I did not read pages 2-6 just first page so far but the refund requests are insane...the TM swing for the resistance team is now 40% instead of 35.... stacking damage make is so you get more than 25k damage in sith raid with a B team.... So it kills 3p0 cheese.... far as old school resistance.... kit sounds better.. only problem i see is with finn tanking so much I hope that defense helps cause he's squishy
You always do the hardest. They set up a scheme to stop Han Stormtropper in the Sith raid was just doing the same with Finn. Finn's rework PVE is ok, but you must return the zeta since they once again destroyed a major attack mechanic in PVP.
Zeta refunds should be given and the players should be allowed to reinvest it if they deem this new completely different kit worthy of their hard earned resources.
lol did you read through it? I hardly call that "destroyed"
Lol did you read through it? Or are you just an incompetent player with your foot in your mouth? Because he will NOT be able to kill Revan unless Finn automatically dispels tenacity up and prevents taunts. Even then not likely enough.
I did not read pages 2-6 just first page so far but the refund requests are insane...the TM swing for the resistance team is now 40% instead of 35.... stacking damage make is so you get more than 25k damage in sith raid with a B team.... So it kills 3p0 cheese.... far as old school resistance.... kit sounds better.. only problem i see is with finn tanking so much I hope that defense helps cause he's squishy
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But 25% of that is going through a potency/tenacity check which means that you are only getting 15% reliably. I don't care if the cheese goes away, but at least refund the zeta and let people make their own decisions, like they did with any other reworked zeta.
Zeta refunds should be given and the players should be allowed to reinvest it if they deem this new completely different kit worthy of their hard earned resources.
NOTHING really changed except the 3po cheese........ would love to see number of ppl who just zeta'd him for 3p0..... wrong.... old finn zeta was still a GA or TW win against most teams...
sorry but as long as TM swing in PVP stayed the same...which it did it's BETTER..... i see no issue with this...
I did not read pages 2-6 just first page so far but the refund requests are insane...the TM swing for the resistance team is now 40% instead of 35.... stacking damage make is so you get more than 25k damage in sith raid with a B team.... So it kills 3p0 cheese.... far as old school resistance.... kit sounds better.. only problem i see is with finn tanking so much I hope that defense helps cause he's squishy
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But 25% of that is going through a potency/tenacity check which means that you are only getting 15% reliably. I don't care if the cheese goes away, but at least refund the zeta and let people make their own decisions, like they did with any other reworked zeta.
I don't even care about the raids. zFinn could beat Revan, and now he can't. Plain and simple.
I did not read pages 2-6 just first page so far but the refund requests are insane...the TM swing for the resistance team is now 40% instead of 35.... stacking damage make is so you get more than 25k damage in sith raid with a B team.... So it kills 3p0 cheese.... far as old school resistance.... kit sounds better.. only problem i see is with finn tanking so much I hope that defense helps cause he's squishy
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Are you actually that stupid, or are you trolling? How do you think anyone gets 40%? It is 15%. Learn to read. 15% max gain, 25% max reduction. This neuters zFinn against Revan, and that's all that I care about.
Zeta refunds should be given and the players should be allowed to reinvest it if they deem this new completely different kit worthy of their hard earned resources.
NOTHING really changed except the 3po cheese........ would love to see number of ppl who just zeta'd him for 3p0..... wrong.... old finn zeta was still a GA or TW win against most teams...
sorry but as long as TM swing in PVP stayed the same...which it did it's BETTER..... i see no issue with this...
I don't have 3po in defense yet
No dude, instead of 35% tm gain it is now 3% per resistance ally. This will cripple its viability against first order, which was the reason many ppl zeta'd him. Not everyone did it for the c3p0 loop thing.
Zeta refunds should be given and the players should be allowed to reinvest it if they deem this new completely different kit worthy of their hard earned resources.
NOTHING really changed except the 3po cheese........ would love to see number of ppl who just zeta'd him for 3p0..... wrong.... old finn zeta was still a GA or TW win against most teams...
sorry but as long as TM swing in PVP stayed the same...which it did it's BETTER..... i see no issue with this...
I don't have 3po in defense yet
No dude, instead of 35% tm gain it is now 3% per resistance ally. This will cripple its viability against first order, which was the reason many ppl zeta'd him. Not everyone did it for the c3p0 loop thing.
