Twice now I've tried running my JE droid team against this one Lando team and in both cases the opposing team went before my JE.
My JE is 201 speed plus his bonus of +50. The Lando team's fastest character is Han at 198 speed plus Lando's +15 lead. But both times almost all the characters on the opposing team get to take the first action, resulting in most of my guys dying.
I've looked at all the stats and can't figure out how this is happening. Little help?
They groaned, they stirred, they all uprose, Nor spoke, nor moved their eyes; It had been strange, even in a dream, To have seen those dead men rise.
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No seriously, nothing can tell you something helpful without some more details
192 + 45 + 15 = 252 = goes before your JE.
Had forgotten about that, THAT makes a lot of sense now.
Biggs assist attack pulls ST Han. Han gains TM? plus his lando lead, this is enough to beat JE?
Welcome to end of droids. Until you also have uber speed mods, your JE speed advantage is nothing. Droids do not circumvent need for uber speed mods, lol. Droids are done. You have RNG chance to beat Wiggs. You can RNG chance to beat Rex. Everybody else can kick ur teeth in 99%.
Even if you go first, you will need RNG to beat Wiggs. Cuz your aoes fill Biggs and trigger ST Han Bluff. And even Anni AOE is huge against glass cannon droidz.
So farm uber speed mods to remain RNG viable on offense, only. Or ditch droids.
Yup. I've started to see a big decline to my droid team a few weeks ago. The standard now seems to be Emperor/Lando teams. This Lando/Wedge team is not something that I've seen before but they win on speed like you said which then chains into half my team dying before I can do anything. The Emperor/Lando team is usually damned if you do, damned if you don't as leaving either Emperor or Lando alive means bad stuff from then on. Oh well. Looks like P2P are finally getting their day while others are catching up. No biggie. I'll grind out Wedge just in time for another flavor of the month.
Don't be dense. Droids are fine. JE goes still goes first if equipped with the identical mods of Wedge/Biggs, and Wedge and Biggs are very squishy. Only raid Han ensures a Rebel Victory, and raid Han is not a good idea to leave in on defense because 1. he is squishy and 2. the ai has him shoot the wrong character half the time on.
Would you risk attacking a han in defense when you got other options?
Ich run him myself and I avoid him. Only thing I avoid more is wiggs with a faster sthan than mine
It depends what my other options are....
Like I said, raid han attacks the wrong toon about 50% of the time.
As for leaving Han on defense... lol. You think your droid team has better defense? You are wrong. Your droid team is completely walked over.
Raid han hitting JE even one in 5 is better defense than your droids can possibly muster. Your shard may be behind on the times, but it will catch up. Please don't call me dense for knowing what you do not.
The best thing to do for droids is to delete this post. The Wiggs team on my server that has Lando is running Wedge as lead. I knock them out for first at payout on a regular basis. If he figures this out - might be a problem...
The fact you can't beat a wiggs team with aayla to save your life, or several rex squads for that matter, are bonus points.
Calling Han Solo bad on defense is the funny part. That's why I responded how I did. 20% chance of defense is more than you got with your droids. Your droids can't defend against a paper cup.
If you have only 80% chance to win, that is potentially one battle and 10 minute timeout. If you can avoid that and still get to the next tier, by ~100% winning against a droid team, most people will eventually learn to do that.
When this happens, this is when droids will fall off the radar on your shard. And you will stop giving advice on droid teams. It will be as relevant as how to mod Sidious and Lumi.
Unlike some people think, droids are not auto 100% win on offense in end game. They are RNG win on offense, auto-lose on defense. You can't climb fast enough to maintain high payout using droids. And some teams will flat out block you. Unless you have the better mods by far. In that case you would still do better with a different squad.
Something that includes at least 5 of:
anni, ep, rex, fac, Wedge, biggs, lando, St han, rg, b2, 5s, aayla?
Of course droids didn't get many of those toons. Cuz anyone with rex was running rex. And most all the other toons are recent additions. Along with je and nebit and 2 other new jawas, droid users were busy diversifying their droid toons. Sigh.
Cheap and easy? Purple gear is purple gear. All gone and I wish I could scrap my entire droid squad for a couple stun cuffs and a blueberry muffin.
Ease up. We all have common enemy. Rex. Rebs and ep are gonna be hit with a hammer soon enough, too, after they get their time in the limelight.
To be honest, droid teams are experiencing what non droid teams were experiencing for months. One or two dead guys before you get to go. Wiggs and Landikin teams are very tough on speed but rex led teams are superceding them already so droid teams are pretty much 3 generations ago now.
It's not rocket surgery.
My tip: Just farm speed mods for 2 weeks strait, so your JE has around 234 base speed. Then you will always go first against Wedge/Biggs teams. Kill Wedge first and you are good to go.
He provides droids a significant and much needed defensive boost to the raid Han sniping as well as the Wiggo ohko.
For number 1, I daily have to beat Rex Lando EP StHan SF with my droid team. Odds are about 50/50 after I started single fire EP first. I think that is ok odds since he is running Rex as lead
We all have similar story. But bad news. That ends soon for most of us. Unless ur on a super inactive server, there is not enough time in the day for most droid teams to even get to the top of the heap. Just an fyi for you, bud. Expect the climb to get longer and harder everyday. Rex isn't even a choice. It is a one way slide. Expect that number to increase. Never decrease.
One day all ur battles will.be 50/50. Wiggs is pretty tough, too. And ur climb will be long.
If you expand out to rank 1-10, it goes up to 11% with hk-47 lead while the old meta drops off even more.
What does this mean? Droids do have staying power. Don't let one dogmatic naysayer tell you otherwise.