware but is this right? Seems like foresight is supposed to be a freebie so how would anyone know which attacks get evaded by foresight and which ones don't?

No I agree and foresight should be able to take no damage from ANYONE no matter who it is.

Unevadable attacks can bypass foresight and that's intended IMO

That I also agree with, maybe I should have said that in the foresight description needs changed, evades 100% on one attack, obviously its not 100%.

Neo2551

On this case I want QGJ basic to also apply when the opponent toon evade...

djlott

The attack (named "Power of the Dark Side") doesn't state anything about being unavoidable. I wouldn't have even started a thread if it said that. The attack simply reads "Deal special damage to all enemies with a 70% chance to stun". That reads as a single attack and in my opinion, should NOT effectively ignore foresight. I'm glad it does because Rey and her Foresight can go to H. But it should not stun through it for consistency sake. Otherwise there are a 100 other character attacks that need to be retuned for this benefit.