Rancor stealth buff?

Perhaps I missed it in the notes, but it seems that rancor resists tmr a LOT more than it used to. I used to be able to keep clr through all four phases, now it gets resisted enough that he gets chomped up in phase two

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  • Jarvind
    3920 posts Member
    I assume you mean CLS - in which case I find him to be really hit or miss. Even with his innate 40% Potency and Tenacity Down on the big ugly, I hit stretches where he'll resist the turn meter reduction three or four times in a row.

    There's always a 15% chance to resist - you just hit a bad streak.
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  • Toss a potency cross on CLS and you wont have to worry about it.
  • Use other TM removers with CLS, I use Cls lead, r2, JTR, RAID Han, bb8. Between the stealth and illuminated destiny. The filthy beast never gets more than one turn..... ever......
  • TVF
    36518 posts Member
    Gama_Fox wrote: »
    Toss a potency cross on CLS and you wont have to worry about it.

    Tenacity down results in a flat 15% chance to resist regardless of potency.
    I need a new message here. https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • @TVF thank you! I grow tired of needing to post that every time someone says "potency cross on CLS"
  • Maybe try Ventress lead Nightsisters and hit the autoplay button?
  • Vendi1983 wrote: »
    @TVF thank you! I grow tired of needing to post that every time someone says "potency cross on CLS"

    So tenacity down will also add a 15% chance to resist? Surely then it would be better to not inflict it then just stack potency?
  • @hotdeaths No. A character's base chance to resist is 15% even with 0% tenacity. It's a mechanic hard-wired into each character. Nothing you can do about it. Tenacity Down essentially eliminates any tenacity that character has but they still have a chance to resist.
  • Boov
    604 posts Member
    hotdeaths wrote: »
    Vendi1983 wrote: »
    @TVF thank you! I grow tired of needing to post that every time someone says "potency cross on CLS"

    So tenacity down will also add a 15% chance to resist? Surely then it would be better to not inflict it then just stack potency?

    15% is the minimum chance to resist, regardless of potency/tenacity. Don't ask me why, it's just the way it works.
    There's no minimum chance to debuff though, so having 100% more tenacity than the attacker has potency will effectively make your character immune to (resistable) debuffs/TMR.
  • Tenacity Down debuff also cannot be resisted, so there's really not much point to give CLS a potency cross...
  • Except for arena or situations where people can cleanse repeatedly. For the HAAT and Pit it's completely unnecessary.
  • Cls raid han and bb8 auto
  • Huatimus wrote: »
    Tenacity Down debuff also cannot be resisted, so there's really not much point to give CLS a potency cross...

    ? Why do you say that? It's not listed in CLS's ability, and I've used "Use the Force" and had no Tenacity Down on the enemy .
  • TVF
    36518 posts Member
    edited December 2018
    It's not listed but tenacity down cannot be resisted.

    Need a screenshot/video showing it being resisted. I've never had that happen. Try it against a Bastila lead. Always lands.
    I need a new message here. https://discord.gg/AmStGTH
  • Vendi1983
    5017 posts Member
    edited December 2018
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    Every character that applies tenacity down has the same blue bar in their mechanic.

    Only way it isn't applying is if the attack itself is evaded.
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