Seems like most jedi are not very good at all yet they are for the most part one of the hardest to get shards. There are heavy counters to them with sith and droids. Most jedi use dodge and/or healing to survive yet crit groups or healing immunity counters them hard. All sith counter jedi yet only a few jedi counter anything and its always droids. I'm not saying there are not good jedi like Lumi is good and one of the few jedi you can get shards for easy. I also find Barriss Offee really good although like most jedi, VERY hard to get shards for. I just feel like a full jedi team could ever be a top group in pvp, but i am interested to see what others think.