Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love the rework. The only thing I would say I would’ve liked to see is an addition to a boss version of shock, like there is with Thrawn’s fracture. Palp right now isn’t really useful against a lot of the raid components.
Still seems pretty meh.. that nerf to his "let the hate flow" is just ridiculous, as is the max prot gain save for Krennic lead (would be OP AF is they didnt make him unable to crit via the hoss unique....)
Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love the rework. The only thing I would say I would’ve liked to see is an addition to a boss version of shock, like there is with Thrawn’s fracture. Palp right now isn’t really useful against a lot of the raid components.
Powercreep has trivialized both raids anyway. He can fit in well for damage in a zader team in rancour.
There's already Palpatine teams that can solo phase 3 haat before this.
Not for one minute begrudging the darksiders their time in the light (you see what I did there haha) but seriously what about the Jedi.
For a faction who where the the guardians of peace and heroes of the galaxy for thousands of years they are very....aenemic.
GM Yodas rework should speffingtacular. Looking forward to it
While I agree that some Jedi reworks are necessary (like Vader GMY really is crying out for a unique) the fact even before this empire and Sith were the best two dark side factions means that they really needed this. Jedi could do with a rework but there are many other light side teams that can do a job for you in various aspects of the game.
A Jedi rework would be a good thing but it's not needed the same way this was.
Hiya, Nabbed a couple of questions from both character strategy thread for our team to answer. I'll update with more when needed.
Q: Palpatine. Did his Let the Hate Flow lose the ability to refresh the Shock duration on enemies?
Answer: Yes, Let the Hate Flow no longer refreshes Shock. This was done because of balance reasons regarding the interplay with the Zeta ability of his leader, "Crackling Doom", which grants Palpatine +5% Max Protection each time he inflicts shock and lasts until the end of the encounter.
Sorry if it’s already been asked but does the change to shock apply to Dooku’s shock as well?
What change to shock?
Oh, maybe I have forgotten what shock was, but I thought since it was in green it was changed. I thought that the wording has changed and it now says can't gain health (as opposed to immune to healing effects), which I was assuming means it will prevent players from gaining health from health equalization.
Sorry if it’s already been asked but does the change to shock apply to Dooku’s shock as well?
What change to shock?
Oh, maybe I have forgotten what shock was, but I thought since it was in green it was changed. I thought that the wording has changed and it now says can't gain health (as opposed to immune to healing effects), which I was assuming means it will prevent players from gaining health from health equalization.
Previously Palpatine's ability didn't define shock but the definition of shock is the same as it was previously.
Sorry if it’s already been asked but does the change to shock apply to Dooku’s shock as well?
What change to shock?
Oh, maybe I have forgotten what shock was, but I thought since it was in green it was changed. I thought that the wording has changed and it now says can't gain health (as opposed to immune to healing effects), which I was assuming means it will prevent players from gaining health from health equalization.
Previously Palpatine's ability didn't define shock but the definition of shock is the same as it was previously.
Where is shock defined at the moment? Are we sure the wording hasn't changed?
Also, please please please, hire or contract a technical writer for future character releases and reworks. It would help to circumvent the pages of clarification questions that get asked, and generally not answered, with every update.
Sorry if it’s already been asked but does the change to shock apply to Dooku’s shock as well?
What change to shock?
Oh, maybe I have forgotten what shock was, but I thought since it was in green it was changed. I thought that the wording has changed and it now says can't gain health (as opposed to immune to healing effects), which I was assuming means it will prevent players from gaining health from health equalization.
Previously Palpatine's ability didn't define shock but the definition of shock is the same as it was previously.
Where is shock defined at the moment? Are we sure the wording hasn't changed?
No where other than selecting someone who is shocked.
Sorry if it’s already been asked but does the change to shock apply to Dooku’s shock as well?
What change to shock?
Oh, maybe I have forgotten what shock was, but I thought since it was in green it was changed. I thought that the wording has changed and it now says can't gain health (as opposed to immune to healing effects), which I was assuming means it will prevent players from gaining health from health equalization.
Previously Palpatine's ability didn't define shock but the definition of shock is the same as it was previously.
Where is shock defined at the moment? Are we sure the wording hasn't changed?
No where other than selecting someone who is shocked.
