Probably Should Nerf the Interaction Between Plague and Shock/Healing Immunity
If you haven't heard the news, some of the testing with Darth Revan has revealed an insanely powerful team. I'm as glad as the next guy that it beats Jedi Knight Revan, but at the same time, the mirror matches basically come down to who is fastest to get both shocked and plague on the field, which means there is no solution without better speed. Most of the other current metas can be beaten with slower speed mods if you are either lucky or smarter than the AI.
The video goes over the interaction here:
https://youtu.be/-ApGufNgvTc
But yeah, I think that this interaction is not healthy for the game. Possibly would be helpful if shock and plague can't coexist at the same time (plague dispels shock and/healing immunity)
The video goes over the interaction here:
https://youtu.be/-ApGufNgvTcBut yeah, I think that this interaction is not healthy for the game. Possibly would be helpful if shock and plague can't coexist at the same time (plague dispels shock and/healing immunity)
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And the nerf shouldn't go to their kits, but the interaction between the two debuffs. I suggested that plague dispels shock or healing immunity, you can suggest another way to fix it.
We never had a character that could aoe shock, so that makes it difficult to get through.
What changed with that?
If you are just learning that speed kills then you are a bit late.
But as far as the interaction - run Sith Assasin on your team and you are faster. If he is also running Assasin and you can't outspeed his, that is WAI.
Same works for taking down thrawn first in the other setup.
Talzin rezzezes from Zombie. Have to get fear on Talzin first I think.
What he said.
As I said before, there are plenty of mirror matches in the game where speed isn't the only determining factor. When the speed is the absolute only determining factor (like when there was the resistance meta and whichever Poe was faster won no matter what.)
yeah, i see that now. still might help hold off the plague with the CD increase
Yep. I forgot about that.
Going to be an interesting few days as the community group-think/break kicks in.
yeah, this is the most fun time in the game. I love the experimentation.
Never! What fun are things without predictions of DOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!?
Nerfing talzin is not the answer, dont hurt the underdogs that didnt buy either Revan.
I'm convinced with my higher speed mods & leader bonus I could probably take out this lineup running my Assaj lead. Its not game breaking, its cookiecutter-bought-my-arena-rank meta breaking. I thoroughly enjoyed watching JKR get used as a mop and jolee get wiped every time. A far cry from my NS gangbanging Jolee for 3 minutes on AI only to have his protection higher than before from redline.
JKR users how does it feel to be the underdog after 6 months of 80% arena control?
As soon as non old republic Jedi can not gain any bonuses from old republic characters. Boom fixed.
No, stop. That makes too much sense. CG has never fixed anything the easy and simple way.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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DR attacks leader with insanity and inflicts fear on everyone. When fear expires, dispels all buffs. Tenacity down from HK, Plague, Shock, Fear/Stagger from BSF = GG.
I like the idea, but I thought of a different solution, because shock at least has a lot of good uses outside of preventing healing. Maybe add a clause to plague where "healing cannot be prevented when inflicted with plague". That way you would still keep the other debuffs after you heal back up to full health, but stop this interaction.
Now we have some options when being slower.
Follow up with: Change tenacity up to be just that (instead of immunity). Implement diminish returns on debuffs. Possibly even on buffs.
Now we have removed a lot of loops and permanent stun locks. All that's left to look at is loops due to resists which might be a mechanic that also needs to go for a healthy game.
So, really, back to the drawing board.
The drevan team is well moded and fast, but not yet fully zetaed (missing one hk47 Zeta, which shouldn't make a big difference so)...
I imagine this prob wouldn't work if DR was faster than JKR?
Jkr is not healthy for the game and never nerfed :
He can kill in one or turn one character of opponent team with direct focus and yoda damage! direct focus don't start party with cooldown on ability who can kill in one turn of other character => nihilus and hk