So I'm experimenting with tank solo teams and I'm noticing that, against grievous, on the last hit Jyns truncheon strike doesn't work like Luke's use the force ability. Luke's will deal the damage, give grievous 100% tm, and then remove all the tm before grievous is able to take his turn. The wording for the 2 abilities is pretty much the same in that order but jyns seems like it takes the tm BEFORE giving grievous 100% tm instead of right after like Luke's. Can someone explain why?
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Raid bosses earn 5% TM when they are damaged.
Jyn’s attack is stealing the enemies TM... so... Jyn steals it ‘then’ raid bosses gain 5% TM. Grand Master Yoda can remove 70% TM. But his TM removal also works before bosses earn 5% TM. Thrawn’s fracture is also same. Remove 50% TM then attack 4 times. So raid bosses earn 20%+5% TM after fractured.
However, CLS’s TM removal is working after Raid bosses earn 5% TM.
That’s when grievous gets 100% TM after 7 hits, CLS removes all the bonus TM with his ‘use the force’.
But I don’t know why..
Why CLS..?
His basic attack is too.
His TM removal functions are always working after raid bosses earn the 5% TM.
I don’t think anyone’s arguing that they *aren’t* built that way, I think he’s suggesting that they were built wrong based on the wording. A plain text description of the ability should more or less match what the ability actually does. There’s very little in the description that differentiates Jyn’s from CLS.
Would be nice if they did
Yeah. Maybe just put it in with kit release?
Or just use consistent wording that matches the order of operations?
Make it so that "deal damage and remove TM" means that damage is dealt then TM is removed and "remove TM and deal damage" means the opposite.
Doesn't seem too hard...
I mean, not really...it’s as easy as adding “then”s in where needed. The text should match the build as close as possible. Without looking into the actual build, how would you know that Jyn and CLS function any different?
I've only recently become aware that Yoda deals damage second. That could be one of those wording inconsistencies as he's an old character. I suppose it could be considered a bug. I think Thrawn could be WAI, as even though the dispell is intended to go before the Fracture debuff, I'm guessing they want Fracture to land before any on-damage effects. Even if so, it would still represent a bug in the wording.
That’s good insight and explains how we got where we are. Ideally they’d flip it back and add a step to check TM before a killing blow, but I think they should at least clarify the text.