Speed Tiers

Hawk7915
73 posts Member
edited January 2016
Based on the data from SWGOH Cantina and the excellent guide by team instinct, I thought it would be helpful to have all the characters separated into tiers based on when they will get to act. This will give a quick, easy way to glance at who will go in what order, all things being equal.

As a note, how it will work is...

1) In round 1, all things being equal, a character in a higher speed tier will act before someone in a lower tier.

2) If two or more characters are in the same tier, the game determines who acts first at random.

3) Speed buffs are NOT considered in round one at this time (I.E., Qui Gon Jinn or Lobot's leader skill).

4) All tiers are sorted with the "fastest" within the tier first (max speed in parentheses), based on maximum stats (Level 70, best gear at this time, maxed abilities, 7 stars). Again, being fastest within your tier does not matter turn 1, as its all random, but matters as battle goes on since the faster character will start acting before other characters in round 2, 3, and beyond. It depends on the character at what point they get undisputed control of the initiative - for instance, Dooku is always going to be first in round 2 barring turn meter manipulation, but Sid and Leia will still be matched and have their order determined randomly. These calculations would be tedious and are outside the scope of the guide...for now.

5) That being said, as a rule of thumb considering most high-level fights are over after 4-5 "actions" or 26-32 "turns" of filling the speed meter, consider that it takes a difference in speed of 5 or more for characters within a tier to start breaking away from one another in an appreciable, predictable way.

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TIER 1: The Fastest Men and Women Alive:
  1. Count Dooku (161)
  2. Darth Sidious (153)
  3. Princess Leia (152)
  4. Geonosian Soldier (149)
  5. Nute Gunray (144)
  6. Hoth Rebel Scout (143)
  7. Poe Dameron (143)
  8. Rey (143)

TIER 2: The Fast and the Furious
  1. Poggle the Lesser (142)
  2. Nightsister Acolyte (139)
  3. URoRRuR'R'R (139)
  4. Qui-Gon Jinn (137)
  5. First Order Officer (137)
  6. Jedi Knight Anakin (137)
  7. Old Daka (136)
  8. Dathcha (131)
  9. Ugnaught (130)
  10. Eeth Koth (128)
  11. Ewok Scout (127)
  12. Mob Enforcer (126)
  13. General Veers (125)

TIER 3: Slow and Steady...
  1. Jawa (124)
  2. Captain Phasma (121)
  3. Stormtrooper Han (121)
  4. Tusken Raider (121)
  5. Resistance Trooper (121)
  6. Plo Koon (120)
  7. Darth Vader (119)
  8. Ima-Gun Di (119)
  9. Teebo (118)
  10. Kit Fisto (118)
  11. Luminara Unduli (118)
  12. IG-88 (118)
  13. Stormtrooper-1(118)
  14. Savage Opress (117)
  15. Aayla Secura (117)
  16. First Order TIE Pilot (117)
  17. Greedo (117)
  18. Kylo Ren (116)
  19. IG-86 Sentinel Droid (116)
  20. CT-5555 Fives (115)
  21. Resistance Pilot (115)
  22. Barriss Offee (114)
  23. Ewok Elder (114)
  24. Luke Skywalker (114)
  25. Admiral Ackbar (113)
  26. Jedi Consular (113)
  27. Obi-Wan Kenobi (Old Ben) (112)
  28. Nightsister Initiate (112)

TIER 4: The Tortoise Wins Eventually, Right?
  1. First Order Stormtrooper (111)
  2. Royal Guard (110)
  3. Lando Calrissian (110)
  4. Mace Windu (109)
  5. Talia (109)
  6. Biggs Darklighter (108)
  7. Finn (107)
  8. Cad Bane (107)
  9. Coruscant Underworld Police (106)
  10. Lobot (102)
  11. Grand Moff Tarkin (102)
  12. Boba Fett (101)
  13. Clone Sergeant - Phase 1(101)
  14. Clone Wars Chewbacca (100)

