What Does it Say About the Meta if....
Your tanks are the last ones to die in arena?
Does it mean that the meta (which changes every six weeks) is over-powered?
Or does it mean that what you might consider to be a tank is useless?
Does it mean that the meta (which changes every six weeks) is over-powered?
Or does it mean that what you might consider to be a tank is useless?
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Don't use a tank then? I still use Rex/Wampa/Talzin/Nihilus and Thrawn against the supposed meta and don't have any trouble.
It just depends on what kind of tank you are running, what your team composition is and against what team you are going against. When Sion came out he was the last to die and would take out 3 toons by himself.
Zaalbar, Old Ben, Sion, Sith Trooper and Bossk taunts are a step in the right direction, but others can usually just be ignored.
Run without any support, you might hold.
Run without a tank, you will NEVER hold.
IMO tanks are the most important. Have been for quite some time now. ;D
Tanks are like thrawn. Underrated, but the most useful nevertheless.
The most absurd one is Teebo - a tank with stealth.
Teebo plays by his own rules.
Team: "Oh, good thing you are with us, Teebo. We really could use a tank."
Teebo: "I hide."
Team: "But you are a tank, you are supposed to let us hide behind you!"
Teebo: "Nah, I hide."
But when he hides he removes turn meter. I like that.
Nobody puts Teebo in the corner
Hahahahhahahahhaha....bravo
Love this
You guys pay attention?! :0 I thought you guys never posted.
same for ShoreTrooper.
another type of tanks that are currently useful is the tanks that do more. Sion is great example. he bring lot of synergy to the trio, and he also dealing huge a,mount of damage. sure, the big thing about him, after all, is his tankiness and high defense, but he bring something more.
KRU for example, also bring something more. besides the auto-taunt he provide like SithTrooper or shoreTrooper to defend from the isolate, he bring something more. first, he bring more assurances that he will eat the isolate. if, for example, nest/dn basic attack is dispelling him fast, he will probably counter attack and just put it right back. what old ben need a zeta for, kru can do on counter attack (but he also need the zeta for the autotaunt XD). also, if hes fast enough, he will use his first special and put taunt back on him. so his chance of eating that isolate is simply higher than SithTrooper. another thing he does, is his stun for 2 turns. he have some targets that he can stun for 2 turns and change the game completely - isolated Sith, thrawn, nest, wampa ... basically anyone besides Sith that isnt isolated (in the current meta). its pretty huge and there's even high chance for this to be very helpful on defense. and he can do this while hes isolated.
and on general thing : what is it say about the meta if the tanks are the last to die? that the meta requires creative solutions of how to bypass the tanks. REQUIRES. if you won't have tanks, your team will be very vulnerable for weak stuff that dont need the creative solution, and just go all-attack. and trust me, the "making you" use a tank to be top, is much better meta than just offense team.
Tanking just means having the ability to draw your opponent's attention and the hp (and, in this game, protection) to survive that attention. Taunting is one way of drawing attention, the other is punishing opponents who don't pay attention to you. B2 can't taunt, but it will absolutely punish anyone who ignores it in favor of your other characters. Zeb will keep debuffing your enemy and healing Phoenix allies every turn if he isn't handled. Rey can't taunt, but every time you ignore her she gets stronger and she'll just keep taking turn after turn. All three of these folks take forever to kill, too.
That said, there are definitely some tanks that need work... Plo Koon's ship is fantastic, but he--himself--just has a bunch of HP and nothing else going for him. Mace Windu can't taunt AND can't punish for ignoring.
But not all tanks need to taunt. In fact, some are better because of the soft taunt (ie: B2, who still gets that TM even if buff immune; albeit it gets nothing if dazed). But, as you said, there are definitely some bad ones out there that need something more
About time someone pointed out Thrawn's usefulness!
Love that statement. XD
Yeah, I started running two tanks thinking it would help me just like you've pointed out. It hasn't done a thing for me.... I run Yoda lead with zetas, and have been using GK and Old Ben (zeta) as a two-tank combo. It doesn't matter who I run in the other two slots, both tanks go down last. Occasionally, I can get my Nest or CLS to stay alive longer than one of them, but it's the exception not the norm.
Right now it's been Yoda, GK, Old Ben, Ezra, and Nest. For really good reasons, you would think either Ben, GK, or maybe even Nest would go down first... but I almost always lose Ezra first (75% of the time), then Yoda (25%). Without Ballista putting an early auto-taunt out there, it's just a speed mod game. Even with two tanks, my taunts mean nothing. One tank should be getting taunt every crit hit, the other putting taunt back on himself after losing it. Neither one does jack-shizzle. Total waste of gear and a Zeta for me until I can build something else around them.
Nope. You all are just that clueless.
5s of the ancient times?