It's impossible to say for sure. We've all seen it many times, this or that toon will be a "game changer" or "OP" or the next "Meta"... and we've been let down or disappointed many times. Time, and actual play, will tell...
The best use of his fracture is to neutralize an autotaunt while you pick off the weaker toons he's protecting. AI will be forced to target a taunt, then it will fracture him, and PROCEED AS PLANNED! I mean it might not be as bad as people think on defense, and it will wreck people on offense.
It's impossible to say for sure. We've all seen it many times, this or that toon will be a "game changer" or "OP" or the next "Meta"... and we've been let down or disappointed many times. Time, and actual play, will tell...
Some toons suck on defense and never use the right ability when they should, or avoid an ability until a situation where your team is going to lose anyway.
Thrawn is a special kind of toon that may actually make you whole team suck on defense.
Judge for yourself, go check out EA Play footage, the whole team uses that "new shiny button" even when they are not debuffed..... Basically he makes you whole team waste a turn every 3 turns....
I need to watch with more intent but it was pointed out to me and I did see it in one battle, but it's auto on 4x so hard to see what each toon does. I ask others to help examine this.
Some toons suck on defense and never use the right ability when they should, or avoid an ability until a situation where your team is going to lose anyway.
Thrawn is a special kind of toon that may actually make you whole team suck on defense.
Judge for yourself, go check out EA Play footage, the whole team uses that "new shiny button" even when they are not debuffed..... Basically he makes you whole team waste a turn every 3 turns....
I need to watch with more intent but it was pointed out to me and I did see it in one battle, but it's auto on 4x so hard to see what each toon does. I ask others to help examine this.
Good point. If it does work this way we can disregard him as a leader
The best use of his fracture is to neutralize an autotaunt while you pick off the weaker toons he's protecting. AI will be forced to target a taunt, then it will fracture him, and PROCEED AS PLANNED! I mean it might not be as bad as people think on defense, and it will wreck people on offense.
Pretty much this. Thrawn looks like a BAMF. I foresee great things in his future. People will be in denial though and say "but I can still win on offense". It will be true but have fun climbing 20 spots each day though. He will probably slot into the triple cleanse and keep those squads viable.
The best use of his fracture is to neutralize an autotaunt while you pick off the weaker toons he's protecting. AI will be forced to target a taunt, then it will fracture him, and PROCEED AS PLANNED! I mean it might not be as bad as people think on defense, and it will wreck people on offense.
Pretty much this. Thrawn looks like a BAMF. I foresee great things in his future. People will be in denial though and say "but I can still win on offense". It will be true but have fun climbing 20 spots each day though. He will probably slot into the triple cleanse and keep those squads viable.
So it becomes a 4 on 4 fight with both bazes being fractured. Sounds pretty exciting.
What I predict is that a Thrawn team emerges to neutralize the triple cleanse, one of the existing teams counters thrawn so they start moving up in position, triple cleans comes back to take care of Thrawn counter, rinse and repeat.
Instead of a flat meta, it becomes cyclic. And now instead of a single team to maintain consistent rank, you now need >3.
I don't think he'll be that great on defense. Against Chaze teams he'll basically just remove Baze from the battle but then Thrawn won't be doing anything himself either (besides his Zeta giving Empire allies 15% TM when using specials) since Chaze teams usually don't have many AOEs so Thrawn won't be able to counter. We'll also have to see if characters will waste turns dispelling 1 or 2 minor debuffs.
He'll be good on offense, but there are other teams that are as well (Resistance, Zader, etc.).
I think he'll be viable for whales but won't be much better if at all than Chaze teams so most players won't bother to make the switch.
Dominate is excessive, but given his ability to shut down people's pre-taunts given his high speed, and often Baze is that pre-taunt and people rely on him to also knock down opponent taunts, I think his impact will be felt more than ATF since it directly addresses a major component of the current elite meta.
So Thrawn fractures Baze, who will be taunting at the start of the match.
Oops, there's GK now taunting away, regaining taunt once cleansed, and Thrawn will be slow as heck during the fracture period not doing anything. He's just gimping one character and becoming a snail.
I really don't like how Thrawn looks on paper. My gut tells me a lot of people will be sorry for throwing all that gear and credits at Phoenix for this. I hope I'm wrong.
id like to point out he is terrible on D with EMPIRE. because he gives empire that personal dispel ability and thats all they will use. but he only gives it to empire. if you have him with non empire for defense he wont be that bad. and if r2 smokescreen targets him? gg. stuns for everyone lol
How much do you have to spend in order to get Phoenix Squadron viable for this?
Between 0 and 1500 USD depending on:
-How many Phoenix squadron shards you have now
-Whether you want to unlock Thrawn at 5* or max him at 7*
-How hard the event is and whether it requires gear 7, 8 or 9+ toons
So Thrawn fractures Baze, who will be taunting at the start of the match.
Oops, there's GK now taunting away, regaining taunt once cleansed, and Thrawn will be slow as heck during the fracture period not doing anything. He's just gimping one character and becoming a snail.
I really don't like how Thrawn looks on paper. My gut tells me a lot of people will be sorry for throwing all that gear and credits at Phoenix for this. I hope I'm wrong.
Yep, this is what I'm thinking. Baze is never alone and most of the time is followed by GK. Baze will be neutralized, so is Thrawn. It'll be a 4 to 4 battle. He'll be good but not META changer. And maybe he'll be integrated in some GK + Chaze teams.
I think the best use of fracture against the traditional teams is to use it on either Chirrut or GK, not Baze. It'll remove a cleanser from the equation.
