Community Territory Wars Poll Results [MEGA]

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  • Laughing at a handful on here who think this is not a big deal and to give it a try. Here's the main issues that I have with this horrible idea:

    1. People spend time and money getting their toons up- to have them suddenly banned by way of a voting system that makes Florida's look well run is a disgrace. This shows they have no regard for any monetary investment by the players.

    2. This opens up the possibility for them to remove characters from future events

    3. Their claim that "We asked for this"

    4. TW is the only guild vs guild format- there are a ton of ways to occasionally spruce it up if they deem necessary, forbidding the use of toons is the least intelligent of them.

    5. Anyone who is a guild leader or officer now has to spend more time trying to come up with a brand new defense strategy and try and beg/motivate the guild to participate in the dumbest TW ever created.

    And convince people to spend credits remodding toons , only to remod them again after, its just a huge cluster

    Don't forget about the sense of pride and acomplishment... That in itself, is worthy alone for horrible idea + new efforts in order to win.
  • Suprème_Lèader_Tsao
    116 posts Member
    edited January 11
    I’m inclined to try it and see if it’s any fun before rendering a final verdict.

    Think about this: What if we did an all-Scoundrel TW where every Scoundrel had a 50% chance of hitting an enemy that they weren’t targeting, simulating that they’ve spent a bit too much time partaking in the Cantina.

    Call it “Cantina Dispute” or “Bar Room Brawl.” That could be kind of fun, and it’s kind of doing the same thing—not just restricting the roster but also giving all the toons a potentially crippling debuff.

    The point is: Mixing things up is good because stale is bad. People were initially referring to GA as “Whale Arena,” but now a lot of people like it. Not every idea will be a winner, but I like that they’re trying new stuff.
  • I’m inclined to try it and see if it’s any fun before rendering a final verdict.

    Think about this: What if we did a on all-Scoundrel TW where every Scoundrel had a 50% chance of hitting an enemy that they weren’t targeting, simulating that they’ve spent a bit too much time partaking in the Cantina.

    Call it “Cantina Dispute” or “Bar Room Brawl.” That could be kind of fun, and it’s kind of doing the same thing—not just restricting the roster but also giving all the toons a potentially crippling debuff.

    The point is: Mixing things up is good because stale is bad. People were calling GA “Whale Arena,” but now a lot of people like it. Not every idea will be a winner, but I like that they’re trying.

    Not the same as removing part of your roster. Nice try CG
  • And thanks for adding to the post count
  • The rest of star wars is in a pr nightmare and everyone is upset with them. Maybe the CG crew felt left out and wanted to join in? As it is they found out it is impossible to make everyone happy but pi$$ing everyone off is real easy.
  • Apache75
    18 posts Member
    edited January 11
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  • SoonerJBD wrote: »
    CG silence does not mean CG isn't listening. Perhaps they just aren't ready to comment. But the devs have on numerous occasions on these forums and on other public places expressed their love of the game and of SW in general. This is not just a business for many of them; it's also their passion. SW has brought us all together, introducing people to others from all across the world. It's truly amazing to see! I believe CG is made of up regular people like Sven, and many others who are behind the scenes, and they all really do want to meet the expectations of the community, keep the game fresh and exciting, and innovate in fun ways.

    I understand the responses many have made regarding the TW 'ban' on premium toons. You paid or invested lots of time and energy, for toons and now can't use them. Or the inconvenience of mod switching from banned toons to viable ones. Or the disparate impact to gamers with smaller rosters. I only want to encourage you to be positive and upbeat, but continue to express your opinions, and if possible remain civilized. Don't feel that you are not being heard, because you are. Their are thousands and thousands of views on these threads, and I would bet RL money that a lot of those views are from CG/EA staffers, from top to bottom.

    I’m disinclined to give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. I don’t believe them when they say they play the game too or spend their own money on it. I think it is a lie. Because I simply can’t believe that anyone who plays this game seriously or cares about it beyond simply a paycheck would make this decision. Further, the messaging that says “this is what the community wanted,” is flat insulting. If they paid attention to our feedback or cared in the slightest, they would not say that. They care insofar as it helps them keep their jobs. That’s it.

