How to Track 600/600 daily for your Entire Guild.
October 28, 2016 4:57PM
edited October 2016
Hey Everyone!
I wanted to share how Team Instinct tracks it's members to ensure everyone is always 600/600 raid tickets (formally known as coins) - and How you can tell who is short, and exactly how much they are short!
**Doing it the way I'm about to show you, you don't need any spreadsheets or help outside of the game, and ANYONE in the guild can easily open up and see who is short- it's readable and understandable GUILD WIDE, and all the information is easily right there INSIDE the game!**
We all know "Daily Raid Tickets" is inaccurate - and once it's fixed, this information will no longer be valid, as we'll have the proper way to track working as intended.
Is anything accurate?
YES! "Lifetime Raid Tickets" are accurate!
So how do I use this to track my guild mates daily progress?
You need everyone to have "life time tickets" that are dividable by 600, when the player has either 0/600 or 600/600.
Step 1. A day or 2 before hand, alert everyone that if they don't have a lifetime ticket count dividable by 600 when they are 600/600, then they will need to "reset."
"Reset" means they will need to leave the guild, and rejoin the guild, to start the counter over on "lifetime raid tickets"
Step 2. Plan to RESET everyone immediately after a guild reset, this ensures no one wastes energy doing their 600/600, as well as make it possible to see who needs reseting.
Step 3. When your planned RESET comes; Immediately after the normal guild reset hits, Goto your guild, and sort by:
Step 4. Then, Sort High to Low for ease of view.
Step 5. Remove members who have a lifetime number that is not dividable by 600.
Step 6. As soon as they are removed, either invite them back, or ask them to join back ASAP.
Now what?
Everyone will be 100% Trackable at this point forward only in the view of "lifetime raid tickets"
Not everyone will have the same lifetime, THAT'S FINE! You are looking for numbers that are not dividable by 600.
In these screens, I know all these people are 600, because the guild is 30k, and all these people have dividable numbers by 600:
IF we were short from having 30k, I would simply look to see who had totals that were not dividable.
Lets say Player A has 18,500
And Player B has 8,263
All other players have dividable by 600 counts.
This tells me, Player A is short 100 energy (18,600 is marker he should be at) and Player B is short 137 energy (since 8400 is the marker to be at for a dividable 600 number)
Now I know exactly who is short, and by how much- EXACTLY!
Few tips:
>It takes coordinating and strong communication, ensuring everyone in the guild knows that the guild will be rolling out a plan to get everyone on a tracking count. You don't want people to be confused about the plan or why they got removed. Plan early and get the information out ahead of time!
>Don't do it during a raid. Plan it to be between raids.
>Allow players a 6 hour or more window to have time to get back into the guild after the reset, before you start a raid (otherwise they will prob be locked out of that raid).
>Always plan to reset right after your guild reset, otherwise you don't honestly know who was already dividable by 600, and spent some coins for that day, making their lifetime count look inaccurate.
> You'll easily see patterns on what the break points should be for everyone's lifetime, so figuring out "what number is dividable by 600" will come very easily, and it won't be complex
What if someone is short one day?
If they come up short, it means their lifetime will now be off every day forward. In Team Instinct, if anyone is short, we remove them before the reset, bring an alt in and score 600/600 quick, to ensure the Team gets the full 30k. After reset, we remove the alt, allow the 'offender' to come back (thus resetting them back to lifetime being dividable by 600), and give them a raid penalty, since they just caused us to remove them and score 600/600 in one sitting on an alt. If your guild wants to stay on top of 600 management, you'll need to reset people after they mess up (of course, the penalty is whatever you want there to be, if one). You could always just cash in less than 30k that day, and then ask the person to reset, to ensure easy tracking once more.
Happy to answer any Q/A on this - Hope it helps!
Stormy
Team Instinct
I wanted to share how Team Instinct tracks it's members to ensure everyone is always 600/600 raid tickets (formally known as coins) - and How you can tell who is short, and exactly how much they are short!
**Doing it the way I'm about to show you, you don't need any spreadsheets or help outside of the game, and ANYONE in the guild can easily open up and see who is short- it's readable and understandable GUILD WIDE, and all the information is easily right there INSIDE the game!**
We all know "Daily Raid Tickets" is inaccurate - and once it's fixed, this information will no longer be valid, as we'll have the proper way to track working as intended.
Is anything accurate?
YES! "Lifetime Raid Tickets" are accurate!
So how do I use this to track my guild mates daily progress?
You need everyone to have "life time tickets" that are dividable by 600, when the player has either 0/600 or 600/600.
Step 1. A day or 2 before hand, alert everyone that if they don't have a lifetime ticket count dividable by 600 when they are 600/600, then they will need to "reset."
"Reset" means they will need to leave the guild, and rejoin the guild, to start the counter over on "lifetime raid tickets"
Step 2. Plan to RESET everyone immediately after a guild reset, this ensures no one wastes energy doing their 600/600, as well as make it possible to see who needs reseting.
