Bistans U-Wing ability scouting mission is still being dodged. This was already confirmed as a bug a month or two ago, what's the status? Is it being worked on? Because it's clearly not fixed
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dodge should only apply to any ability applying damage whether physical or special. Any ability that doesn't do damage should only be able to be resisted.
For any ability that does not do damage they need to only apply the potency vs tenacity roll for that. It's as if it's registering it as an attack and if the attack does not hit (dodge) then the debuff is not applied, but this is not the case it should skip that completely and only do the potency vs tenacity.
If that makes any sense
That is what I thought, and always expected, at first till I saw things like Asajj strike fear get dodged and old Ben mid tricks get dodged. Then dev made a comment.
Hiya!
This doesn't appear to be a bug! Count Dooku’s leader ability states that all allies gain increased evasion and Offense Up for 2 turns whenever they successfully evade. Asajj Ventress Strike Fear attack is dodge-able, so any enemy that successfully evades this attack will gain Offense Up. Hope this helps!
Strike fear does no damage.
It appears Bistan's U-wing's ability "Scouting Mission" can be dodged as it is an attack with no damage (same as Scuba quoted previously). Other status effect applications sans damage can be dodged (as listed above), so the U-wing isn't bugged.
dodge should only apply to any ability applying damage whether physical or special. Any ability that doesn't do damage should only be able to be resisted.
For any ability that does not do damage they need to only apply the potency vs tenacity roll for that. It's as if it's registering it as an attack and if the attack does not hit (dodge) then the debuff is not applied, but this is not the case it should skip that completely and only do the potency vs tenacity.
If that makes any sense
That is what I thought, and always expected, at first till I saw things like Asajj strike fear get dodged and old Ben mid tricks get dodged. Then dev made a comment.
Hiya!
This doesn't appear to be a bug! Count Dooku’s leader ability states that all allies gain increased evasion and Offense Up for 2 turns whenever they successfully evade. Asajj Ventress Strike Fear attack is dodge-able, so any enemy that successfully evades this attack will gain Offense Up. Hope this helps!
Strike fear does no damage.
It appears Bistan's U-wing's ability "Scouting Mission" can be dodged as it is an attack with no damage (same as Scuba quoted previously). Other status effect applications sans damage can be dodged (as listed above), so the U-wing isn't bugged.
If you read a couple posts up according to @CG_Kozispoon it should not be able to be dodged. So there is some inconsistency with the statements.
*Peers*
Well the designer heading Ships may be a good final say on this particular issue. I'll see about dragging @CG_CMandellorian in here to give this a looksee.
That was the initial statement, but then the follow up stated it was WAI. I figured the most recent post on the matter was the more accurate one. If it's bugged it affects far more than just Bistan's U-wing.
That was the initial statement, but then the follow up stated it was WAI. I figured the most recent post on the matter was the more accurate one. If it's bugged it affects far more than just Bistan's U-wing.
*Edit* Ooh, the ship master
The intial statement was they couldn't reproduce the dodge because it shouldn't be able to be dodged.
The second statement was while doing another test they were able to see the dodge and it was flagged for review.
And absolutely if a non-attack should not be dodged /deflected then there are many others bugs similar to this.
My bad, I forgot about the first post. I still think the latest post is the most relevant/accurate, but we shall see.
Maybe I am missing something the last post we see is confirmation that bistan target lock was dodged and that it was flagged for review.
Hopefully CG_CMandellorian can give some further info but this is not just a ships question but game wide mechanics.
Edit: I do believe non damaging abilities are designed/intedend to be able to be evaded.
If not why make Bodhi evasion down from spotter ability labeled as can't be evaded.
His basic attack can be dodged while he was stealthed, though still dealing damage, and TIE Fighter will grant its capital ship Turn Meter from its "control thruster" ability.
His attack while stealthed seems not to penetrate all of the target's armor too.
His basic attack can be dodged while he was stealthed, though still dealing damage, and TIE Fighter will grant its capital ship Turn Meter from its "control thruster" ability.
His attack while stealthed seems not to penetrate all of the target's armor too.
I will pay closer attention for these issues as well
Some of the brightest ideas are the hardest to see
Hello! and apologies for not getting back to you guys sooner!
So I may be opening the flood gates here, but in general, a non-damaging ability should not be avoidable. So this is in fact a bug and I'll get it fixed asap!