In an Empire team, his best usage imo will be with a Krennic lead, which AB when an enemy is debuffed.
So Thrawn fractures Baze, who will be taunting at the start of the match.
Oops, there's GK now taunting away, regaining taunt once cleansed, and Thrawn will be slow as heck during the fracture period not doing anything. He's just gimping one character and becoming a snail.
I really don't like how Thrawn looks on paper. My gut tells me a lot of people will be sorry for throwing all that gear and credits at Phoenix for this. I hope I'm wrong.
You can't cleanse fracture... Learn to read. Also, his speed is pretty high up there, 133 to start. I don't think he will ever be a snail. As lead with Vader and Gar, Wedge and Biggs, he will lock some one down just long enough for Biggs to empty their health and move onto another.
Thrawn is going to be a bust I think . I'm a huge Sith Guy,I hate the Empire lol a bunch of weak old **** lol but Thrawn was written so good it's hard not to like him . If he were a Sith omg the rebellion would've never made it out of Scarrif lol but honestly no character has been OP since DN imo Fulcrum is a cool toon but not a game changer. R2 is pretty good but honestly the best legendary character is EP hands Down . R2 put a slow on the Zaul meta withRex of course but I'm number 1 in my shard with a zDN L . And I'm on a December 2015 shard with whales and I'm F2p
Watching the EA play vids Thrawn looked ok against subpar arena teams . TFP Death Trooper snow trooper EP what Empire team really scares you or is OP ???? Veers rework with a new tag and all storm troopers get shared unique bonus when paired but not one veers team in top 100 in arena I bet . Tarkin Rework no big deal right . Another reworked Empire character that's not in top 100 in arena . Come on a zQGJ GK Ezra R2 JKA kill any of those teams Thrawn included very easily . I'm just disappointed
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That's all I can say about that.
Ok but make your bet guy! :P
Some toons suck on defense and never use the right ability when they should, or avoid an ability until a situation where your team is going to lose anyway.
Thrawn is a special kind of toon that may actually make you whole team suck on defense.
Judge for yourself, go check out EA Play footage, the whole team uses that "new shiny button" even when they are not debuffed..... Basically he makes you whole team waste a turn every 3 turns....
I need to watch with more intent but it was pointed out to me and I did see it in one battle, but it's auto on 4x so hard to see what each toon does. I ask others to help examine this.
Good point. If it does work this way we can disregard him as a leader
- In rebels thrawn is shown as an evil entity Season 4 trailer starts with Hera syring EVIL SO TERRIBLE it tried to black out the stars
- In Though Imperial Eyes Thrawns judgement on arts made him conclude Kallus was rebel spy fulcrum
- In Zero Hour Thrawns abilites almost destroyed the rebels fleet on Atollon.
- In Zero Hour Thrawn played Kallus into revealing rebels location
This shows thrawn is the rebels Bogeyman sort of a thing and instead of pleasing empire a rebel devestator would increase his value.Pretty much this. Thrawn looks like a BAMF. I foresee great things in his future. People will be in denial though and say "but I can still win on offense". It will be true but have fun climbing 20 spots each day though. He will probably slot into the triple cleanse and keep those squads viable.
So it becomes a 4 on 4 fight with both bazes being fractured. Sounds pretty exciting.
What I predict is that a Thrawn team emerges to neutralize the triple cleanse, one of the existing teams counters thrawn so they start moving up in position, triple cleans comes back to take care of Thrawn counter, rinse and repeat.
Instead of a flat meta, it becomes cyclic. And now instead of a single team to maintain consistent rank, you now need >3.
He'll be good on offense, but there are other teams that are as well (Resistance, Zader, etc.).
I think he'll be viable for whales but won't be much better if at all than Chaze teams so most players won't bother to make the switch.
Highly considering his leader zeta but will wait and see his performance before further evaluating
Oops, there's GK now taunting away, regaining taunt once cleansed, and Thrawn will be slow as heck during the fracture period not doing anything. He's just gimping one character and becoming a snail.
I really don't like how Thrawn looks on paper. My gut tells me a lot of people will be sorry for throwing all that gear and credits at Phoenix for this. I hope I'm wrong.
Yes, hope CG not make him OP on defense.
You might see Rex Triple Cleanse > (Z)Maul > Tarkin/Thrawn > Rex Triple Cleanse.
You could also of course slot him into a Rex team instead of under a Tarkin lead, not sure if you pull out DN or GK for him though.
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Between 0 and 1500 USD depending on:
-How many Phoenix squadron shards you have now
-Whether you want to unlock Thrawn at 5* or max him at 7*
-How hard the event is and whether it requires gear 7, 8 or 9+ toons
Yep, this is what I'm thinking. Baze is never alone and most of the time is followed by GK. Baze will be neutralized, so is Thrawn. It'll be a 4 to 4 battle. He'll be good but not META changer. And maybe he'll be integrated in some GK + Chaze teams.
I think the best use of fracture against the traditional teams is to use it on either Chirrut or GK, not Baze. It'll remove a cleanser from the equation.
In an Empire team, his best usage imo will be with a Krennic lead, which AB when an enemy is debuffed.
Looks like an average toon and rightly so.. "legendary character" hmm.... no thanks. EP and R2 are legendary Thrawn isn't close.
Just to slap faces of most of the thrawn fanboys
You can't cleanse fracture... Learn to read. Also, his speed is pretty high up there, 133 to start. I don't think he will ever be a snail. As lead with Vader and Gar, Wedge and Biggs, he will lock some one down just long enough for Biggs to empty their health and move onto another.