Equal refreshes for all would make tournaments better.
The current system of refreshing characters and teams using ally points (while dramatically better than crystal refreshes) still makes the tournaments skewed and unbalanced for those involved.
One could simply skip a tourney and save up all those ally points to be sure they can secure a top spot in the next tourney (provided they can put up a strong team). The advantage of having more of the expense required to refresh your teams is the largest factor in how well you place in the tournament.
I propose that all players should have the same amount of allowed refreshes per character and those that can put up the stronger teams (that don't lose anyone while attacking) will naturally have the advantage in these tournaments.
That's the idea isn't it? That those with the strongest rosters and teams should be the top dogs and place highest in these tournaments...
How about we reward the players that have invested the time and/or money to build up strong rosters and teams rather than rewarding the players that have saved up the most currency for refreshes or are willing to spend the most cash to do well in the tournament?
Thoughts and feedback are appreciated as always!
One could simply skip a tourney and save up all those ally points to be sure they can secure a top spot in the next tourney (provided they can put up a strong team). The advantage of having more of the expense required to refresh your teams is the largest factor in how well you place in the tournament.
I propose that all players should have the same amount of allowed refreshes per character and those that can put up the stronger teams (that don't lose anyone while attacking) will naturally have the advantage in these tournaments.
That's the idea isn't it? That those with the strongest rosters and teams should be the top dogs and place highest in these tournaments...
How about we reward the players that have invested the time and/or money to build up strong rosters and teams rather than rewarding the players that have saved up the most currency for refreshes or are willing to spend the most cash to do well in the tournament?
Thoughts and feedback are appreciated as always!
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As they should...
My understanding from what was stated initially was that the tournaments were supposed to reward those with the deepest and strongest rosters. If someone sank thousands of dollars into this game then they should have some advantage in something like a player tournament.
Maybe I'm biased but that seems reasonable to me... sure the "strong get stronger" but those people spening a lot of money will do that regardless
The only problem with this argument is no one made you play.
Of course if you are the person that has it easier than others you think it's fair since it rewards players that have been playing a long time (you) but that isn't what people think of w "tournament" which is supposed to be competitive for all entrants. The "you got 10 free credits, shut up while I pound in arena w an exclusive toon" is pathetic.
Group shards like arena. For 90% it's not worth spending more than 10 mins a day on.
I could get on board with this.
That's an interesting idea as well...
Each character gets 3 deaths. It could be weighed by wins or losses and in fact that would actually give some meaning to defensive teams and make them have more significance.
I might be crazy but I don't think that someone who just started playing 2 months ago or someone that casually has played the game for some time should not be able to kick butt in the tournament vs players that have invested more... be it time or money.
Some might even say that time is money (quite literally in this game where spending money reduces the time for the gains)
The tournament should reward what you have already achieved... rather than what expense you are willing give.
Late Friday night Saturday morning was the only time I was able to really spend on the tournament.
I made it to top 200 or so with over 60k ally points left.
Unfortunately by this afternoon, I was knocked back to over a 1000 rank. I was able to spend 10 mins. and get to close to 750 but by the end of the tournament I was almost 1500 rank.
I get that not everyone has the same time commitments but making tourneys run the same time every time is just plain annoying as I am a weekend dad and have social functions and life.
I don't sweat it too much but some sort of rotating schedule would be nice.
Or alternatively set the allowed AP to a certain number, make it a 24hr event, with one reset midway (at the 12th hour mark), and simply have the tourney every week for the month (same shard). Increase the frequency to allow more players to acquire the top prize so it becomes less of a "whale hoarders" event.
First tournament was a cash grab, second one was fair and balanced in my bracket, third was not even close for me to being fair competitive and fun.
Wether you won or lost the event was decided by your ally point capital (or your willingness to spend it). It was not a tournament but an auction, just like before.
I would like to see an actual tournament where you increase rank for winning, decrease rank for loosing, and are matched to opponents based on rank. We can already buy everything in this game. Give us at least one thing we can earn by other means.
? The strongest rosters do win the tournament.
All the ally money in the world won't allow you to win/gain points to move up in the ranks if your team sucks.