TIER 5: Snail Speed
  1. Hoth Rebel Soldier (98)
  2. Snowtrooper (98)
  3. HK-47 (97)
  4. Darth Maul (94)
  5. IG-100 MagnaGuard (93)
  6. Ahsoka Tano (93)

TIER 6: SO...SLOW...
  1. Jedi Knight Guardian (90)
  2. Asajj Ventress (86)

Replies

  • Thanks for the insight. I was hoping teaminstinct had a list like this on their site but couldn't find any. Now if only someone will post a list/tier ability upgrades at what level that'd be awesome!
  • So Night Sister Acolyte with Asajj leader boost = 165 speed. Dooku natural 161, QJG with his own leader boost 160. Top 3 fastest characters in the game?
    Character Name: Nofaultius
  • This guide is sort of useless now, since speed is calculated differently and the faster character always goes first, but seeing a list of fastest heroes may still prove helpful.
    So Night Sister Acolyte with Asajj leader boost = 165 speed. Dooku natural 161, QJG with his own leader boost 160. Top 3 fastest characters in the game?

    Yoda supposedly is 165 naturally once fully leveled, meaning he is fastest unboosted and fastest boosted by QGJ (going up to 188). You also have to consider that Old Daka with Asajj leading goes to 162, and rebel teams can use Ackbar as a leader to push Leia to 175 and Hoth Rebel Scout to 166. So a top ten, with buffs and ignoring Yoda until we get a confirmed speed, appears to be...

    1. Leia (Ackbar Lead): 175
    2. Hoth Rebel Scout (Ackbar Lead): 166
    3. Night Sister Acolyte (Asajj lead): 165
    4. Old Daka (Asajj lead): 162
    5. Count Dooku: 161
    6. QGJ (leading): 160
    7. Anakin (QGJ lead): 160
    8. Nute Gunray (Lando lead): 157
    9. Darth Sidious: 153
    10. Eeth Koth (QGJ Lead): 151

    @bigspring78 has a great table here summarizing the new speed tiers with buffs, although he still has Mr. Dameron listed at 143 base.
  • Here are some of the leaders that I found with their corresponding speed boosts. Let me know if I forgot any.
    Lobot +17 for Droids
    Ackbar +15 for rebels
    Asajj +15 for nightsisters
    Grand Muff diver +10 for empire
    QGJ +10 for Jedi
    Lando +7 for scoundrels
  • Flave50
    33 posts Member
    I think you got the nightsisters mixed up. Isn't Initiate faster than Acolyte?
  • Hawk7915 wrote: »
    This guide is sort of useless now, since speed is calculated differently and the faster character always goes first, but seeing a list of fastest heroes may still prove helpful.
    So Night Sister Acolyte with Asajj leader boost = 165 speed. Dooku natural 161, QJG with his own leader boost 160. Top 3 fastest characters in the game?

    Yoda supposedly is 165 naturally once fully leveled, meaning he is fastest unboosted and fastest boosted by QGJ (going up to 188). You also have to consider that Old Daka with Asajj leading goes to 162, and rebel teams can use Ackbar as a leader to push Leia to 175 and Hoth Rebel Scout to 166. So a top ten, with buffs and ignoring Yoda until we get a confirmed speed, appears to be...

    1. Leia (Ackbar Lead): 175
    2. Hoth Rebel Scout (Ackbar Lead): 166
    3. Night Sister Acolyte (Asajj lead): 165
    4. Old Daka (Asajj lead): 162
    5. Count Dooku: 161
    6. QGJ (leading): 160
    7. Anakin (QGJ lead): 160
    8. Nute Gunray (Lando lead): 157
    9. Darth Sidious: 153
    10. Eeth Koth (QGJ Lead): 151

    @bigspring78 has a great table here summarizing the new speed tiers with buffs, although he still has Mr. Dameron listed at 143 base.

    Yoda fully boosted to this current date is only 151. My Yoda is 7*, LvL 70, and top geared.
    - HumbleSage
    "To me, there is no light or dark side to The Force. There's just the Force and I'll wield it how I see fit."
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