I did not read pages 2-6 just first page so far but the refund requests are insane...the TM swing for the resistance team is now 40% instead of 35.... stacking damage make is so you get more than 25k damage in sith raid with a B team.... So it kills 3p0 cheese.... far as old school resistance.... kit sounds better.. only problem i see is with finn tanking so much I hope that defense helps cause he's squishy
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@Dk_rek 40% swing versus a single target instead of the whole team, and 25% of that is now resistable and goes through tenacity check.
Zeta refunds should be given and the players should be allowed to reinvest it if they deem this new completely different kit worthy of their hard earned resources.
NOTHING really changed except the 3po cheese........ would love to see number of ppl who just zeta'd him for 3p0..... wrong.... old finn zeta was still a GA or TW win against most teams...
sorry but as long as TM swing in PVP stayed the same...which it did it's BETTER..... i see no issue with this...
I don't have 3po in defense yet
No dude, instead of 35% tm gain it is now 3% per resistance ally. This will cripple its viability against first order, which was the reason many ppl zeta'd him. Not everyone did it for the c3p0 loop thing.
you gain 15 THEY LOSE 25 IT'S A 40 PERCENT SWING
No. You gain 15, one of them loses 25 maybe. Potency/tenacity check will block it most of the time.
I doubt they can keep up with a kru team with that low gain
Garbage change on his leadership. This Can only have been because of the counter to revan, as the year old (tedious) p3 raid had much simpler options for a fix.
The fact that you guys had previously posted this was fine in other areas of the game is a real big finger to your player base.
And for all those harping on about the changes being good in referance to the ramping damage. Great but I don’t need his leadership zetaed for it. And will only work in lower raids where he and his team, can be kept alive. We already have wampa and young han, that can do it as solo toons, so it’s hardly exciting.
They basically killed a multiple meta counter. Whoopie to 5 min timeout mirror fights right?
A zeta refund is only fair.
Changing a product or service without offering some type of refund is just simply unethical. This really should have been considered
Hahaha. Unethical.
It is a game, and they changed one minor element of it. If they introduce a new character that is better than the one you just geared up and made him useless with the introduction, is that unethical?
You need perspective. If that is the most "unethical" thing to happen to you, congratulations.
Never said it was the most unethical to happen to me. It is a game, and in fact minor. However, none of this changes the facts
Zeta refunds should be given and the players should be allowed to reinvest it if they deem this new completely different kit worthy of their hard earned resources.
NOTHING really changed except the 3po cheese........ would love to see number of ppl who just zeta'd him for 3p0..... wrong.... old finn zeta was still a GA or TW win against most teams...
sorry but as long as TM swing in PVP stayed the same...which it did it's BETTER..... i see no issue with this...
I don't have 3po in defense yet
No dude, instead of 35% tm gain it is now 3% per resistance ally. This will cripple its viability against first order, which was the reason many ppl zeta'd him. Not everyone did it for the c3p0 loop thing.
you gain 15 THEY LOSE 25 IT'S A 40 PERCENT SWING
No. You gain 15, one of them loses 25 maybe. Potency/tenacity check will block it most of the time.
I doubt they can keep up with a kru team with that low gain
This.
Here’s the important part you’re missing from the kit Dk:
the target enemy loses 5% Turn Meter for each Resistance ally.
@CG_Carrie I, like most people here it seems, have had Finn zeta'd for well over a year at this point so I didn't just give him the zeta because of a raid cheese. You've changed the entire character and it should be up to us to determine if we want to continue to invest rare materials in something that is a completely different thing. I know you'll never see this, or care about it if you do, but you're making the wrong call by not offering the refund to the people that want it
Zeta refunds should be given and the players should be allowed to reinvest it if they deem this new completely different kit worthy of their hard earned resources.
NOTHING really changed except the 3po cheese........ would love to see number of ppl who just zeta'd him for 3p0..... wrong.... old finn zeta was still a GA or TW win against most teams...
sorry but as long as TM swing in PVP stayed the same...which it did it's BETTER..... i see no issue with this...
I don't have 3po in defense yet
No dude, instead of 35% tm gain it is now 3% per resistance ally. This will cripple its viability against first order, which was the reason many ppl zeta'd him. Not everyone did it for the c3p0 loop thing.
you gain 15 THEY LOSE 25 IT'S A 40 PERCENT SWING
No. You gain 15, one of them loses 25 maybe. Potency/tenacity check will block it most of the time.