If you do have said roster for your level/tournament bracket, it's your fault you did not save up your ally or galactic war money. You've had a month to prepare for this tournament.
I felt the exact same way, the first turnament I did really bad, the second tournament was much better and I scored in the top 100s and this third tourney I gave up all together because all the teams were power 40k+ and my strongest power team only goes up to 33k
Btw the second turney I was fighting teams with power of about 32k ~37k and my team power was about 32.5k at the time.
Why should game be?
+ 1 million
Ignorance is bliss.
That's simply not true, would love to show you the rosters of some of the top 10 finishers in my bracket, I have no idea how they won any battles let alone racked up massive point totals.
Actually it doesn't
Player A has 5 "Meta" characters. Ally point total 500k.
Player B has 10 "Meta" Characters (including the same 5 as player A) and 20 decent characters. Ally point total 20k
Player B has the stronger roster, a roster is more than just 5 characters.
Player A will have have final higher rank.
So no roster strength does not play into it as much as it should.
Tournament will be set to 4 days with the first day being the Setup day. Each player will have to set their 6 Total teams (1 Defense and 5 Offense). The following 3 days will be match-up days. Day 1 you face 1 person, day 2 you face a different person, day 3 you face final person.
Characters will have to have mods set on Setup Day and cannot be moved until Entire Tournament is over.
QUALIFICATIONS:
Minimum of 30 Characters
Defensive squad - First 5 characters you choose. These characters cannot be used on the offensive side.
Offense/Battle 1 - Select 5 characters. Cannot be used more than once per day
Offense/Battle 2 - Select next 5 characters. Again cannot be used more than once per day.
Offense/Battle 3 - Select next 5 characters. Again cannot be used more than once per day.
Same for Offense 4 and 5.
Everyone will start in Bracket 4 with players being in certain sections based on player level and # of 7 Star characters and gear etc..
Since this cannot be live PVP, you face the same player on that day until you either win 3 or lose 3. This means if (Battle Day 1) my match up is against XXX. Both XXX and I win 3 rounds we both move on to the next Bracket.
Everyone who lost 3 rounds against their matchup would stay in Bracket 4 while the winners move to Bracket 3.
REWARDS - At the end of the overall tournament.
The rewards last time were Shoretrooper shards and gear etc. Rewards could be something like this below:
Bracket 1 - Won all 3 days - Receives Full 7* Shoretrooper 3 full pieces of Raid gear, credits etc.
Bracket 2 - Won 2 out of 3 days - Receives 5 * Shoretrooper, 2 Full pieces of raid gear and salvage gear, credits etc.
Bracket 3 - Won 1 out of 3 days - Receives 3 * Shoretrooper, 1 full piece of raid gear and salvage gear
Bracket 4 - Won 0 out of 3 days - Receives same as Bracket 3 except no Shoretrooper shards.
In my Opinion, this will help the tournament be balanced and fair by limiting the number of attacks because of no refreshes with crystals or Ally coins or anything. Enabling refreshes at all still won't be fair. There are people with hundreds of thousands of Ally points while some have a mere 5000 or less.
My idea will be rewarding the large rosters because some people may have to go into Battle 4 or 5 and will need those 21 -25th or 26th - 30th characters to help win and move them to the next bracket.
if only 30 characters can be use you remove the advantage of a larger roster.
The major complaints have been the time commitment and the buying of first place with ally points, crystals what ever it will be next time.
Simply remove the paid for refreshes.
Daily time requirement is drastically reduced as you can only battle with as many teams as you have.
The players with the larger and stronger rosters will now have the advantage.
+1
I think having a limited number of deaths (or something similar) would be a much better option than the endless refreshing of ally points. It would reward those players with a deep roster, strong characters, and still cater to the whales and players since launch. I think the majority of people didn't want to spend 5+ hours grinding against the same teams over and over. Having a limited number of deaths / uses per character would be more strategic and involve many more characters. That might even entice players to broaden their rosters more and spend more to have 3-4 potential arena squads instead of just 1 meta arena squad.
The time spent on this felt excessive. As another suggested, could we shorten the duration of the event? Maybe move from 52 hours to say 36 hours?