Why do Sith gain stealth while Immune to Buffs??? (Zaul lead) Bug

C3POnU
4 posts Member
edited May 2017
Why can Sith gain stealth with a Zaul lead, even if they are hit with buff immunity? When I hit any Sith with FOTP's buff immunity, the Sith still gain stealth (which is considered a buff everywhere else in the game), because of the critical hit. After they go stealth, the buff immunity remains intact (despite having just gained a buff!). (This isn't a case of Zavage cleansing them and gaining stealth...). Can this be fixed?

Replies

  • They are gaining buff immunity *** AFTER *** they gain the stealth buff.

    This is the case for many characters... For example Dooku's special will give Sith stealth on crit, then shock them for one turn...
  • C3POnU
    4 posts Member
    That doesn't seem right. The critical hit and buff immunity should occur simultaneously. They are the product of the same ACTION. The Sith have a RE-ACTION to the critical hit by gaining stealth. The Sith doesn’t receive the critical hit, THEN Sith react, THEN get the negative impact of the critical hit. The logic is flawed, and should be fixed.

    Zaul teams are troublesome enough, without getting favoritism from the programming.
  • Huatimus
    3658 posts Member
    Unfortunately it is an Attack with 2 separate Actions.
    First Action - Damage
    Second Action - Buff Immunity
    So Zaul led Sith can React to the first action by gaining Stealth.

    If however the turn order was:
    First Action - Buff Immunity
    Second Action - Damage
    Then they wouldn't be able to Stealth.
    For example, Maul's Daze is applied as First Action, then Damage applied as Second Action, Counter-attacks would not be able to work since Daze is already inflicted.
  • Kozispoon
    3245 posts EA Staff (retired)
    Hiya!
    This has been flagged as a bug and sent up to our team for further review. Cheers!
    Thank you for your patience 8D Forum Guidelines
  • scuba
    12101 posts Member
    Hiya!
    This has been flagged as a bug and sent up to our team for further review. Cheers!

    Does this mean the order of operations is finally going to be fixed?!?
  • Zephyrus
    330 posts Member
    Hiya!
    This has been flagged as a bug and sent up to our team for further review. Cheers!

    Yeehaw! Hope they make a change
  • Creepioo
    598 posts Member
    @Huatimus

    But if you read the description Damage and Buff Immunity. So Buff immunity is part of the attack. It doesn't say deal Damage and then inflict buff immunity. Same for Maul they are 1 attack
  • scuba
    12101 posts Member
    Creepioo wrote: »
    Huatimus

    But if you read the description Damage and Buff Immunity. So Buff immunity is part of the attack. It doesn't say deal Damage and then inflict buff immunity. Same for Maul they are 1 attack

    However how @Huatimus described it is what is happening.
    There is an order of operations for every attack in the game, this is how it is programmed.

    JKA, Cassian, FOTP , NS Intiate are currently programmed to apply damage before buff immunity

    ISC, B2, TFP are currently programmed to apply buff immunit after damage.

    The other part is that the opponent responds as soon as they get damaged applied or debuff/buff applied if they have a uniquie/lead ability that is affected by damage or application of buffs/debuffs

    In this case order of operations happens like this

    1. FOTP attacks
    2. Damage is a crit attack, opponent responds in this case crit hit to sith means stealth
    3. FOTP applies buff immunity
    4. Now have a sith that is stealth-ed and has buff immunity
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