Congrats to all the people complaining about Barriss/Dooku being OP :P
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/754/known-issues-12-4-2015
KNOWN ISSUES
Characters
Barriss Offee healing abilities.
Count Dooku being too powerful.
KNOWN ISSUES
Characters
Barriss Offee healing abilities.
Count Dooku being too powerful.
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then you'll see Sidious and Vader everywhere....
....And again, the cycle that those two are OP'd and everywhere in PvP teams will cause another cry for power nerf.
shrug
I've seen the videos; I know there are plenty of solid options to counter Barriss. When everyone in my bracket starts to get those characters, we'll see a shift where maybe not every single team I play against has her and/or I'll have options to deal with her. For now though, just as I'm starting to play and deciding whether the game is worth my time and money, I'm dominated by her.
Were she merely just another chromium-only character that anyone could get by buying their way to her or getting lucky (like many other powerful characters that aren't nearly so popular), this wouldn't be a problem. The only people that would be playing her would be the lucky and the big spenders. I'm totally cool with that. The problem is that everyone has her and the meta kinda sucks right now due to that. I'm going to stick with it since I trust my 7* farmables will wreck her once people figure out how hard she is to rank up. I can't say the same for everyone in the same boat.
At level 60, maxed gear and skills, dear old Ben has HP like a tank, and has an AoE, 100% skill block and damage debuff lasting 2 turns, defendable only by resistance. He hits pretty well too, unlike Barriss.
- "let's kill him first then!
Impossible. Old Ben has a passive that grants the entire team critical up, evasion up, speed up, defense up for 2 turns, once he dies. Kill him, and the rest of the team murders you, and he isn't that easy to bring down either.
Verdict: Can't choose to burst him down first, since he buffs all characters ridiculously once dead. Leave him alone and he debuff your team so badly, you are quite dead as you likely can't heal or do any dmg for 2 turns. Not much viable debuff cleansing heroes now either. Therefore, he's a hero that almost has no counters against him.
Only saving grace: Chromium unique. Only super payers can put him to use by getting multiple copies of him for 5*.
Of cos you can always dedicate your dooku to old Ben defense duty, hope you stun or ability block him on attack Hahaha.
I've been saying that there are more powerful characters than Dooku and Barriss but no one ever seems to listen because all they care about is "Barriss/Dooku is what's stopping me from getting what I want right now!"
Not to mention the people complaining right now are mainly in the level 30-50 range and have no idea what to expect when they hit 60.
But don't worry, I'm sure once they come across Old Ben a few times they'll start to complain about how OP he is and that he's P2W because he's Chromium card exclusive and try to get him nerfed too
They shouldn't have made them purchasable, but at this point it's too late. However, nerfing them isn't the real answer, especially if EA wants to continually make money... All those people that paid for them, the ones that are most likely to continually spend money on the game, will lose faith in the value that they are purchasing. Why the hell am I going to spend $50 on characters that you are going to find OP in a couple of weeks because people who don't know how to counter them say they are, when they really aren't, and then nerf them? It's not good for business... Like David said, you want to nerf someone? Just wait until next characters are released and there's another "OP" character in there that everyone will complain about. It's a vicious never ending cycle.
Personally I've found everyone but Old Ben very well balanced. As Zero said, only saving grace is he's a card pull only and can't be farmed..... Yet....
Looking for allies level 40+
I would love to see a team with Old Ben, Tarkin, Fett, IG-88, and Vader. You could potentially have the whole enemy team in constant offense down and ability lock down for a whole fight, you probably wouldn't even need a healer because they would all do pithy damage, while Vader could pick them off one by one with his Culling Blade after hitting them with Force Crush
The crying is really annoying. First it was aoe now barriss and dooku. The dev shd switch on aoe again so it would keep some of them forum people occupied for another month. Before they move on to some other character. Yep barriss hits non existant. Better prep your luminara guys
I don't think they'll nerf Barriss hard.
Most people's complaints stem from the fact that her heal seems to ignore the heal immunity debuff and that she has a lot of HP.
Those two things are the only thing she has going for her right now because her damage is atrocious. There's literally no other reason to have Barriss on your team other than for the HP boost (as leader) or to have a healer that can survive more than 3 hits.
I haven't heard the devs mention anything about her HP level but they have mentioned that they're discussing internally if her heal ability needs to be revised.
I've posted this 2 or 3 times in these forums already but I'll say it again:
When Barris is the last character standing and she has heal immunity on her, she gains no health at all when she casts her heal.
This makes sense to me because a) she has a heal immunity debuff on her so the 2nd part of her heal shouldn't work, and b) she has no other allies on her team still alive to "equalise" her health with.
Because of this I'm actually of the belief that the "health equaliser" portion of her heal ability shouldn't be affected by the heal immunity debuff and is working as intended.
As you pointed out, that special heal is all she has going for her. She is basically a pure healer and brings nothing but healing and HP to the table. If they nerf her healing, what use is she?
I absolutely agree with you that there's a matter of principle here.
I would be quite annoyed too if I spent the $50 (actually the pack would have cost $80 here since I'm in Australia
Like many others have said in other threads, if EA go ahead and nerf Barriss because of the complaints from F2P players they will be shooting themselves in the foot because then those who were willing to actually pay money for this game are less willing to do so in future if they're uncertain that their purchases could change so easily and so soon after they made the purchase.
But to nerf something a week after I bought it for a specific reason -- that is not right.
It's the same across the gaming world. That's another reason why Microtransactions are At so despised in multiplayer games. Every multiplayer goes through buffs and nerfs, we both know that. However, multiplayer games with Microtransactions punish paying players the most, because in order for people to buy it, it must be OP, but they can't let it start OP, because it will run off loads of free players, who are potential sales.
Differences aside, purely from a principle standpoint, it is messed up when customers get taken advantage of; which is why I never pay for any performance enhancing items, as they are ALWAYS subject to change, plus creates a cheesy environment.
I don't know if you've checked out paragraph 3 & 5 of the Terms of Service, but EA has themselves covered.
http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/webterms/us/en/pc#section5
Wouldn't even bother reading them, of course EA has themselves covered. I knew that going in.
You know, I think people really lose perspective when it comes to these games. On the one hand you have people who spend thousands of dollars -- someone I know has spent over $3,000 since hard launch. And on the other you have people who act like spending $5 or even $50 on IAPs is the end of the world.
This is my favorite mobile game so far, I lucked into finding it as I just happened to be looking for a new game when it came out, and finally I found something fun that I got in on the ground floor on instead of starting a year after everyone else. I've spent $60 on the game so far. That's the cost of a decent dinner and a movie, and I've gotten dozens of hours of entertainment from this already.
I *will* be careful with future purchases if they start nerfing pack contents, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.