And as @Mageduckey mentioned earlier it may affect more than Bistan's U-wing, so feel free to send me any other Ships that are affected by this.
Hello! and apologies for not getting back to you guys sooner!
So I may be opening the flood gates here, but in general, a non-damaging ability should not be avoidable. So this is in fact a bug and I'll get it fixed asap!
And as @Mageduckey mentioned earlier it may affect more than Bistan's U-wing, so feel free to send me any other Ships that are affected by this.
Thanks all!
Thanks for the info.
So what about characters that have similar things? Asajj strike fear, dooku/daka secondary stun, old Ben mind tricks. Who do those go too?
Hello! and apologies for not getting back to you guys sooner!
So I may be opening the flood gates here, but in general, a non-damaging ability should not be avoidable. So this is in fact a bug and I'll get it fixed asap!
And as @Mageduckey mentioned earlier it may affect more than Bistan's U-wing, so feel free to send me any other Ships that are affected by this.
Thanks all!
+1 thank you for getting back to us really appreciate it
Some of the brightest ideas are the hardest to see
Was coming in here to report Bistan's u-wing primary attack, while stealthed, is being dodged. I'm pretty sure I saw the CPU hit the U-wing while stealthed the other day. It was in auto combat, and I wasn't focused on it, so I'll keep trying to repeat it.
This would make sense if there was a bug in the check to see if it is stealthed.
@CG_feltz916@CG_CMandellorian
Ignoring dooku applying shock thru FS, that is a different bug, Glad to see some consistency coming. Dooku secondary stun, non damaging attack, applying thru FS
Ok so when Poe taunts, the TM and expose it can't be evaded but it can be resisted...therefore if a sith under mail doesn't lose TM or get an expose they shouldn't gain TM from mauls leadership then?
Ok so when Poe taunts, the TM and expose it can't be evaded but it can be resisted...therefore if a sith under mail doesn't lose TM or get an expose they shouldn't gain TM from mauls leadership then?
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https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/90064/fleet-battles-bistans-target-lock#latest
Screenshots of confirmation:
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It appears Bistan's U-wing's ability "Scouting Mission" can be dodged as it is an attack with no damage (same as Scuba quoted previously). Other status effect applications sans damage can be dodged (as listed above), so the U-wing isn't bugged.
Mostly-Objective Ship-by-Ship Analysis
If you read a couple posts up according to @CG_Kozispoon it should not be able to be dodged. So there is some inconsistency with the statements.
Well the designer heading Ships may be a good final say on this particular issue. I'll see about dragging @CG_CMandellorian in here to give this a looksee.
*Edit* Ooh, the ship master
Mostly-Objective Ship-by-Ship Analysis
The intial statement was they couldn't reproduce the dodge because it shouldn't be able to be dodged.
The second statement was while doing another test they were able to see the dodge and it was flagged for review.
And absolutely if a non-attack should not be dodged /deflected then there are many others bugs similar to this.
Mostly-Objective Ship-by-Ship Analysis
Maybe I am missing something the last post we see is confirmation that bistan target lock was dodged and that it was flagged for review.
Hopefully CG_CMandellorian can give some further info but this is not just a ships question but game wide mechanics.
Edit: I do believe non damaging abilities are designed/intedend to be able to be evaded.
If not why make Bodhi evasion down from spotter ability labeled as can't be evaded.
His attack while stealthed seems not to penetrate all of the target's armor too.
I will pay closer attention for these issues as well
So I may be opening the flood gates here, but in general, a non-damaging ability should not be avoidable. So this is in fact a bug and I'll get it fixed asap!
And as @Mageduckey mentioned earlier it may affect more than Bistan's U-wing, so feel free to send me any other Ships that are affected by this.
Thanks all!
So what about characters that have similar things? Asajj strike fear, dooku/daka secondary stun, old Ben mind tricks. Who do those go too?
+1 thank you for getting back to us really appreciate it
This would make sense if there was a bug in the check to see if it is stealthed.
Ignoring dooku applying shock thru FS, that is a different bug, Glad to see some consistency coming. Dooku secondary stun, non damaging attack, applying thru FS
That is how they are supposed to be working now. I have been wanting to test with asajj dispel. With the change/fix she should be able to dispel FS.
That is who I am to understand it works