Ahsoka Tano: Pro's and Con's

SolariJedi

This feisty, Jar'kai specialist has turned into one of my favorites. Her ability to heal herself every turn, and an occasional group heal, although minor, is what makes her, in my opinion, a necessity to have on any Jedi team. Add in the fact, that if the enemy has less than 50% health she does 1.5x the damage, she can turn the tide in any battle.

Her down side... her biggest draw back, besides middle of the road stats, is that her daring padawan trait can only be replenished on a finishing blow... ughh. I think this needs to be changed. Especially, because, in the raid, if she gets three critical from the rancor, she becomes very inept at survival, one thing that does not vibe at the same frequency with her character within the Star Wars Universe. Personally, I feel it would be more tactical to have her starting buffs over her head, and as she receives crits, they are removed and when her own attacks crit she gains them back. The trait can be acceptable when it comes to short battles with multiple enemies, (GW, ARENA, etc) but in drawn out battles, AKA Rancor, she cannot gain the traits back.


Love to here who agrees and disagrees, and other thoughts.

unit900000

Only thing I can say is put crit avoidance mods on her.

Darthpippa

if she finishes off the door would that class as a replenish ?

DefinitelyStarlord

I wish they would just add her passive stat buffs to her base stats. Give her a whole new passive to make her a more viable threat.

SolariJedi

unit900000 wrote: »

Only thing I can say is put crit avoidance mods on her.

I have considered that however the only mod that gives Crit Avoidance, is also the only one that gives Speed as a base, which is currently sitting at a +31 on her. That and all the Avoidance mods I have are 1•

SolariJedi

Darthpippa wrote: »

if she finishes off the door would that class as a replenish ?

I believe it does, but what happens when there is no longer a door... That's why I feel, and I concur with Starlord on this, that her passive needs to be changed. Whether an alteration or a replacement, it's current state has many flaws to it, mechanically.

ShaolinPunk

There are several heroes whose abilities only proc on a finishing blow.

I use her at lvl78 with g8, and she can help clear GW up too just about the end. Soooooo, don't buff her TOO much IMO, or she'll be the new JKA.

JediGhost117

Also, they don't put her starting buffs above her head in order to not give QGJ a buff to strip from the start. It would make her a liability. While I agree it should display what buffs she has had taken away, putting them above her head like normal buffs would just ruin her as a viable arena toon.

SolariJedi

JediGhost117 wrote: »

Also, they don't put her starting buffs above her head in order to not give QGJ a buff to strip from the start. It would make her a liability. While I agree it should display what buffs she has had taken away, putting them above her head like normal buffs would just ruin her as a viable arena toon.

Good point, I hadn't given that aspect thought. I wonder how they could display her attribute loss then....

Gaidal_Cain

If she loses her "superior stats" in a round in GW, it carries through until she gets a finishing blow, which is annoying.

If she could benefit from Ventress' speed buff leader ability, I would probably still use her in arena or GW, but alas she does not.

I like using an accuracy mod on her as she seems to miss all the time without it.

JediGhost117

SolariJedi wrote: »

JediGhost117 wrote: »

Also, they don't put her starting buffs above her head in order to not give QGJ a buff to strip from the start. It would make her a liability. While I agree it should display what buffs she has had taken away, putting them above her head like normal buffs would just ruin her as a viable arena toon.

Good point, I hadn't given that aspect thought. I wonder how they could display her attribute loss then....

Possibly over her abilities on the attacking players screen.

SmokeyJoe320

She was helpful for getting Yoda but I haven't used her much since. She's too slow and squishy, even with mods (although I do not have great mods in her). Her offense is decent but her health is weak. As other toons gear up, they blow by her. I do occasionally use her as a leader for a NS squad tho since she gives evasion up and TM on an evade. But other than that, there are several jedis I'd rather have in my jedi squad at this point.

Wundalicious

Her biggest downfall is her AI using her special first. Often, your team doesn't need the heal early and there isn't an enemy below 50%. She should use it Iike Savages special for targets at less than half health or like a healer when a teammate falls below 50%. Her self heal is awesome in gw and raid though.

Perhaps change her passive so abilities are gained on crits not finishing blows?

