fix the tank raid please
November 11, 2016 6:43AM
edited November 2016
I know Halloween just passed as did the presidential election, but I'm hoping you guys are all celebrated out, and can fix this raid before the year 2020. That is all.
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PS: GW is also taking forever to complete. This game is becoming a nuisance, people with jobs and a social life aren't being able to play anymore.
I fully agree. They should add a huge red button right smack in the middle of the screen that would automatically complete all the daily tasks for you when you press it: challenges, arena (automatically granting you first place, naturally), GW, cantina (40 shards daily AT LEAST!), hard mode battles and raids. You open the app, press the button and go on about your business...
On a more serious note, while I agree with the part about the long tank animations, GW is not that big a deal. I usually do it on the bus to/from work, sometimes I spend a few minutes in the evening and I finish it daily. The whole thing takes what, 30-40 minutes? Maybe from time to time it takes about 50 minutes to an hour tops when the final nodes are lvl 82+ and have RG who can take forever to bring down. And yes, I have a family, I have a social life and I have a job.
Psssh Look at this guy with the life. You wanna add in that they're very supportive of your decisions huh! Nerd! xD
I agree with the GW, for me it's actually the most interaction I've had with the game recently, We do Rancor fast, I don't use refreshes for arena and sim the heck out of the battles for gear/shards.
Btw as a fun fact I noticed GW in my head is pronounced Jee-Wu.
From some of the youtubers that have visited EA/CG, I get the feeling that they will add another tier to the tank raid, to cater to the lower level guilds. Though a fine solution for those guilds, offer just this would only make matters worse for higher level guilds. It creates more arguments on what raid to do and top players will be pushed to leave towards whale-guilds even more (or starting players are cut in favor for more advanced players).
The additional fix we need is simple:
Balance the raid so that you can finish it with 30 maxed players (all doing 3% dmg per phase), rather then 50. This way, players that don't have at least 4 fully maxed out squads aren't considered dead weight and kicked from their guilds. Also, it allows for specialisation within the guild, with one player focusing on phases 1 and 3 and others taking care of 2 and 4 for instance
If they do this, EA/CG show that they do care for the non-whales and I'm sure all complaints will quickly die away.
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If it takes a full hour to do that one single activity everyday (same here), then something IS wrong. If you don't see that, then maybe you're not paying attention to your life as you should - or maybe you are, and that's exactly why you seek refuge in the game, but hey, that's none of my business I don't wanna hear about your boring bus routine.
Anyway... I haven't even talked about wednesdays, when most people have 3 GW to do if they wanna get 36 nodes, which would ammount to what? 3 hours of gameplay in a single activity? And on top of that, there's this boring new raid....Seriously, get a life..... This is a mobile game and EA is alienating their base players.
+1.
Where do I sign?
In short, the tank raid is NOT fun. And people don't play this game to not have fun. My guild members are saying that doing their tank raid attemps feels like taking medicine every day: they know they should, but they hate it. Please fix.
EA/CG forgot it was a phone/tablet game. It should be about convenience. Most people I know that play just sim their attacks because it is so long and boring. They do that because they have figured out what works but now they just have to get through the grind.
I enjoy GW because I try out crazy lineups to see what toons can do or what works. Like if it is droids I use jawas and move around leaders so I can see what works. As for arena, it is full convenience. I attack a few times through the day and a couple right before reset (now that is a little harder due to DST and it rolling back one hour).
You're complaining about 1 hour of content a day? Who cares if this is a mobile game, people have been screaming for more content and now that it's here they complain it's too much. No one is forcing you to complete 36 nodes of gw in a day, that's entirely up to you. And this new raid is definitely not boring, unless your roster isn't prepared for it which is understandable
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Yes, there clearly is: you're playing the wrong game. GW is working as intended. It is GoH's equivalent of a "campaign" and it's supposed to take time. If it takes you an hour every day then you should try changing your team, because clearly the one you have is not enough.
Why? Just because I manage to find the time for the game and a normal life?
Well, I'm sorry to tell you that that's the way forums work: you write stuff and people reply. However, if instead of possible solutions and suggestions all you want is a pat on the back, then... Yeah, you're absolutely right, I fully agree with you, definitely +1.
A single FULLY OPTIONAL activity. Don't know about your guild, ours requires only 12 nodes to be completed. No one is forcing you to do a full 3 rounds of GW.
Perhaps you simply need a break from the game? I'm not saying this to spite you or whatever, but maybe if what's supposed to be a fun activity becomes a chore, taking some time off might be a good idea.
Dunno why ppl want everything handed to them on a silver platter and don't understand that this game is intended to b a grind. Ppl compare their progress to whales and then snivel.
Sad what has become of our youth. Entitled, whiney snivelers thinking they r owed something that have 0 patience. Make this faster, give me more, blah blah blah.
As for the complaints about how long GW takes, no sympathy from me there. For me the fun in playing the game comes from the actual combat, and GW is the bulk of the combat you actually play instead of just using sim tickets. If you are someone who only wants to collect all the characters, then do only the early easy nodes of GW, there were lots of players during the last tournament who had all the GW store characters maxed out and tons of currency to spare, so even a very casual player should be able to unlock all the characters there in a relatively short amount of time. And if you are someone who neither enjoys the combat aspect or the collecting aspect of the game, then why on earth are you playing for in the first place.
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I am playing this game for about 6 months and never see something to become easier
Wrong (Trump quote). Although you are entitled to your opinion, I never asked you about your bus routine. I just don't wanna know about it, so you should keep the irrelevant information to yourself. Everyone has a different routine, if you have a lot of time to spare then good for you. My critique is about my understanding about what the game was and what it has become, it has nothing to do with your personal life.
