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Fulcrum/Ashoka zeta, yay or nay?

WompWompRat
WompWompRat
1833 posts Member
Does it really make Whirlwind that much better?
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  • slickdealer
    slickdealer
    1801 posts Member
    The cooldown decrease is mandatory.

    Otherwise meditate and whirlwind cooldowns do not match.
  • RJ__Brando
    RJ__Brando
    1500 posts Moderator
    slickdealer wrote: »
    The cooldown decrease is mandatory.

    Otherwise meditate and whirlwind cooldowns do not match.

    100% on point.

    If you're planning on using her, the zeta is mandatory IMO
  • CerealKiller
    CerealKiller
    604 posts Member
    she don't work without the zeta, it's kinda yeeey if you use her
  • xNine
    xNine
    82 posts Member
    I'm more curious about the -50% armor reduction. What difference in damage will there be? I don't know the equation that factors in armor to actual damage, but in actual game play what have people seen?
  • Josh_K
    Josh_K
    1150 posts Member
    On tanks its very significant, remember she also has 44 flat armor pen.

    As an example a 36% physical DR tank with half armor gone goes to about 20% DR. Add in 44 flat armor pen and its about 18%.

    So 64% non mitigated to 82% non mitigated is about a 28% increase in damage.

    If you just factor the zeta impact it is roughly a 24% increase in damage. On squishies it is much less probably a 15% increase.
  • Riffinator
    Riffinator
    2586 posts Member
    I mean personally I would make her FATz that is if I had the zeta mats
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  • KeyMan64x
    KeyMan64x
    794 posts Member
    Fulcrum Ahsoka Tano is nearly useless against mixed faction teams that use Zarriss. Kinda funny, unless you spent money on Ahsoka and or dropped a Zeta on her.
  • starplatinum
    starplatinum
    170 posts Member
    KeyMan64x wrote: »
    Fulcrum Ahsoka Tano is nearly useless against mixed faction teams that use Zarriss. Kinda funny, unless you spent money on Ahsoka and or dropped a Zeta on her.

    Are there shards where zariss is used in top arena? I don't remember seeing her in mine
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  • V1p3rdyn4sty
    V1p3rdyn4sty
    2674 posts Member
    Josh_K wrote: »
    On tanks its very significant, remember she also has 44 flat armor pen.

    As an example a 36% physical DR tank with half armor gone goes to about 20% DR. Add in 44 flat armor pen and its about 18%.

    So 64% non mitigated to 82% non mitigated is about a 28% increase in damage.

    If you just factor the zeta impact it is roughly a 24% increase in damage. On squishies it is much less probably a 15% increase.

    ^^^^^
  • vincentlondon
    vincentlondon
    4527 posts Member
    Nay
  • tRRRey
    tRRRey
    2782 posts Member
    starplatinum wrote: »
    KeyMan64x wrote: »
    Fulcrum Ahsoka Tano is nearly useless against mixed faction teams that use Zarriss. Kinda funny, unless you spent money on Ahsoka and or dropped a Zeta on her.

    Are there shards where zariss is used in top arena? I don't remember seeing her in mine

    Plenty of shards use her or will bring her back if FATz appears in their arena
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  • Bobby777
    Bobby777
    614 posts Member
    You definitely need the zeta. Based on the times I used her I noticed that she misses frequently on her whirlwind ability.
  • RacerDejak
    RacerDejak
    3203 posts Member
    We should build team around her, otherwise she's useless. It think i have cheap version of her without need to build team around with nasty damage and more tanky : Zylo :smiley:
  • Th3DarKn1ght
    Th3DarKn1ght
    52 posts Member
    @RacerDejak if you run gk with her, and use his cleanse then you have the potential for many different buffs. For example, you don't need someone that can apply crit chance up (Leia) if you're fighting sunfac. With him, I've gotten about 9 buffs probably with FAT's meditate.
  • RivetingAlucard
    RivetingAlucard
    225 posts Member
    zarris doesnt counter her. when zarris is used gk is used and gk counters the zarris countering the fulcrum lol.

    but yes its mandatory and awesome
  • SnakesOnAPlane
    SnakesOnAPlane
    4363 posts Member
    RJ__Brando wrote: »
    slickdealer wrote: »
    The cooldown decrease is mandatory.

    Otherwise meditate and whirlwind cooldowns do not match.

    100% on point.

    If you're planning on using her, the zeta is mandatory IMO

    Couldn't agree more. She's worthless without it.

    SnakesOnAPlane
  • Crazylazyguy
    Crazylazyguy
    1786 posts Member
    Yes, I just Zeta'd her yesterday and she is 100x better. The not being able to evade part is just huge when playing against Zaul or any other team for that matter. Evading 7-8 attacks even if they are not crits just su ***.

    Less cooldown and -50% armor are just making it that much better.
  • goldenarmadi110
    goldenarmadi110
    271 posts Member
    starplatinum wrote: »

    Are there shards where zariss is used in top arena? I don't remember seeing her in mine

    The top of my shard all use the std triple cleanse except sub GK to leader and zBarris instead of Rex.

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