Foresight bugs or WAI?: TFP abilty block and basic, Dooku lightning stun, Sun Fac debuffs, etc.
February 16, 2017 9:26PM
edited February 2017
Post update TIE Pilot continues to be able to Ability Block through zQGJ foresight at the beginning of battles.
Nothing in the ability description gives reason as to why this is happening. No reason this couldn't have been fixed when they fixed his Zader bug...
Nothing in the ability description gives reason as to why this is happening. No reason this couldn't have been fixed when they fixed his Zader bug...
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I know sun fac will still apply crit down through dodge. Looks like inconsistency for when a debuff can and should stick.
I just experienced it in arena less than an hour ago.
Sure, but what's with the layered ability timing seperate from damage? Does his ability not read similar to Boba? Who has it all dodged...
Not just Boba but every other damage dealing debuff I've seen except for TIE Pilots ( Vader and Cad are different...)
It isn't Zader lead that makes TFP remove foresight.
His kit checks for debuffs in order to give him foresight. If a toon has a debuff, they will dodge his "check". I'm not sure if this lowers HIS chance of getting foresight or not but it definitely gets rid of theirs.
Great
I know, just making sure I presented all the facts for which the bug happened...thats all
So this guy is a ridiculous bugged-out counter to a zQGJ....bugs from an easily farmed toon wrecking a zeta ability....but it's Sith month so let's not worry about this...
Well, the funny part is, they literally just checked this to make sure that he wasn't removing turn meter from everyone, but they didn't check to see if any other bugs were present?
What?!? All this Zader refund talk isn't as valid as a zQGJ refund if a plethora of other characters' bugs render your zeta obsolete.
Obsolete to bugs...not better zeta abilities...bugs...
WAI because of how the ability is worded? How about B2 which clearly states his debuffs are applied after damage is applied? B2 whiffs on all of it. So either B2 needs fixed (by which zQGJ is garbage) or TFP needs fixed.
Well part of it is an issue with foresight in general, tons of toons abilities land through foresight. Sun Fac has been that way since day 1.
https://swgoh.gg/characters/b2-super-battle-droid/
B2 specifically states it does Buff Immunity is applied before damage
This will also increase gg tm from tactical manuerving if you use tfp basic on gg.
You took time off or something bruh? @IAmYourFather
Only from the Forums - been so busy with TeamSkunk lately, I haven't had much of a chance to come here
Reading comprehension failure on my part.
Counters my erroneous argument but not why countless toons have debuffs in their abilities and some apply them before or with damage while others apply it after damage...when all are worded similarly.
It is obvious by the bug what is happening: debuff after damage and the damage removes foresight. It is not obvious from the ability wording of TFP, Dooku, or Sun Fac that this is any different from, say, Anakin's or Lumi's abilities ..
I agree that TFP should not remove foresight when he scans the field for debuffs to see how much damage he can do and how fast he can go. The field survey should NOT count as an attack. But I like that it does when I'm battling zQGJ!
I still think there's a bug in there somewhere. Some debuff after stripping foresight, and some don't. They really should include this in the ability description, much like they did with B2
They clearly label, with correct wording, in the ability descriptions which debuffs would be applied after damage, i.e. after foresight is cleared allowing the debuff to stick.
Who would zeta QGJ knowing that despite TFP's AoE damage being dodged, he can still Ability Block Yoda? Or that Dooku would still be able to stun one or two of your guys?
Sure...make Yoda faster is quite easy, we all know that, but that's only for the start of the fight. Mid battle you're getting hosed by either bugs or misinformation...
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/891232/#Comment_891232
Looks like it should be an all or nothing dodge/deflection.
I think the bugs may have entered when they changed Foresight the first time to keep accuracy from reducing it. Regardless, the Foresight bug greatly reduces the effectiveness of zQGJ. I'd imagine if it were a Sith leader ability it would have been fixed by now
Let's obnoxiously demand a refund like those Zader guys.
Thank you!!