JacenRoe

She's just OK. The buffs she starts with, are good, but it's way to easy for her to suffer crits, and become worthless again like she used to be. She's not good enough to be meta even with those buffs. Not sure why they have to disappear at all. Maybe leave her as is, except when she's in a team with Anakin. She doesn't lose the bonuses as long as he's alive, and he gets 25% extra damage on his righteous fury when she gets hurt/killed. That and give her Maul's AI and she MIGHT actually be occasionally seen in arena.

MaulResurected

she's easy to gear especially past gear 8 once you give her 1furnace. She needs another tweak her leader ability should affect clones and jedi.

EscapeArtist51

Ahsoka is so bad right now it's crazy. Her kit is outdated, and meant for a game without mods. If you choose to use her you must build around her weaknesses. Meaning your upper right arrow should definitely be a crit avoidance mod. Make Anakin your team leader so her damage isn't poor. Fill her up with crit damage/crit chance. She really needs a buff, I dunno why CG doesn't buff toons very often.. Like the least you can do is give her +10 pct damage on her special or basic. Or more speed.

Synfreak

Pro: yea right she's newb not pro
Con: She's not Anakin

RedXVIISpence

Ive had some sort of sucess with her maxed, and a ton of speed on her.. Paired with JKA lead she becomes a beast(sorta) if you can heal toons that fall below 50% hp to proc ani. All while mine crits for 20-35k on special, depending if thy have less than 50% or not. Basic hits for 12-14k

Aero

I was thinking a partner synergy like Wiggs.

If Anakin is present, she can't lose her uniques.

RedXVIISpence

Aero wrote: »

I was thinking a partner synergy like Wiggs.

If Anakin is present, she can't lose her uniques.

Would have to be better than that.. Mine doesnt lose hers much at all, and if she does, the way her speed is, i can get a finishing blow pretty fast.
they need to just add another ability to her, and make gear 11 available.

DefinitelyStarlord

Aero wrote: »

I was thinking a partner synergy like Wiggs.

If Anakin is present, she can't lose her uniques.

If Anakin is present, she can't lose her unique buffs.

If Rex/Fives are present, they assist on her attacks with a +25% crit chance or something like that.

Gank_Killer

ooooooohhhhh, you mean AHSOKA. I got confused when I read Ashoka, I's like, dafuz is that? Funny how spelling totally changes the word.

MaulResurected

her and ventress need way more speed

SolariJedi

Gank_Killer wrote: »

ooooooohhhhh, you mean AHSOKA. I got confused when I read Ashoka, I's like, dafuz is that? Funny how spelling totally changes the word.

Haha thanks, Gank! I'm usually pretty good at spell check, but didn't even think to double check the title.

RedXVIISpence

SmokeyJoe320 wrote: »

She was helpful for getting Yoda but I haven't used her much since. She's too slow and squishy, even with mods (although I do not have great mods in her). Her offense is decent but her health is weak. As other toons gear up, they blow by her. I do occasionally use her as a leader for a NS squad tho since she gives evasion up and TM on an evade. But other than that, there are several jedis I'd rather have in my jedi squad at this point.

I dont think ger health is bad, given she has +45% with her buff..thats like 20k health on mine. And doesnt lose her buff much. Basically if she has lost her health buff shes almost dead anyways

Also with enough health mods ,her heal is significant, especially under ani lead. Procing ani over and over of she falls below 50% and heals herself back to green.

Super_Dealer

Isn't the fix as simple as buffing her natural critical avoidance? She seems fine as long as her buffs aren't taken away.

It would fit her character flavor in being an agile character b/c she's able to dodge critical hits. This fix would help her mitigate how easy it is for her buffs to be stripped away, thus decreasing her effectiveness. Make her crit avoid high enough that fully modded attackers with buffs to their crit chance could have about a %50 of the critical strike. You would need to make her crit avoid high enough so that AOE characters like Lando can't just crit everybody and make her useless again while destroying the rest of the team.

This change would make her more viable, but still vulnerable to fully modded attackers with critical up abilities like IG-86 or Leia.

Old_Scott

I have JKA maxed out and Ahsoka at gear 8, level 7 abilities. I have the gear to take her to 10. Would she be arena viable under Anakin? I have a critical avoidance mod on her already. It just seems a gamble to use a furnace on her, so I haven't yet.

Theoretically, she could work, but not all theories pan out.

Broxxor

She was badass when the game first came out. Game evolved, for some reason she didn't