I'm close to my 1st zeta and I'm between saving it for new abilities to come or give it to Qui-Gon cause I really love Jedis.
So,in case I choose the second option I'd really like your guys opinion on who to run as my fifth. The standard are
QGJ (l)
Ani
Aayla
Yoda(for tenacity)
Now the toons I'm between for 5th are:
Ashoka
Rex
Palpatine
B2
Ashoka is a Jedi so it's obvious why is a choice there.I run the other 3 in my current pvp team (along with ani and aayla)and each of them plays a crucial role:Rex dispels and gives tenacity up,palps stun and,more importantly,shocks b2 and others so they can't heal from chirrut' special or barris' zeta and b2...well you know why.
All the above are g11-except b2 who's g10 and rather fast(not extremely but still)
Opinions??
Thanks!
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Lol, so tell me about this TiTo squad I've been hearing about. I plan on dropping a zeta on all my jedi, so Barris is next. Is it the GK L, zarris, 5s, b2, aayla squad?
And obviously I don't have GK otherwise the 5th wouldn't be an issue
You're not shocking anybody for first two turns when yoda moves first and grants tenacity up and palpatine is way too squishy to survive much longer after that. I love facing your silly empire teams
I'm having difficulty swapping b2 out...
That being said, you should do as you please. Just know, QGJ's zeta will not provide any benefit on defense at all.
There is a player on my shard who runs QGJ, Yoda, Ani, Palp, and Shore. That would be a team to work towards. Honestly, all of your choices aren't that great. An auto tank would be best. B2 or Palp would be okay. I tried Ashoka with GK lead but that didn't work out too well. QGJ lead might be better for all I know. If you choose Rex I'd lose Yoda.
I'm just not seeing any viable options at this point. I'd save the zeta.
I agree, Plus EP is so slow when he doesn't gain tm from shocks or his stun. I run QGJ Zeta, yoda, ahsoka, jka, and St Han. my Yoda has 260 speed, pops tenacity up on first turn. TFP drops his aoe, it's all resisted. burn down tfp. then switch to JKA if there is one and leave EP for third (depending on the team). My yoda is so fast that he can get tenacity up again while St han is still taunting. Empire teams are cake for QGJ zeta
Interesting. First move Yoda spreads tenacity and foresight. Next move, my TFP gets rid of all foresight with his aoe. GK's negotiator grants everyone retribution. I'm assuming STH next. My EP goes. I'm not an **** so I let the hate flow so I don't damage STH. If EP goes first I still do that because tenacity is up anyway. JKA does his aoe and my whole team attacks STH. SF debuffs and EP shocks. At some point QGJ and Ashoka will go and get countered. When Yoda goes again he'll pull his aoe and my team will do the same against him as they did against STH. He will be useless after that. Now I'm free to shock your team and debuff with TFP. My team 5-0s your team within minutes. Even the time out teams designed to last the full five minutes will beat yours within a few minutes.
A zeta on QGJ does not help as much as a zeta on Vader, Maul, or even Barriss. Given the choice I will attack a zQGJ team, and win every single time.
And then you'll lose when we play you on defense. I target empire teams expect for the rare one where a Zader has a faster tfp than my yoda. Your point about defense mattering is moot.
I seriously don't understand how you're not understanding my argument. zQGJ teams are relatively easy to kill for all teams and you will be targeted way more often than not.
The only toon that's a bigger waste of a zeta is chewie.
I'm not sure that I can take your argument seriously after you say this is the second worst zeta behind chewie. His zeta and swapping him for Anakin as leader is the big reason I've been able to consistently cash out in the top 5 on my shard. There's certainly worse zetas out there.
As far as dropping rank goes, a lot of that depends on your shard. If there's two teams in your top twenty that run a qui gon zeta everyone else runs a wiggs or empire team, then it makes sense that you would drop rank more. This isn't because team your team is terrible on defense; it's because you get targeted more because your team looks different. Empire has become pretty meta and so your empire team probably won't drop as much rank simply because it blends in with the rest of the crowd.
Bottom line is you can fight yourself into first place using a qui gon zeta lead. You can beat most teams on offense and its good enough on defense to where you will start in a position in which you will be able to fight back to number one that day.
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Lol, yeah I exaggerated a little too much there. I would certainly zeta QGJ before Phasma, and Asajj at least. I equate a zQGJ to Kylo. Long ago, believe it or not, he wasn't a terrible toon. I loved going up against Dooku pre protection and pre counters going to taunts. Having reset abilities half the time was pretty cool. I made it to #1 on a daily basis. But having Kylo put a target on my back. Not because he was a bad toon but because people perceived it that way.
The same holds true for zQGJ. On paper, he's pretty BA. In game, he puts a target on your back. And it's not because he's different. It's because people have already figured out it's really easy to beat.
But I digress. It's your choice. I used Kylo because I enjoyed it. Use your QGJ.
We can agree to disagree here. You can easily cash out in the top 5, sometimes number 1, using QGJ zeta which is my end goal, even though sometimes I may wake up at 15. I don't really like using him as leader, but I like using Jedi and he's about three steps ahead of any other Jedi as far as leader abilities go right now.
I've decided to save it,only because the devs announced an update on February. And that only if another Jedi gets an awesome zeta ability (hoping for Ani). Otherwise, I hope that till then I'll be close to my 2nd- for Yoda and I'll zeta them together for a strong pvp team..!
Well sure, things change alot when there's a GK in the equation. Fortunately no one on my shard has a GK so I haven't had to modify my team comp facing him. I am also the only zeta'd team on my shard and I'm from a Dec 2015 shard so I guess they are all just behind. The usual empire teams I see are a combination of EP (l), TFP, JKA, Shore, RG, Vader, Boba. I also have some Rex leads with chaze and wiggs which I have no problems facing.
Like most people are mentioning. On Offense I have the ability to work my way back up to number 1. At most I fall to rank 25 and I can reach the top spot on one arena refresh. I don't like the idea of having teams that are unbeatable and can hold their rank on defense. I think that is a flaw in the game and will hopefully be addressed soon by the devs. I enjoy arena battles and making my way back up to 1st spot its more of an accomplishment than just staying there. You have to do three arena battles a day so right there that brings me back to the top 10 I have no problem doing two more after that to get the first spot.
I am now 42/145 for GK and I am really excited to incorporate GK into my Jedi team in the next month and a half. Arena should be about team synergy not just having all the op toons on one team. Lead abilities that are used to give boosts to 2-3 players in my opinion are too strong and should be tuned down so that it is only viable when 4-5 members benefit from the lead ability. QGJ lead is viable and will continue to get stronger and stronger. I can't see the devs ignoring the Jedi's so I am sure that other Jedis will be receiving zetas in the near future. Ahsoka, Jka, Aayla, IGD and other jedis have passives at lvl 7 still so they will likely be receiving zetas at some point. Jedi's are the core of the Star Wars universe so investing in them will never be a waste, the devs are never going to ignore them.