    So they misunderstood our community. O well, this can happen. Onward and forward. At this point I'm going to wait and let CG team come to terms with the communities response. I understand you're passionate about the game, and that's great. It really is.
    what an ugly thing to say... does this mean we're not friends anymore?
  • Gryf
    95 posts Member
    I know I definitely won't remod anyone for this TW. Some of my best squads are now crippled, so I'll just set some D and collect whatever rewards I get
  • Shantaram
    31 posts Member
    edited January 12
    What really gets me about the feckless and, presumably, largely incompetent team that have driven this change without any consultation with, prior warning to, or addressing of the concerns of the community is how they continue to post elsewhere about things that are really quite inconsequential in comparison to this cluster "kitten" instead of making a statement (put it in a developer's only thread so there's no right to reply if you must) that directly addresses everyone's concerns.

    Had they done this, had their help desk not refused to take a complaint or discuss processing a "kitten" then I wouldn't be having discussions with a specialist representative at "kitten" in order to gain a full "kitten" for the last 6 months before reporting their "kitten" to the appropriate people.

    It's just not the "kitten" way to run any kind of community based game or business you "kittens"!

    p.s I like this kitten, thing, btw....a cursory glance at them, makes me think it helps keeps things within the rules! Thanks to whoever had that idea!
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  • Gee this debacle rates right up there with SWG's NGE. They both resulted in fracturing the players confidence. Still, it was a teaching lesson. I mean, we have learned, an awful lot. Trust, well that was a casualty to be sure. But it's not all bad, when you learn you grow. And knowing is half the battle.
    Leader: Grey Area 51 - My Squads: https://swgoh.gg/p/716522998/
  • Silent1018 wrote: »
    SoonerJBD wrote: »
    CG silence does not mean CG isn't listening. Perhaps they just aren't ready to comment. But the devs have on numerous occasions on these forums and on other public places expressed their love of the game and of SW in general. This is not just a business for many of them; it's also their passion. SW has brought us all together, introducing people to others from all across the world. It's truly amazing to see! I believe CG is made of up regular people like Sven, and many others who are behind the scenes, and they all really do want to meet the expectations of the community, keep the game fresh and exciting, and innovate in fun ways.

    I understand the responses many have made regarding the TW 'ban' on premium toons. You paid or invested lots of time and energy, for toons and now can't use them. Or the inconvenience of mod switching from banned toons to viable ones. Or the disparate impact to gamers with smaller rosters. I only want to encourage you to be positive and upbeat, but continue to express your opinions, and if possible remain civilized. Don't feel that you are not being heard, because you are. Their are thousands and thousands of views on these threads, and I would bet RL money that a lot of those views are from CG/EA staffers, from top to bottom.

    I’m disinclined to give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. I don’t believe them when they say they play the game too or spend their own money on it. I think it is a lie. Because I simply can’t believe that anyone who plays this game seriously or cares about it beyond simply a paycheck would make this decision. Further, the messaging that says “this is what the community wanted,” is flat insulting. If they paid attention to our feedback or cared in the slightest, they would not say that. They care insofar as it helps them keep their jobs. That’s it.

    So they misunderstood our community. O well, this can happen. Onward and forward. At this point I'm going to wait and let CG team come to terms with the communities response. I understand you're passionate about the game, and that's great. It really is.

    They didn’t misunderstand the community, they blatantly ignored. There is a whole other thread with over 60 pages of negative feedback. They then proceeded to follow through with it, and are now playing coward and not responding.

    Things don't just happen on a dime. If you have unrealistic expectations, yes you'll find a way to be disappointed. I see beyond your jockeying internet reflexsive comments. I see you and a lot of other people who enjoy this game, from players like you, to developers at CG in Sacramento. I choose to see the positive in these responses here. And I respond even though I hold little hope you will choose to see it my way. I respond knowing it's very likely you'll up the ante and place even larger grander ideas dreaming up even darker motives. The little hope I have is still more than enough to keep on. I chose to see you as a passionate person who loves SW like many others here, including those you seem to hold in disdain at CG. We're actually not all that different, all of us. And I think if we all got together and had a conversation over a beer we'd get along just fine.
    what an ugly thing to say... does this mean we're not friends anymore?
  • All this is based on a lack of communication.
    Adding clarity on the plans for upcomming TWs would have definately helped.
  • One idea of many poss solutions.
    Game has to be unfair and random for possibility of title of general built into game.
    As aussie guild, we run twars somewhere between english style military, and a cricket commentary, calling out jolly good kills. Some twars are 'edge of ur seat exciting'
    I dont care who just went gear 10 in guild, only who, how slogged that gold NS, and can guild watch a repeat of that match.
  • Can we watch battles live?
  • All this is based on a lack of communication.
    Adding clarity on the plans for upcomming TWs would have definately helped.