I doubt they can keep up with a kru team with that low gain
no but with finns stacking damage you won't have to keep hitting someone else till troopers special ready to hit KRU
you should still be able to keep a train going as long as your targeting different units with the exposes.... like post says might not be AS easy but it's still there as always potency and tenacity is still the main thing....
Zeta refunds should be given and the players should be allowed to reinvest it if they deem this new completely different kit worthy of their hard earned resources.
NOTHING really changed except the 3po cheese........ would love to see number of ppl who just zeta'd him for 3p0..... wrong.... old finn zeta was still a GA or TW win against most teams...
sorry but as long as TM swing in PVP stayed the same...which it did it's BETTER..... i see no issue with this...
I don't have 3po in defense yet
No dude, instead of 35% tm gain it is now 3% per resistance ally. This will cripple its viability against first order, which was the reason many ppl zeta'd him. Not everyone did it for the c3p0 loop thing.
you gain 15 THEY LOSE 25 IT'S A 40 PERCENT SWING
No. You gain 15, one of them loses 25 maybe. Potency/tenacity check will block it most of the time.
I doubt they can keep up with a kru team with that low gain
no but with finns stacking damage you won't have to keep hitting someone else till troopers special ready to hit KRU
you should still be able to keep a train going as long as your targeting different units with the exposes.... like post says might not be AS easy but it's still there as always potency and tenacity is still the main thing....
except poor revan cheese people.... gg
He’s a slow toon that has had TM gain nerfed and has a taunt function directing debuffs and TM reduction at him. He’s not gonna take many turns against anything worth a dam.
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chewbacca chex mix does 2-3.5 million damage x 50.....uhh p3 with just one team
Lol did you read through it? Or are you just an incompetent player with your foot in your mouth? Because he will NOT be able to kill Revan unless Finn automatically dispels tenacity up and prevents taunts. Even then not likely enough.
But 25% of that is going through a potency/tenacity check which means that you are only getting 15% reliably. I don't care if the cheese goes away, but at least refund the zeta and let people make their own decisions, like they did with any other reworked zeta.
NOTHING really changed except the 3po cheese........ would love to see number of ppl who just zeta'd him for 3p0..... wrong.... old finn zeta was still a GA or TW win against most teams...
sorry but as long as TM swing in PVP stayed the same...which it did it's BETTER..... i see no issue with this...
I don't have 3po in defense yet
I don't even care about the raids. zFinn could beat Revan, and now he can't. Plain and simple.
Are you actually that stupid, or are you trolling? How do you think anyone gets 40%? It is 15%. Learn to read. 15% max gain, 25% max reduction. This neuters zFinn against Revan, and that's all that I care about.
No dude, instead of 35% tm gain it is now 3% per resistance ally. This will cripple its viability against first order, which was the reason many ppl zeta'd him. Not everyone did it for the c3p0 loop thing.
Only the targeted enemy loses TM.
@Dk_rek 40% swing versus a single target instead of the whole team, and 25% of that is now resistable and goes through tenacity check.
No. You gain 15, one of them loses 25 maybe. Potency/tenacity check will block it most of the time.
I doubt they can keep up with a kru team with that low gain
Here’s the feedback: Refund the zeta. @CG_Carrie
The fact that you guys had previously posted this was fine in other areas of the game is a real big finger to your player base.
And for all those harping on about the changes being good in referance to the ramping damage. Great but I don’t need his leadership zetaed for it. And will only work in lower raids where he and his team, can be kept alive. We already have wampa and young han, that can do it as solo toons, so it’s hardly exciting.
They basically killed a multiple meta counter. Whoopie to 5 min timeout mirror fights right?
A zeta refund is only fair.
Never said it was the most unethical to happen to me. It is a game, and in fact minor. However, none of this changes the facts
This.
Here’s the important part you’re missing from the kit Dk:
no but with finns stacking damage you won't have to keep hitting someone else till troopers special ready to hit KRU
you should still be able to keep a train going as long as your targeting different units with the exposes.... like post says might not be AS easy but it's still there as always potency and tenacity is still the main thing....
except poor revan cheese people.... gg
He’s a slow toon that has had TM gain nerfed and has a taunt function directing debuffs and TM reduction at him. He’s not gonna take many turns against anything worth a dam.