Step 3. When your planned RESET comes; Immediately after the normal guild reset hits, Goto your guild, and sort by:
Step 4. Then, Sort High to Low for ease of view.
Step 5. Remove members who have a lifetime number that is not dividable by 600.
Step 6. As soon as they are removed, either invite them back, or ask them to join back ASAP.
Now what?
Everyone will be 100% Trackable at this point forward only in the view of "lifetime raid tickets"
Not everyone will have the same lifetime, THAT'S FINE! You are looking for numbers that are not dividable by 600.
In these screens, I know all these people are 600, because the guild is 30k, and all these people have dividable numbers by 600:
IF we were short from having 30k, I would simply look to see who had totals that were not dividable.
Lets say Player A has 18,500
And Player B has 8,263
All other players have dividable by 600 counts.
This tells me, Player A is short 100 energy (18,600 is marker he should be at) and Player B is short 137 energy (since 8400 is the marker to be at for a dividable 600 number)
Now I know exactly who is short, and by how much- EXACTLY!
Few tips:
>It takes coordinating and strong communication, ensuring everyone in the guild knows that the guild will be rolling out a plan to get everyone on a tracking count. You don't want people to be confused about the plan or why they got removed. Plan early and get the information out ahead of time!
>Don't do it during a raid. Plan it to be between raids.
>Allow players a 6 hour or more window to have time to get back into the guild after the reset, before you start a raid (otherwise they will prob be locked out of that raid).
>Always plan to reset right after your guild reset, otherwise you don't honestly know who was already dividable by 600, and spent some coins for that day, making their lifetime count look inaccurate.
> You'll easily see patterns on what the break points should be for everyone's lifetime, so figuring out "what number is dividable by 600" will come very easily, and it won't be complex
What if someone is short one day?
If they come up short, it means their lifetime will now be off every day forward. In Team Instinct, if anyone is short, we remove them before the reset, bring an alt in and score 600/600 quick, to ensure the Team gets the full 30k. After reset, we remove the alt, allow the 'offender' to come back (thus resetting them back to lifetime being dividable by 600), and give them a raid penalty, since they just caused us to remove them and score 600/600 in one sitting on an alt. If your guild wants to stay on top of 600 management, you'll need to reset people after they mess up (of course, the penalty is whatever you want there to be, if one). You could always just cash in less than 30k that day, and then ask the person to reset, to ensure easy tracking once more.
Happy to answer any Q/A on this - Hope it helps!
Stormy
Team Instinct
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Right?
Would make things so much easier.
I never thought of this. Nice Job Stormy.
With that said, just fix the daily tracking in the guild management.
Correct, if you were short 600, and everyone was dividedable 600 lifetime, you would have to screenshot everyone's life time, and the following day figure out who doesn't move
0 is actually easy to get in daily, just use 600 energy within few minutes after guild resets, daily ticket is unreliable information as there is no way to guarantee it counts, one time I actually got 0 in daily despite starting to spend energy 14 hours after guild reset, so you can't use the daily count list for jack
But I agree it would be odd to not playing for a whole day and not informing your guildies
Yes, that's an option too, however, I wanted everyone to understand how to do it without going outside of the game, and anyone in the entire guild can see/track without leaving the game.
We'll probably stick with screenshots since we have set things up that way but this is probably less work overall unless you have guys missing a lot.
TI is not strict. After you become a member the only basic requirement is generate your 600 coin per day, which is extremely easy to do. Of course you also need to participate in raids and stay active, but doing your 600 coin per day is a requirement in the majority of all top guilds. Most active players can easily do this with little or no investment.
This.
However lifetime is not always accurate. A couple of members have had 16 (always that number) guild coins missing.
Then you'd check last login. Anyone that has zero is likely over 24 hours from their last.
We have lots leave the guild and have weeded out those that do not contribute at all. The ones that join usually are very interactive cause they have lots to "prove" when they join.
The Daily is very inaccurate and should just be removed.
Or the Daily should only track the current day's coins so you can see who is not meeting their dailies before reset.
The weekly contribution was good enough for a huge number of guilds out there. It was the only tracked contribution that was all that useful. The daily changes too frequently and is inaccurate. The lifetime varies greatly depending upon how long the person has been in guild. The weekly was the perfect sweet spot in between. People who were inactive showed up with giant neon signs in the weekly.
Nagging and just typing in the totals to the spreadsheet is kind of time consuming.
That said it was 99% accurate.
I keep a weekly sheet which takes about 10 minutes at most to update but our guild is a little less restrictive and just require 2000 weekly donations. Most members hit the maximum anyways so it's not an issue other than knowing someone quits playing without saying anything.
As long as it's a multiple of 600 they should be fine, and if it isn't then just let them know you're kicking them so they can rejoin quickly
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