Yep... you can touch-and-hold the buffs/defuffs during a battle to read their descriptions.
These updates are awesome! I honestly didn't think it would be possible to dethrone CLS without the release of a newer OP character. DS looks like it's gonna be fun AND viable for a while!
Is there any change in Stats for Papa Palp? I know Kozi said that Vader had some increased base damage on his Basic and Culling Blade so just wondering
These updates are awesome! I honestly didn't think it would be possible to dethrone CLS without the release of a newer OP character. DS looks like it's gonna be fun AND viable for a while!
In case you didn't notice, and are actually being serious (I'm honestly not really sure)... CLS was already dethroned by a new OP character: Rey. And neither Vader's nor EP's reworks have much direct counter to Resistance, only Rebels and Jedi.
These updates are awesome! I honestly didn't think it would be possible to dethrone CLS without the release of a newer OP character. DS looks like it's gonna be fun AND viable for a while!
In case you didn't notice, and are actually being serious (I'm honestly not really sure)... CLS was already dethroned by a new OP character: Rey. And neither Vader's nor EP's reworks have much direct counter to Resistance, only Rebels and Jedi.
Yeah, I see nothing here that makes me think there is an arena impact. These two just got better for TW, which is great, but this isn’t earth shattering I don’t think (we said the same thing about JTR though).
These updates are awesome! I honestly didn't think it would be possible to dethrone CLS without the release of a newer OP character. DS looks like it's gonna be fun AND viable for a while!
In case you didn't notice, and are actually being serious (I'm honestly not really sure)... CLS was already dethroned by a new OP character: Rey. And neither Vader's nor EP's reworks have much direct counter to Resistance, only Rebels and Jedi.
They are probably saving the resistance counter for the release of Snoke
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And at the beginning of their turn they suddenly drop to 1 HP.
or their allies turn.
It used to deal special damage at the end of Palps turn. It now does 20% of max health (presumably more damage) at the start of their turn.
at the start of each enemy turn, they take damage equal to 20% of their Max Health
Not just their own turn, but each enemy turn.
I think you are mistaken.
At the start of "each enemy" turn, "they take damage" means "each enemy" takes damage at the start of his turn.
I guess it's open for interpretation. The way you read it would make it a whole lot less OP, so you're probably right.
I look forward to getting trashed by DS teams in Arena, but that is only how it should be against such legendary opponents.
For a faction who where the the guardians of peace and heroes of the galaxy for thousands of years they are very....aenemic.
GM Yodas rework should speffingtacular. Looking forward to it
Powercreep has trivialized both raids anyway. He can fit in well for damage in a zader team in rancour.
There's already Palpatine teams that can solo phase 3 haat before this.
While I agree that some Jedi reworks are necessary (like Vader GMY really is crying out for a unique) the fact even before this empire and Sith were the best two dark side factions means that they really needed this. Jedi could do with a rework but there are many other light side teams that can do a job for you in various aspects of the game.
A Jedi rework would be a good thing but it's not needed the same way this was.
Q: Palpatine. Did his Let the Hate Flow lose the ability to refresh the Shock duration on enemies?
What change to shock?
Oh, maybe I have forgotten what shock was, but I thought since it was in green it was changed. I thought that the wording has changed and it now says can't gain health (as opposed to immune to healing effects), which I was assuming means it will prevent players from gaining health from health equalization.
Previously Palpatine's ability didn't define shock but the definition of shock is the same as it was previously.
Where is shock defined at the moment? Are we sure the wording hasn't changed?
Also, please please please, hire or contract a technical writer for future character releases and reworks. It would help to circumvent the pages of clarification questions that get asked, and generally not answered, with every update.
No where other than selecting someone who is shocked.
Yep... you can touch-and-hold the buffs/defuffs during a battle to read their descriptions.
In case you didn't notice, and are actually being serious (I'm honestly not really sure)... CLS was already dethroned by a new OP character: Rey. And neither Vader's nor EP's reworks have much direct counter to Resistance, only Rebels and Jedi.
Yeah, I see nothing here that makes me think there is an arena impact. These two just got better for TW, which is great, but this isn’t earth shattering I don’t think (we said the same thing about JTR though).
They are probably saving the resistance counter for the release of Snoke