Everything is optional, even playing the game is optional. If that's how you wanna take it, then everything will always be fine for you and tRRRey in your mighty complacency.
YES, that's exactly what I'm talking about! This is a mobile phone/tablet game but the business model is changing for worse and alienating the base players. I get it that you're stuck in your own perspective and don't give a rat's xxx about other people, but maybe the EA guys should worry about it, after all it's their business.
Clearly I'm coming to that conclusion as well right from the start. But no, I don't think it's working as intended, unless the intention is to slowly drive people away. Mobile games are known for their practicality, but this is not practical any longer.
You shouldn't presume to know what you don't know. I use one or two teams to make the entire thing, if it takes 40 minutes to 1 hour to complete it, there is something wrong cause when the game started it wasn't like this. The game has been changing for the worse, it's becoming bigger, slower and unpleasant, and its not because of my teams (which you don't know nothing about) its the algorithm's fault.
I do agree that it is a bit boring and that the animations are slow.
IMO the rewards are horrid but necessary. Until Tank Raid gear is added elsewhere your choices are to run the Raid or save crystals and buy in shipments.
Just auto it everyday it costs nothing but time, you don't loose out in running the rancor raid or energy for other things etc. It has its own currency to open and you will need the rewards to progress unless you are going to save and spend crystals.
I do 36 nodes on Tuesday and it takes me under an hour in total. The lesson here is to built an optimal team with the right mods instead of claiming that the system is rigged against you
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So basically we're back to the big red button that does everything for you. If you don't want to spend some time playing the game daily, what's the point of playing at all?
Well, the same goes for just about any game out there, regardless of whether it's WoW, EVE, Battlefield... every game requires a time investment and once that game is, as you put it, "obsolete", you are never getting that time back.
Well, I could say that no one asked you about your thoughts on how long GW takes, but I would be, quoting you, "wrong". You have the right to voice your opinion, I have the right to respond to it in any way that I please, even by telling you a story about pink fluffy unicorns dancing on rainbows. Sorry.
Indeed. And my response was only a suggestion of how one could go about fixing the problem. You know, that's what people do sometimes, try to help others.
The business model is the same as it's always been: "get as much cash out of the players as possible by any means necessary". Although in all honesty, I didn't believe they would move away from charging crystals for tournamemt refreshes.
What was that you said? "You shouldn't presume what you don't know"? Let's try to keep personal comments out of this, shall we?
GW has been like this from the very beginning. It's always been the activity that takes the most time every day. Except that now finishing it actually provides you with some benefits like guild coins.
And this game IS practical. You can skip about 90% of the content (hard mode, cantina, challenges) and the rest you can autoplay, which is faster.
I don't know when you started, I started in early December 2015 and I haven't noticed an increase in the time it takes me to finish GW. Actually I believe the opposite is true, I used to struggle to complete it, sometimes wiping out my entire roster by node 9 or 10, now I finish it every single day. And, just to chceck how long it takes, I timed it yesterday. 23 minutes 44 seconds from start to finish (node 12). No autoplay, one team swap along the way. If it takes you 40-60 minutes daily, my point stands - try a different team.
Well, parts of this I can agree with. And when I came to the conclusion that the game is taking up more of my time than I can give it (back in April or so, soon after guilds were introduced), I just took a few months' break. Came back to it about 2 months ago and I'm enjoying it again. Maybe this is what you need as well?
Why does your guild have GW requirement? It doesn't affect guild bank, only personal bank
For the same reason we have a PvP requirement or Challenge requirement - so that people (ie the whole fuild) get the most guild coins they can. The requirement is usually the barest minimum (12 GW nodes, 5 PvP battles, 8 Challenges). Of course, they are ONLY required on the days when these are guild daily activities, not every day, that would be silly.
Nope, that "big red button" thing is merely a strawman fallacy coming from what appears to be an internet troll. I'm just asking for practicality, like the game used to be. And then again, spending some time playing is different from spending a lot of time playing.
Those are not mobile games. I don't play them, so I wouldn't know anything about them. But what I do know is that mobile games are known for their practicality. If they weren't, people would not be complaining as much as they are right now.
You could say that about the point I'm making, but this forum is meant to talk about such things, not about your personal life, unicorns and rainbows. But if that statement haven't convinced you to do otherwise, I'm asking you not to, cause it's irrelevant and it bores me. If you won't comply I'll be sure you're just a troll and be forced to ignore your comments.
There is no "fixing the problem" there, just some random dude talking about how much time he has to spare. No one cares about that, we are talking about the changes that have been implemented in-game.
That being said, driving players away is a weird way to do that.
If it's true what you said about being playing this game for as long as I do, you should have noticed by now that GW completion time has been increased. However if you refuse to admit that fact, you can always research this topic in the forums and you'll notice this is a pretty common thread. The simulators were a really great feature added to the game though, but bear in mind that they only created this feature in response to our pleas for more practicality.
When you have a weak roster that's usually what happens. But I'm not talking about that.
Then please make a youtube video and post the URL showing us your magic formula. As for me, I've always used the same teams (with some minor modifications to follow the meta off course) and have always been successful. However the sheer amount of time needed to be successful has increased tremendously, and that pretty much sucks. Therefore, in my point of view, GW is not fun any longer.
Nah... A break won't solve my problem, if I leave I'll quit for good. It is preferable that the developers take notice at the feedback and fix this thing (like they did a hundred times).