    No snark intended, but it is not in EA's makeup to be forth coming. They neither want or require our input, approval, or advice. We can play or go away. Either way they will not change, not one little bit.

    I know not a response to my post, but I'll give a quick response to yours. If what you say is true, there's no need for a forum I guess. But I see we do have a forum. I wonder what that could mean? Do you have any ideas why a forum is maintained?
    what an ugly thing to say... does this mean we're not friends anymore?
  • All this is based on a lack of communication.
    Adding clarity on the plans for upcomming TWs would have definately helped.

    No snark intended, but it is not in EA's makeup to be forth coming. They neither want or require our input, approval, or advice. We can play or go away. Either way they will not change, not one little bit.

    I know not a response to my post, but I'll give a quick response to yours. If what you say is true, there's no need for a forum I guess. But I see we do have a forum. I wonder what that could mean? Do you have any ideas why a forum is maintained?

    To follow that thought:
    You know how much stuff (esp. Star Wars stuff) I bought I just never use? :)
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    Wouldn't have happened, if you had put in more effort into finding a solution for zFinn/C-3PO interactions instead of spending useless resources into this soon to fail TW.

    I can't believe there are still positive review in the apps/play store recently. Are they the infamous phantom reviwers? Is this where the money is going into?
  • Not seeing any positive feedback anywhere. This along with the continuous money grab releases is ruining the game. Just think how some of the older toons have become completely irrelevant but instead of Re works we get 3 or 4 new marque events a month. Sad to a fun game start to fade out.
  • While I am not overly excited for that TW concept, I'll never understand how so many people (not only here, but as an internet phenomenon in general) willingly put so much energy into unconstructive hating. Hand in hand with it goes the situation that people who refuse to share the hate, will be hated, too. Guess that's just part of human nature... I'm rather part of the "let's give it a try and put judgements afterwards, not before"-type of players. Of course it's a little disappointing that I won't be able to use my freshly zeta'd Jolee in my Jedi team, but it's a one-time-only thing so far, with same conditions for everyone.
    Laughing at a handful on here who think this is not a big deal and to give it a try. Here's the main issues that I have with this horrible idea:

    5. Anyone who is a guild leader or officer now has to spend more time trying to come up with a brand new defense strategy and try and beg/motivate the guild to participate in the dumbest TW ever created.

    Not only participate but move mods as well. I mean, we are talking about 20 toons I believe, most of which people had modded, and some of which have premier mods. Are we suppose to remod and entire roster each TW? And are we suppose to expect a guild to do that?

    I can't think of a way to demotivate people for even more participation than having to remod every TW.
    Actually I didn't plan to comment in such a mega thread at all, but that argument about mods has been brought up a couple of times before and I just don't get it. I mean... if someone has a character like Revan (e.g.) , he/she will most likely use him in Arena and other game modes, and not only geared him for TWs. So why would you remove mods from a viable character, only because you can't use him in one TW? And even if characters are not in the Arena squad, it's not worth the effort of switching mods and burning a bunch of credits. In general, people who overly switch their mods around and count their GP everyday, make the game more complicated than it actually is and put more stress on themselves than necessary. If really as many guilds won't seriously participate in the coming TW as people have stated here to boycott it, my guild would actually have an easy time with such an opponent! B)
  • Vdr
    14 posts Member
    QefTserCal wrote: »
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    Wouldn't have happened, if you had put in more effort into finding a solution for zFinn/C-3PO interactions instead of spending useless resources into this soon to fail TW.

    I don’t think they will “improve” their fix. As the message implies they will nerf ZFinn instead of adding tenacity up on a toppled Traya.

    But as people are already angry they are just delaying the “fix”.
  • Not seeing any positive feedback anywhere. This along with the continuous money grab releases is ruining the game. Just think how some of the older toons have become completely irrelevant but instead of Re works we get 3 or 4 new marque events a month. Sad to a fun game start to fade out.

    There's plenty of positive feedback, it's just massively outnumbered
  • It’s funny how so many people say CG devs community managers don’t listen. They dropped the originally planned 28 banned toons to only 20. They also received enough positive feedback in the beta program to think this was a good idea. People move mods for every TW. People also move mods for raids so using that excuse as a reason why this is a bad idea is silly. Removing toons from TW was always in the plans. When they introduced TW they talked about having “platoons” which is the exact same thing removing toons from Off/Def teams. I’m the TW leader for my guild. It took me all of 5 minutes to figure out new teams.
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