Thanks for Making Shoretrooper Irrelevant and PTP
I'm seriously peeved about how the release of Shoretrooper was handled. Not only was he locked away in chromiums, but he was also made completely irrelevant with the introduction of Baze, also in chromiums, who can do the one thing Shore is used for, and then does 4-5 other things.
But want to know the best part? No one buying chromiums will even use Shoretrooper. They're going to use Baze, who, as I said, is better in every way. Meanwhile, all ftp who tried hard to earn their Shoretroopers in tourneys, with the hope of using him as a counter to so many other meta ptp toons, now don't even get to 7* him.
Sure, he's 'basically' just as good at 3* compared to 7* since he just needs his instataunt, but then why lock ftp players from taking him to 7*, when whales won't even use their own Shoretroopers.
To put this into perspective, I have a reference for all Walking Dead fans: We basically just had our hard-earned mattresses stolen by people wanting our mattresses, but then they just burned our mattresses because they don't actually need our mattresses.
But want to know the best part? No one buying chromiums will even use Shoretrooper. They're going to use Baze, who, as I said, is better in every way. Meanwhile, all ftp who tried hard to earn their Shoretroopers in tourneys, with the hope of using him as a counter to so many other meta ptp toons, now don't even get to 7* him.
Sure, he's 'basically' just as good at 3* compared to 7* since he just needs his instataunt, but then why lock ftp players from taking him to 7*, when whales won't even use their own Shoretroopers.
To put this into perspective, I have a reference for all Walking Dead fans: We basically just had our hard-earned mattresses stolen by people wanting our mattresses, but then they just burned our mattresses because they don't actually need our mattresses.
FN 2187, Mighty Chlorians (spelt with a lowercase l not a capital I): Heroic AAT Guide, The Gear Grind
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What's even worse is the immense 'price tag' that was put on Shore on the first 2 tourneys, just to have him immediately replaced and completely outdated by some new chromium toon.
gonna take at least that many crystals to 7* baze too.
this whole update stinks i have no problems paying for stuff, mostly gear and refreshes (3 days and im 85) but this is another level, if it were in pesos instead of dollars i wouldnt mind. butdam
Plus like u said tfp is available ..
So right now u can have ep + shore + tfp maxed ready for arena...
How soon will we see baze + monk in arena...
Stop seeing drama when there is not...
All toons has a 3 months expiration date in this game since its release... (Except Rex lol but he finally got it now).
I don't see baze + monk being a real issue in next 2/3 months... Except maybe 10/15 whale in the game that will have them both maxed...
I'd rather have a 600k ally point shore than a 2k usd 5* baze people are commenting
This is an issue. i am okay with him being chromium. I wanted him elsewhere, but just glad I don't have to wait a month to finish him. What isn't okay is making someone nearly, or proabably, strictly better and release him at the same time to negate all the cost and effort of the first two tourneys. It's predatory towards the players.
Does Shore also dispel all enemies, dispel another enemy, and have some pseudo-wiggs synergy? Baze is 100% better. Also, no, I will not have Shore maxed for arena because I can't finish his shards, no matter how much gear I give him. EP lead TFP Chirrut Baze +1 will eternally be a better team than with Shore instead. I bet even having Baze in there alone is still better, because then you don't need to waste a spot with B2.
On that note, I can see the new meta being EP lead TFP Chirrut Baze SF.
Exactly. All spending (esp in the first tourney) was invalidated because of Baze being introduced. Who's to say there won't be a toon soon that completely invalidates Chirrut after he's done in tourneys?
It made me realize nothing is "sacred" this is a game.
I thought I could gripe or continue. I decided "Game ON!"
So many thinks wrong and overlooked...
I guess the word empire synergy probably doesn't mean much in your book...
I won't use ep lead cause GK will clearly outperform... But not using shore under ep is just stupid... Heal/Crit immunity/synergy...
I guess the fact u haven't used him maxed probably is what limits your understanding of his strength below ep lead...
Anyway I was just here saying I do not agree at all baze killed shore...
It will all depend on the toons u have with you...
There isn't a meta anymore, there are 10 op toons from which to choose and combinations will need to be chosen to maximize synergies... Not just cause the toon is "better than anyone else"
i will lol if its jyn ezro
Once I have the luxury of having any toon I want maxed, then I'll get back to you on EP shore synergy. When fighting those teams in arena, it doesn't really matter because I can just quick dispel shore then ability block him and he's useless for the rest of the match. Baze will still have 4-5 other abilities that come into play, plus Chirrut can just clear debuffs when paired with him so meh doesn't matter if you put debuffs on Baze.
For sake of argument let me just "beat" that team of yours with a current FTP team
Qgj lead, wiggs anakin b2
Ultrafast qgj lead, dispels baze,
Anakin buff immunity on tfp
Wiggs assist kill ep, and wiggs aoe take tfp out of protection
Next anakin aoe your tfp is dead
Wait for monk to dispel and use ur b2 aoe buff immunity...
Game over.
So again don't think that become a toon looks cool he can replace anyone else...
Baze is awesome... Granted, but so are many other toons (shore SF GK ep tfp b2 ahsoka etc...) and he didn't invalidated them
Who says the enemy TFP doesn't go first? He has very high natural speed, and could easily go before Ani. Doesn't matter. It could go a number of ways based on mods, rng, what-have-you. The point is that releasing Baze and Shore in chromiums is incomprehensible. If you are going to buy chromiums and get both Shore and Baze to 7*, which are you more likely to use? The instataunt that does one thing, or the instataunt that is part wiggs part B2 part RG part 5s? And yes, Chirrut being preset gives Baze a counter chance and health steal of SF, which Shore also doesn't do.
EDIT: since basically every toon has a dispel now (obvious exaggeration to emphasize a point) crit immunity is easy to get around.
I do agree that the implementation of both in chrome packs is dumb though, and a kick in the nuts to FTP.
Aside from arena, I'd love to try Shore in P3 Heroic AAT using the Chirpatine team, but can't try that either unfortunately if he's chromium only.
And without Baze, Chirut isn't anything super special, so nobody has to go hard in the tournament. So it all works out.
Ok so let me get this straight...
12k heal + taunt on super fast cool down + Crit immunity is meh, Crit chance down while getting 20% tm (oh yeah he is under ep lead) is meh + auto heal from empire using special is meh
But crazy slow baze that will literally be killed before even taking 2 turns is op... Yeah right... (His max hp armor and resistance will be much lower shore under ep)
Oh btw anakin under qgj lead is 1 speed slower than tfp... So yeah easy to make him faster or at least we are back at seeing who has best mods... Not who has best toons...
Yeah agree with this. Definitely being able to run 2 distinct pre-taunt teams in tournaments at high ranks will be very useful indeed.
Yea exactly where I want to use him, crit immunity there gives you a lot more survivability and damage potential. Plus, obviously the immediate taunt.
*spoiler alert* The best taunt combo remains RG SF sthan for high scores... Shore has more utility in other phase.
Hmm, which phase would that be? haha
Well good thing Shore is ptp only so the ptp can use SF instead of Shore here (yes another phase he's useful, but I'm trying to make a point).
*sigh*