Sith Raid Reward Rollback - 4/17/18 [MEGA]

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  • Yoda comes tomorrow, probably not BH
  • Kyno
    17430 posts Moderator
    Kyno wrote: »
    Hawkeye wrote: »
    Oh awesome the lower tiers go back to the same less than stellar rewards. Oh well. I liked the change for the lower tiers. There was an incentive to do this raid. This rollback is great for those who do heroic, but back to the dumping grounds for the rest of us. The lower tiers are not worth the effort for what we got at the beginning. Disappointing for those guilds not able to do the heroic tier.

    This is a temporary move so they can roll this out in a better fashion in the future. raid reward changes are going to happen. as it says.

    The same could be said about the Heroic reward changes. It didn't stop complaints then and shouldn't be used to dismiss them now.

    thats not true. the original change was the base that was going to be built on with the new gear and such, and was meant to be what they envisioned.

    this is a change back so that they can fully and properly explain and examine the change they are going to roll out (i believe the more important part about this is explain, i hope they work that part out)

    these are 2 very different situations. I hope you can see that.
  • Summary: completely roll back, everyone will get two whole pieces of g12
  • The cries of whales and krakens are greater than those of dolphins, minnows, and FTP.

    I agree. Just disappointed, but understand why it has to be done

  • Kyno wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Hawkeye wrote: »
    Oh awesome the lower tiers go back to the same less than stellar rewards. Oh well. I liked the change for the lower tiers. There was an incentive to do this raid. This rollback is great for those who do heroic, but back to the dumping grounds for the rest of us. The lower tiers are not worth the effort for what we got at the beginning. Disappointing for those guilds not able to do the heroic tier.

    This is a temporary move so they can roll this out in a better fashion in the future. raid reward changes are going to happen. as it says.

    The same could be said about the Heroic reward changes. It didn't stop complaints then and shouldn't be used to dismiss them now.

    thats not true. the original change was the base that was going to be built on with the new gear and such, and was meant to be what they envisioned.

    this is a change back so that they can fully and properly explain and examine the change they are going to roll out (i believe the more important part about this is explain, i hope they work that part out)

    these are 2 very different situations. I hope you can see that.

    There's no reason to be condescending to people. It's pure hypocrisy for a group that just spent weeks complaining about changes to now say it's not cool to complain and wait for the next set of changes to take effect. Either way some people got screwed and if one set can be disgruntled, the other shouldn't be stifled either.
  • Thank you for listening to the feedback.
  • WarGuy101 wrote: »
    "Level 85 and above"?

    glad other people noticed this as well
  • Hawkeye wrote: »
    The cries of whales and krakens are greater than those of dolphins, minnows, and FTP.

    I agree. Just disappointed, but understand why it has to be done

    Loyal to the paycheck
  • APX_919
    1639 posts Member
    Regarding the level 85 and above comment, I recall some tiers of challenges used to say seven star or greater characters needed. May be a mere grammatical error.

    Or it may mean level increase coming...tomorrow!
    "Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen...mostly"
  • I_WANT_YODA
    437 posts Member
    edited April 18
    I really, really, really want some clone wars Chewie shards also. Thanks!

    In seriousness though, great decision. Looking forward to the BH improvements.
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    Still waiting on that edit forum profile setting so I can change my name...
  • ganelon341
    2 posts Member
    edited April 18
    Great. How about

    was: (....)
    gonna change on ddd: (.....)
    (explanation)

    This update announcement was the most difficult to understand so far.
  • Kyno
    17430 posts Moderator
    ganelon341 wrote: »
    Great. How about

    was: (....)
    gonna change on ddd: (.....)
    (explanation)

    This update announcement was the most difficult to understand yet.

    its going back as if there was no update to raid rewards @ganelon341
  • Kyno wrote: »
    ganelon341 wrote: »
    Great. How about

    was: (....)
    gonna change on ddd: (.....)
    (explanation)

    This update announcement was the most difficult to understand yet.

    its going back as if there was no update to raid rewards @ganelon341

    But we're those rewards at all? Just symbolic pieces of gear for such time fighting those siths. My whole guild is disappointed with the raid. We are treating it as a must.
  • Ploosh
    565 posts Member
    Yeah, while this is obviously a good decision for Heroic people, as well as top contributors to t4-6, I'm curious if anything is gonna be done for t4-6 people? Once the rewards got flattened, we started doing t4, cuz there was zero motivation to finish raids, even tho we're capable of t6. Dare we hope for an actual increase in rewards for lower tier people once May hits?
  • Ikey
    42 posts Member
    When it comes to revisiting the rewards in May, I pray this doesn't happen all over again. I'll happily take challenge gear than go back to having flattened rewards. Otherwise it's back to posting a 0 and being done.
  • Ikey
    42 posts Member
    The simple solution is to make the new pieces much harder to obtain for a while whilst the players that aren't hSTR ready catch up. It felt like a punishment for spending my time/money.
  • Jeric
    221 posts Member
    @CG_Carrie

    Like many here I was vocally concerned about how the raid rewards were originally communicated vs. how they were rolled out. I admit fully that I was a bit witty (well ... snarky) in some of my posts over the matter. I was not expecting a complete rollback while you reviewed your intent and how to better reach the goal of preventing an unsurmountable gap between players who support the game financially and those who support the game through helping to build and fill the various vibrant communities and guilds. I have to say your decision today is a pleasant surprise. I will fully admit I was wrong when I suspected we would receive a PR laden announcement that complaints and grievances would be met with you ultimately telling us to pound sand.

    I appreciate when I can eat crow a little when the ultimate resolution may be positive. Basically, thank you.
  • Maegor
    1214 posts Member
    My guilds are excited about the rollback. Thank you Carrie and the rest of the team for listening to our feedback!
  • I rarely give kudo to devs, and i means devs in any game. But kudos for seeing mistakes and acting on it. Youll never please everyone but from the uproar that was given with raid reward changes, id say the majority are happy now.
  • I’m confused. You are rolling back the rewards to the older content that caused all the complaining but suggested guilds do not end raids before the update where I assume we would get this slightly better option of rewards for a few days.
    I am also confused why internal CG references max level players that way. The only above 85 level entities in game are not player controlled.
  • CG_Carrie wrote: »
    Anyone who is level 85 gets the 2 pieces of gear regardless of which STR tier has been completed?
    Yes.

    Thanks Carrie, first time a dev answered one of my posts
  • I’m happy for the roll back but I can’t wrap my head around how that has to include the challenge gear too.
    Honestly that’s all we wanted in the first place was to have the useless challenge gear removed from the raids. Just seems like we are back to square one only to revisit the problem in a couple weeks. @CG_Carrie why can’t you guys roll back to what it was then just take out the challenge gear
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